Do you have a source for that?

I don't think it's true: all bonuses (signing, performance-based, etc.) become part of the "Players' Share" and are part of the 50% split - which means that the signing bonuses are subject to the escrow.

At least that's how I read the CBA (which gives me a headache, so I may be wrong).

It also doesn't make sense that bonuses wouldn't be included - they are part of player compensation, they are subject to the cap, averaged over the life of the contract....
- StLBravesFan

i think i got if from here a while back. which has been updated to say bonuses are subject to escrow. so you're correct.

https://spectorshockey.ne...oopholes-in-the-nhls-cba/

You are right in that it is still part of the player's share, but I think the League isn't subtracting the dollars off that part to go into the escrow pool of money. I think all it means in the end is that the league is holding onto less of the dollars until the time they pay back the remaining when the season is over. The players still get the same money but it is a difference as to how much is held in terms of real dollars vs what they get back from escrow.
- breadbag

Was curios, so I looked it up, signing bonuses pay into escrow. Covered in 50.2c of the CBA.

Zawaski with a HARD never going to happen re: E Kane
- mrpaulish

Its probably happening then...

Me too, Rick. Every time I see him in the lineup he's paired with Buff. Smooth skater, head up, will hit and blocks shots and covers for Buff. ........ Thought this was a solid read concerning the Jets and Cheveldayoff: http://thehockeywriters.c...r.com&utm_campaign=buffer
- Mr Ricochet

Good read. I like watching the Jets play, lots of talent there.

But Chevy has to address his goaltending, playoffs are a longshot with what he has between the pipes.

Unless a center comes back my guess is if AA is traded they keep Kruger ad if they don't move AA they move Kruger. ..........Hawks can't go into the season with just 1 NHL experienced center especially with only 3 sure fire experienced Dmen.
- Mr Ricochet

I assume they would sign or acquire a C in part of their moves if they plan on moving both players.

Who is out there not named Nick Schmaltz who can play LW with AA and Kane? Im not seeing losing AA for Galcenyuk for example because you dont achieve the goal of fully rebuilding that top six.

Additionally, it would be nice to sign a bottom six center as well. If the forecheck is back and can play a fast north south game, I think you stick with the D as they stand and hope that center depth and two potent top lines can drive possession back out of the D zone.

@PierreVLeBrun

Justin Williams camp in the process of narrowing a long list of callers into a smaller group. All about the fit and chance to win.

Was curios, so I looked it up, signing bonuses pay into escrow. Covered in 50.2c of the CBA.
- Antilles

That may be the case. I've heard that the money wasn't subtracted, but I do know it still counts as the players share of the revenue either way. So at the end of the year, the players still earn the same dollars.

Was curios, so I looked it up, signing bonuses pay into escrow. Covered in 50.2c of the CBA.
- Antilles

Good stuff. Thanks for posting this.

AA + Krugs to MON for Danault + Gal. Who's with me?!

AA + Krugs to MON for Danault + Gal. Who's with me?!
- Assman22

I am but I doubt Mtl is..

Found this nice graph in a good article on panarin vs. Saad



The article is form the Columbus TheAthletic writer.

https://theathletic.com/70601/2017/06/26/70601/

AA + Krugs to MON for Danault + Gal. Who's with me?!
- Assman22

Montreal wouldn't do this. I'd do it every day and twice on Sunday

AA + Krugs to MON for Danault + Gal. Who's with me?!
- Assman22

What would you be eilling to add on the Hawks side ?

I assume they would sign or acquire a C in part of their moves if they plan on moving both players.
- breadbag

No doubt. You can't go in with only one NHL experienced centerman and I can't stress enough what only 3 experienced Dmen means to that equation. Your center is the most important player defensively after Dmen.

You are right in that it is still part of the player's share, but I think the League isn't subtracting the dollars off that part to go into the escrow pool of money. I think all it means in the end is that the league is holding onto less of the dollars until the time they pay back the remaining when the season is over. The players still get the same money but it is a difference as to how much is held in terms of real dollars vs what they get back from escrow.
- breadbag

My take would be that the league wouldn't want to "claw back" any money's from the players - it would be very difficult - get Toews/Kane, for instance, to write a large check to the league every June.

Vegas still has way too many defensemen. They need to move out more than Methot, and hopefully one of those names is the piece coming back from Vegas for Kruger after his bonus kicks in.
Guys Vegas won't move:
Theodore (the prize from ANA)
Schmidt (McPhee drafted him in WAS)
Engelland (Lives in Vegas)

That's 3 of the 7 spots that Vegas will use with Dmen. Some of the following will be moved:
Jon Merrill
Jason Garrison
Alexei Emelin
Brayden McNabb
Colin Miller
Griffin Reinhart
Luca Sbisa
Clayton Stoner



IMO Colin Miller is the best option, he was the fastest skater on the Bruins. If the Hawks are trying to get younger, faster, and guys who come from a decent system (Julien knows his stuff)... Miller checks all those boxes.

What would you be eilling to add on the Hawks side ?
- mrpaulish

Whatever is needed in order for Stan to reel in one Tom mothafuggin Wilson

What if Stan is quietly working on a move for Duchene?

Was curios, so I looked it up, signing bonuses pay into escrow. Covered in 50.2c of the CBA.
- Antilles

Didn't trust me, huh? Had to go to the source, huh?

Just like a Blues/Cardinals fan....

Vegas still has way too many defensemen. They need to move out more than Methot, and hopefully one of those names is the piece coming back from Vegas for Kruger after his bonus kicks in.
Guys Vegas won't move:
Theodore (the prize from ANA)
Schmidt (McPhee drafted him in WAS)
Engelland (Lives in Vegas)

That's 3 of the 7 spots that Vegas will use with Dmen. Some of the following will be moved:
Jon Merrill
Jason Garrison
Alexei Emelin
Brayden McNabb
Colin Miller
Griffin Reinhart
Luca Sbisa
Clayton Stoner



IMO Colin Miller is the best option, he was the fastest skater on the Bruins. If the Hawks are trying to get younger, faster, and guys who come from a decent system (Julien knows his stuff)... Miller checks all those boxes.
- ObeseOprah

Reported as trying to move Sbisa and Emelin. Pass on those 2, unless they retain 50% on Emelin.

Do you have a source for that?

I don't think it's true: all bonuses (signing, performance-based, etc.) become part of the "Players' Share" and are part of the 50% split - which means that the signing bonuses are subject to the escrow.

At least that's how I read the CBA (which gives me a headache, so I may be wrong).

It also doesn't make sense that bonuses wouldn't be included - they are part of player compensation, they are subject to the cap, averaged over the life of the contract....
- StLBravesFan

CBA article 50.11 (sub-paras e and f) of the NHL CBA indicates players actually do pay escrow on bonuses as well as their base salaries.

Good read. I like watching the Jets play, lots of talent there.

But Chevy has to address his goaltending, playoffs are a longshot with what he has between the pipes.
- RickJ

I guess that article helped me put into perspective why Chevy hasn't made moves to address that horrid goaltending the last few years. IMO the Jets are as loaded as any team in the league both at forward and defense as a whole. There is no reason this roster isn't making noise every playoffs... I think Maurice should be considered in the hottest seat of all NHL coaches but Chevy too, despite the roster he's put together, because of the goaltending.

I guess that article helped me put into perspective why Chevy hasn't made moves to address that horrid goaltending the last few years. IMO the Jets are as loaded as any team in the league both at forward and defense as a whole. There is no reason this roster isn't making noise every playoffs... I think Maurice should be considered in the hottest seat of all NHL coaches but Chevy too, despite the roster he's put together, because of the goaltending.
- Mr Ricochet

Have never liked Maurice as a Coach. The Jets are a very undisciplined team and have been for a long time - way too many stupid, cheap penalties.

Yes, thank you. Character is what will carry you over the top in tight games, especially in the playoffs.

Amazing the rationalization gymnastics people will go through to ignore KNOWN locker room and off-ice criminal issues simply because a guy has on-ice skill. His character is a huge red flag, at least to me. That McD would take that risk, given recent history, boggles my mind.

One incident like he was accused of/arrested for more than once in Buffalo in his last year, and kiss our season goodbye and the Hawks can kiss some more fans goodbye. Because this time, they went into it eyes wide open and said, essentially, "winning matters more than safety of the women in Chicago."
- pdx2ord

As you discuss Evander Kane please be objective and list his convictions. Anyone can say anything and this seems especially true in Buffalo. Also, whatever happened in Winnipeg also had strangeness attached to it. Winnipeg was dysfunctional for a period of time with a wacky Coach, as one problem. Additionally, it was odd that certain of the players attacking Evander Kane had their own problems. Buff for years came to Training Camp overweight.

I am not suggesting I watched loads of Buffalo games last year but I did watch some and Evander Kane seemed to play very hard all over the rink. He was certainly not the problem in Buffalo last year but was actually a bright spot. If, in fact, he is available, and the Hawks have interest, neither of which I necessarily believe he would be a good acquisition. Sort of flies in the face of the recent trend of acquiring players that are controlled with term but this may also affect what the Hawks have to give up to get him.