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JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
This gets old, please be better informed.

1 Cup, yes
2 Cups part of the equation
3 - smaller part

And while your doing your research name a team who's composition in the salary cap era was 100% of his doing. I will give you a hint - only 1 GM comes close - Ken Holland, and even he had players from the previous GM.

- riozzo

Not to mention Keith and Seabrook were not Tallon draft picks
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
My take would be that the league wouldn't want to "claw back" any money's from the players - it would be very difficult - get Toews/Kane, for instance, to write a large check to the league every June.
- StLBravesFan


Agreed, that is the whole reason for the escrow.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:52 PM ET
I expect the Hawks to sign Oduya or Campbell, and won't be surprised if it's both.
- Cmonalready


Oh I hope they don't. Big step in the wrong direction IMO.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:53 PM ET
Fair enough JR. Not expecting much, but can hope.
- kwolf68

Exactly.

Don't expect much from him.

I have seen him olay a few times last couple seasons.

He is nowhere as bad as Runblad. Smooth skater, poised, a tad slow skater for a swede in stereotype fashion, so to speak. Commits turnovers now and then used on powerplay because he has descent shot (not sure about the shot).

All Runblad had was a shot.

-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Thanks to Dale Tallon
- Goalie-33


If Tallon was/is such a genius then how do explain Tallon's track record in Florida? He had a top 3 overall draft pick 4 times. Missed playoffs 5 years. Eliminated in 1st round one year. Eliminated in 2nd round one year.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Fair enough JR. Not expecting much, but can hope.
- kwolf68

Exactly.

Don't expect much from him.

I have seen him olay a few times last couple seasons.

He is nowhere as bad as Runblad. Smooth skater, poised, a tad slow skater for a swede in stereotype fashion, so to speak. Commits turnovers now and then used on powerplay because he has descent shot (not sure about the shot).

All Runblad had was a shot.

powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
If Tallon was/is such a genius then how do explain Tallon's track record in Florida? He had a top 3 overall draft pick 4 times. Missed playoffs 5 years. Eliminated in 1st round one year. Eliminated in 2nd round one year.
- -Doh-


I think Dale will best be remembered for this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwuUzSZfQ4k
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
I think Dale will best be remembered for this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwuUzSZfQ4k

- powerenforcer


One of the best stifled laughs I've ever heard
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
I think Dale will best be remembered for this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwuUzSZfQ4k

- powerenforcer

I don't even have to click it. It's the wee knee joke, isn't it?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:07 PM ET
I think Dale will best be remembered for this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwuUzSZfQ4k

- powerenforcer


Nice Recollection!


The more I read the Tallon loveathon the more incensed I get. He was GM of sucky teams that drafted at the top of the draft. Toews was rated at 2 or 3 in any mock you can still find - SLAM Dunk pick at 3.

Same for Kaner - ranked # 1 in anything I can find.

So in recap, he was director of PP for 7 years preceding his GM role. He was GM for 2 years before drafting Kane and Toews. All I give him credit for is overseeing teams that were arguably real bad, and making 2 obvious choices in a draft. He was part of one, 1, uno playoff appearance in all those years and never finished over .500 other than that year.

He was a bad GM/DPP then, he is a bad GM now.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 4:07 PM ET
If Tallon was/is such a genius then how do explain Tallon's track record in Florida? He had a top 3 overall draft pick 4 times. Missed playoffs 5 years. Eliminated in 1st round one year. Eliminated in 2nd round one year.
- -Doh-

The correct review on Tallon is that he has some good marks and bad marks in his report card. John J has said so - right John.

Tallon is a very personable and opportunistic executive. Dudley was helpful to Tallon. Some fans say feel Tallon was railroaded out of town here. The facts are the facts. If you need evidence for any of his miscues, review each if his first round selections. He made the call, not Mark Kelly. Correct?!
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:08 PM ET
VERY curious development that StanBo did not prioritize signing Rasmussen. 6'4" Defense-First Center that has played PK and now has 2 years of NHL experience. This tells me that Bowman has deals or UFA Signings in place to address the lack of quality Center depth on this team, especially when Kruger is finally moved.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
I don't even have to click it. It's the wee knee joke, isn't it?
- JRoenick97


The silence after is gold.

You can hear them barley keeping it together.

Totally one of those situations where you can't laugh, so it makes it 100 times worse.
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 4:12 PM ET
VERY curious development that StanBo did not prioritize signing Rasmussen. 6'4" Defense-First Center that has played PK and now has 2 years of NHL experience. This tells me that Bowman has deals or UFA Signings in place to address the lack of quality Center depth on this team, especially when Kruger is finally moved.
- EnzoD



Or it could be he wanted more than Hawks are willing to pay- not signing at below QO as Jurco would/did.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Or it could be he wanted more than Hawks are willing to pay- not signing at below QO as Jurco would/did.
- Revco38


Certainly a possibility. However, since it is almost 99% guaranteed that Kruger is traded, Rasmussen would be the only NHL Regular Center besides Kero for Lines 3 + 4. There HAS to be a plan in place for Center if Rasumussen wasn't qualified. Moose couldnt be asking for much $$ given his limited NHL Production. Maybe StanBo has someone better in mind via trade or UFA....
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Or it could be he wanted more than Hawks are willing to pay- not signing at below QO as Jurco would/did.
- Revco38


Hines is reporting Rasmussen decline Hawks offer.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
Oh I hope they don't. Big step in the wrong direction IMO.
- breadbag

Campbell i can grumble and say, maybe he is passable in a diminished third pair role.

Oduya has not shown he is close to old form for at least two years. He would be paid too much coin and he is not worth the gamble. If both are resigned then I foresee both will not be good enough. Give a kid a shot. Better hope Murphy turns out ok. We have Samuelson here I REALLY EXPECT to help the kids and to demand no over reliance on stick checks. If both Campbell and Oduya then I expect first round failure, possibly a team barely makes playoffs. I would consider firing Stan.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
Hines is reporting Rasmussen decline Hawks offer.
- walleyeb1



Couldn't the Hawks still have extended the offer even if Rasmussen declined, just to keep his rights?

I like Moose as much as the next fan, and while he still could be re-signed it won't hurt that much to lose him.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
Certainly a possibility. However, since it is almost 99% guaranteed that Kruger is traded, Rasmussen would be the only NHL Regular Center besides Kero for Lines 3 + 4. There HAS to be a plan in place for Center if Rasumussen wasn't qualified. Moose couldnt be asking for much $$ given his limited NHL Production. Maybe StanBo has someone better in mind via trade or UFA....
- EnzoD


Just because they didn't Qualify him does not preclude them signing him in the future. It just makes him an UFA and means they will receive no compensation if he signs elsewhere.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
Certainly a possibility. However, since it is almost 99% guaranteed that Kruger is traded, Rasmussen would be the only NHL Regular Center besides Kero for Lines 3 + 4. There HAS to be a plan in place for Center if Rasumussen wasn't qualified. Moose couldnt be asking for much $$ given his limited NHL Production. Maybe StanBo has someone better in mind via trade or UFA....
- EnzoD



Maybe they really are that high on Daulphin?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:24 PM ET

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 4:25 PM ET
Couldn't the Hawks still have extended the offer even if Rasmussen declined, just to keep his rights?

I like Moose as much as the next fan, and while he still could be re-signed it won't hurt that much to lose him.

- DarthKane

Wasn't there a report that the team and Rassmussen were too far apart in salary negotiation?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 27 @ 4:25 PM ET
I just have to think that Bowman needs a back up plan or way out of any scenario where E Kane does not work out here. There is always ....maybe...the Huet sell dump off route? Bowman does not have extra money to use at a trade deadline and E Kane could lead to McDonough questioning this gamble. Can we just hope a newbie but not as physical as Kane sometimes can be - namely, DeBrincat, is a better option.
- jhawk59


I'm not arguing for Kane, but I have been told what the rationale is: one year left on his deal, playing for a new deal, has shown some recent signs of maturing . . . because he has what they want on the ice.

I have also heard the $$ are tricky so might not happen.

Not like they have to buy him out ever though because they could probably move him at the DL for a 7th round pick somewhere if they had to.

Team source told me last night they see Debrincat-Schmaltz-Kane as a disaster in the making as they'd gut pushed around like the Little Sisters of the Poor.

ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
Even if Alzner aboard the team may not win its opening round. Toews and Crawford need to be superstars in playoffs.

Where that leaves Queeneville and Bowman?

Wait until that time comes. I cannot fathom farther significant roster changes. But could Bowman have a rabbit up his sleeve - doubtful but possible.

DeBrincat, Sikura, Fortin is a reach but who knows whether they pop up next spring.

Bloom from a fresh petal may be brief for this team next spring.

- jhawk59




...I like it, but perhaps a bit too poetic for the buzz when considering the usual rancor.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
I dunno if he has Kruger's game.
This is a kid from midget on was relied upon to score, generate O, and not conentrate on being a defensive specialist.

https://www.draftsite.com...er/laurent-dauphin/19833/

- wiz1901


I won't disagree with this except he kills penalties and he is a high motor guy who wins pucks and pays bigger than his size (which is about the same size as Kruger, maybe an inch taller is all).
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