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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
Would you rather pay Jordan Weal $2.5M per year for 2-3 seasons or sign VDV for a one year contract with a clause in his contract that he must dress in all 82 games ?
- arichardson22



None.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
You just have to accept the fact that you will be cold. Doing winter activities otherwise you are basically a hermit. Skating, few smaller places to ski. Snowmobile, things like that.

Me and the girl are moving in, in August. Big step for nutter. Maybe moving provinces next year or after. She's wanting to. I'm down with that.

- flyer_nutter


Good luck with the move!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:18 PM ET
Funny thing is my name is actually Alex
- arichardson22

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:19 PM ET
Good luck with the move!
- BiggE


I've long thought about it, but a bigger move. I've had New Zealand and Australia nursing immigration forms printed out in my desk for 2+years.

Don't think she would come. Family and all. Weak.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:19 PM ET
I see your Bellinger and raise you my last round pick in my 12 team league, Aaron Judge.

ALL RISE, MOTHER(frank)ERS

- Giroux_Is_God

Ugh...I will tell you my Judge story. It is a tragedy
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Jordan Weal hasn't earned close to $2.5 mil a year and won't get that.......but if he does become a 30-40 point guy, he's worth more than that. We're paying Lehtera $4.7 mil to be a 4C potentially; Dale Weise $2.35 mil to be a 4W, so can't act like that's some exorbitant number for Weal who could outperform both. Hell he could put up similar production to Flip at $5 mil.

But for that price, add another mil+ and sign JWealliams
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
Ugh...I will tell you my Judge story. It is a tragedy
- YuenglingJagr

Oh no
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
I've long thought about it, but a bigger move. I've had New Zealand and Australia nursing immigration forms printed out in my desk for 2+years.

Don't think she would come. Family and all. Weak.

- flyer_nutter


You could always move out of America Junior and step into the big leagues.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
Jordan Weal hasn't earned close to $2.5 mil a year and won't get that.......but if he does become a 30-40 point guy, he's worth more than that. We're paying Lehtera $4.7 mil to be a 4C potentially; Dale Weise $2.35 mil to be a 4W, so can't act like that's some exorbitant number for Weal who could outperform both. Hell he could put up similar production to Flip at $5 mil.

But for that price, add another mil+ and sign JWealliams

- Mononoke


I only threw the $2.5M for joking purposes... I should have clarified in my initial comment.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
I'll take: I'd rather sandpaper my balls for a thousand, Alex.
- BiggE

You are on a roll!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
But for that price, add another mil+ and sign JWealliams
- Mononoke

They can certainly afford it
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
I only threw the $2.5M for joking purposes... I should have clarified in my initial comment.
- arichardson22


I know, it was more in response to the twisted, masochistic (frank)s who chose VandeVelde lol. If the question was $10 mil to Weal or VandeVelde wears a Flyers t-shirt one day 5 years from now, the answer is still Weal.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
I'll take: I'd rather sandpaper my balls for a thousand, Alex.
- BiggE

Speaking of...anyone catch Jeopardy last night? What an ending
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
I know, it was more in response to the twisted, masochistic (frank)s who chose VandeVelde lol. If the question was $10 mil to Weal or VandeVelde wears a Flyers t-shirt one day 5 years from now, the answer is still Weal.
- Mononoke


solid choice
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
They can certainly afford it
- YuenglingJagr


Gotta move Meat first. Don't know how much a goalie will cost. But, yeah, it's doable.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:08 PM ET
Gotta move Meat first. Don't know how much a goalie will cost. But, yeah, it's doable.
- Mononoke

They really don't have to. As long as they keep like 4 million for bonus I think they'll be fine.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:09 PM ET
hi.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
hi.
- hammarby31

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
I am not sure who is going to play defense for the Kings this year
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
I am not sure who is going to play defense for the Kings this year
- YuenglingJagr


I know a guy they could use. $1.25 mi retained.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
I know a guy they could use. $1.25 mi retained.
- Mononoke

The third year might be tough for them, but it should be less of a problem then. They at least have a ton of cost certainty on their team unless another young player breaks out
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
I had the Ottawa brawl on VHS. It was my senior year of high school, there was some stupid thing going on at school that I didn't really want to go to but there was some girls there so I went. Taped it and watched it over and over for the next year and a half because of the lockout.

Chara took on Mattias Timander and Timander got the worst of that. Of course there's the classic Spezza v. Sharp where Sharpie pounded him into his submission. Sean Van Allen V. Branko Radivojevic. Danny Markov coming to the rescue of someone I can't remember who was getting punched while on the ice. Man I loved Markov, he was great. Many more great memories. Who was left at the end? Burke, Gagne, Desjardins (?).

13 years ago

Edit: Alexi Zhamnov didn't drop them, pretty sure he was still on the bench. Was Malakhov dressed that game? He didn't go with anyone.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
hi.
- hammarby31


I was looking all over the place for you.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
They really don't have to. As long as they keep like 4 million for bonus I think they'll be fine.
- YuenglingJagr


I'm not too knowledgable about the details of bonuses, or the likelihood that the players will actually hit them. We know how much max potential bonuses a player can earn, but are we privy to what the specific bonuses are? Is it factored in just at the end of the season, or if a player hits one, does it factor into the daily cap at a specific time? Would trading a player at the deadline to free up a couple mil be enough, if need be?

Anyway, yes, we will need room for bonuses. I also forgot that it was announced last week the cap went up $2 mil. I created a team, and you can see we're right up against the cap, and I don't believe the bonuses are factored in. Sending down MacDookie, which I did but am skeptical happens, yields an additional $200k. But trading someone like Read (who would take him at full cost?) or Raffl or the mysterious individual mentioned in my other post still seems like a plausible scenario to free up an additional $2-3+ mil so we're not up against it completely. Goalie is also a position up in the air. If we just sign some crap goalie like Bernier, a likely scenario, he might only cost $2.5 mil.

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/team/381969
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
I was looking all over the place for you.
- Streit2ThePoint


i'm right here.
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