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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
should have included in my blog but it reminds me of last years draft by Coyotes a bit:

Chychrun

- Lucas.Neilson

So choked we did not use one of our 11 picks to move up and draft him last year
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
I will consult the wheel
- AdamFrench



what does the wheel have to say about the Leafs offer sheeting Parayko?

St. Louis is in a bit of a CAP jam... a 1st and 3rd at 5.5 is cheaper than Hamonic.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
Remember when Burke offered Wilson a contract extension and then fired him less than 2 months later?

Good times

- PatC80


Remember when Timmins wanted to Draft Giroux but Gainey/Gauthier really wanted a defenseman so the Habs drafted Fischer instead?

Good times.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
what does the wheel have to say about the Leafs offer sheeting Parayko?

St. Louis is in a bit of a CAP jam... a 1st and 3rd at 5.5 is cheaper than Hamonic.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Could recoup our losses a bit from the Steen trade!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
Stefan Matteau won't receive a QO from the Habs.

DSP for nothing it is!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
what does the wheel have to say about the Leafs offer sheeting Parayko?

St. Louis is in a bit of a CAP jam... a 1st and 3rd at 5.5 is cheaper than Hamonic.

- BorjeFan4Ever


even $5.85M we're ok..
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
Can anyone tell me why we threw away a 6th round pick on a forward who put up less than 30 pts in the O. Was it a make-a-wish foundation thing or something?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
Can anyone tell me why we threw away a 6th round pick on a forward who put up less than 30 pts in the O. Was it a make-a-wish foundation thing or something?
- HealthyScratch6

I go by the adage that if he doesn't have a Wikipedia page he's (poop).
Sandro
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
on Liljegren and Rasanen

Leafs addressed a need with Timothy Liljegren. He can skate, has a great first two steps, and has vision on the ice, a-la Erik Karlsson. Has an accurate shot, and can definitely Quarterback a Power-play. He is not a liability on Defense either.
The reality is, when you don't play hockey for 2 months, and you come back and are a bit rusty (at times), your draft value could drop. it was an easy Scouting-Evaluation for Scouts who saw a player that wasn't living up to the Hype he had, just 9 months earlier.

If Liljegren has a solid 2017-18 season in Sweden, expect him to make the Leafs line-up in 2018-19. His style of play is something that you don't need to nurture in the minor leagues for 3 seasons.

Eemeli Rasanen, who was chosen 59th by the Leafs, also looks like a guy who can contribute at the NHL Level as early as 2018-19.
He stands at 6'7" 215lbs. Plays a solid tough defensive game, and has offense to his game too. has a powerful shot and his reach is amazing to watch. strong comparisons to Zdeno Chara and fellow Fin, Rasmus Ristolainen.
If he has a strong campaign with Kingston, i could see him having a legit shot at making the Leafs next season. For him, its going to come down to skating improvements. not to mention, th kid has a physical game.
In 10 years, Rasanen could be one of the standouts in his draft-class.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
on Liljegren and Rasanen

Leafs addressed a need with Timothy Liljegren. He can skate, has a great first two steps, and has vision on the ice, a-la Erik Karlsson. Has an accurate shot, and can definitely Quarterback a Power-play. He is not a liability on Defense either.
The reality is, when you don't play hockey for 2 months, and you come back and are a bit rusty (at times), your draft value could drop. it was an easy Scouting-Evaluation for Scouts who saw a player that wasn't living up to the Hype he had, just 9 months earlier.

If Liljegren has a solid 2017-18 season in Sweden, expect him to make the Leafs line-up in 2018-19. His style of play is something that you don't need to nurture in the minor leagues for 3 seasons.

Eemeli Rasanen, who was chosen 59th by the Leafs, also looks like a guy who can contribute at the NHL Level as early as 2018-19.
He stands at 6'7" 215lbs. Plays a solid tough defensive game, and has offense to his game too. has a powerful shot and his reach is amazing to watch. strong comparisons to Zdeno Chara and fellow Fin, Rasmus Ristolainen.
If he has a strong campaign with Kingston, i could see him having a legit shot at making the Leafs next season. For him, its going to come down to skating improvements. not to mention, th kid has a physical game.
In 10 years, Rasanen could be one of the standouts in his draft-class.

- Sandro


I love these reports.

Every team has future superstars in their prospect pool since this weekend! :D
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
I love these reports.

Every team has future superstars in their prospect pool since this weekend! :D

- Scabeh

Except for DET
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Can anyone tell me why we threw away a 6th round pick on a forward who put up less than 30 pts in the O. Was it a make-a-wish foundation thing or something?
- HealthyScratch6

Taping a new season of CTV's Thrill of a Lifetime.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Can anyone tell me why we threw away a 6th round pick on a forward who put up less than 30 pts in the O. Was it a make-a-wish foundation thing or something?
- HealthyScratch6

Hunter says: “He needs strength. He’s got hockey sense, he’s got skill. Didn’t have a great year last year. I believe he’s got some upside and will take off next year.”

https://www.thestar.com/s...ond-day-of-nhl-draft.html
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
I love these reports.

Every team has future superstars in their prospect pool since this weekend! :D

- Scabeh



yup... but for the Leafs the last few years have been quite the bonus ... Marner 4th overall, Nylander 8th overall... Brown in the 5th/6th round.... heck even the signing out of KHL (Zaitsev) was a huge bonus.

I can understand how the Habs would feel its all baloney... with Galcheyuck, the only one still with the Habs... and guys like McCarron and Beaulieu... it must be disappointing. But hang in there... once you sign Radulov for 7M$ for six or seven years... all will be good.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
Has anyone noticed a trend in Leafs Nation since Mark Hunter was given the green light for the Maple Leafs drafting?

Great success!


If you're drafting at 17 is Mark Hunter really that wise or is over half the league dumpster lickers.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
I love these reports.

Every team has future superstars in their prospect pool since this weekend! :D

- Scabeh

I really do love the post-draft glow (from all 31 teams' fanbases).

We all have guys who look really good.

We all have guys who will make the big club.

Although in fact, we all are just ignoring the ugly reality - most of these guys will never play in the NHL.

Remember when Dubas stole Nikita Korostelev in the 7th round of the 2015 entry draft?

Gooder times.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:41 PM ET
I love these reports.

Every team has future superstars in their prospect pool since this weekend! :D

- Scabeh



Granted, it is hard to compare 18 year old's to Erik Karlsson and Zdeno Chara, but if both picks do work out in our favour... I'mma be so happy
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
I really do love the post-draft glow (from all 31 teams' fanbases).

We all have guys who look really good.

We all have guys who will make the big club.

Although in fact, we all are just ignoring the ugly reality - most of these guys will never play in the NHL.

Remember when Dubas stole Nikita Korostelev in the 7th round of the 2015 entry draft?

Gooder times.

- Atomic Wedgie


Dont we have some russion in the K tearing it up?
Sandro
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
I really do love the post-draft glow (from all 31 teams' fanbases).

We all have guys who look really good.

We all have guys who will make the big club.

Although in fact, we all are just ignoring the ugly reality - most of these guys will never play in the NHL.

Remember when Dubas stole Nikita Korostelev in the 7th round of the 2015 entry draft?

Gooder times.

- Atomic Wedgie


but if you look at the new Brass in Toronto, more times then not, they are picking solid, Future NHL'ers. the faith is there in their drafting decisions...something that we havent had in Toronto, in ages.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
on Liljegren and Rasanen

Leafs addressed a need with Timothy Liljegren. He can skate, has a great first two steps, and has vision on the ice, a-la Erik Karlsson. Has an accurate shot, and can definitely Quarterback a Power-play. He is not a liability on Defense either.
The reality is, when you don't play hockey for 2 months, and you come back and are a bit rusty (at times), your draft value could drop. it was an easy Scouting-Evaluation for Scouts who saw a player that wasn't living up to the Hype he had, just 9 months earlier.

If Liljegren has a solid 2017-18 season in Sweden, expect him to make the Leafs line-up in 2018-19. His style of play is something that you don't need to nurture in the minor leagues for 3 seasons.

Eemeli Rasanen, who was chosen 59th by the Leafs, also looks like a guy who can contribute at the NHL Level as early as 2018-19.
He stands at 6'7" 215lbs. Plays a solid tough defensive game, and has offense to his game too. has a powerful shot and his reach is amazing to watch. strong comparisons to Zdeno Chara and fellow Fin, Rasmus Ristolainen.
If he has a strong campaign with Kingston, i could see him having a legit shot at making the Leafs next season. For him, its going to come down to skating improvements. not to mention, th kid has a physical game.
In 10 years, Rasanen could be one of the standouts in his draft-class.

- Sandro


Rasanen is the type that I am hesitant about. When guys are that big they remind of a kid from my high school. Taylor Doherty. He was/is massive so he coasted through the years (12-18) where most other kids were developing. He was touted as another Chara. He wasn't a very good skater but he could manhandle most other kids due to his size/height/reach. Then, all the other kids were men with strength and speed and poof, he was very very average. (Also, see; Crouse, Lawson)
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
If you're drafting at 17 is Mark Hunter smart or is over half the league stupid.
- Bigzby


Thanks for Liljegren

lol @ devils, flyers, stars, avs, nucks, knights, rags, sabres, wings, panthers, kings, canes, bolts and flames.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
I really do love the post-draft glow (from all 31 teams' fanbases).

We all have guys who look really good.

We all have guys who will make the big club.

Although in fact, we all are just ignoring the ugly reality - most of these guys will never play in the NHL.

Remember when Dubas stole Nikita Korostelev in the 7th round of the 2015 entry draft?

Gooder times.

- Atomic Wedgie

Another guy who was a top-5 pick before his draft year! Like LittleGrin!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
Dont we have some russion in the K tearing it up?
- Bigzby

No
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
Rasanen is the type that I am hesitant about. When guys are that big they remind of a kid from my high school. Taylor Doherty. He was/is massive so he coasted through the years (12-18) where most other kids were developing. He was touted as another Chara. He wasn't a very good skater but he could manhandle most other kids due to his size/height/reach. Then, all the other kids were men with strength and speed and poof, he was very very average. (Also, see; Crouse, Lawson)
- markmark


yeah. this guy is probably 4-5 years away. who knows what we have with him.
Sandro
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
Rasanen is the type that I am hesitant about. When guys are that big they remind of a kid from my high school. Taylor Doherty. He was/is massive so he coasted through the years (12-18) where most other kids were developing. He was touted as another Chara. He wasn't a very good skater but he could manhandle most other kids due to his size/height/reach. Then, all the other kids were men with strength and speed and poof, he was very very average. (Also, see; Crouse, Lawson)
- markmark


I hear you...which is why he probably went in the 2nd round. Having said that, there is strong Offense in his game. he lead all OHL Rookie D-Men in scoring (66games 39 points).

This is a guy who is either going to be crap, or could be a solid top-4 NHL D-Man.
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