Thorton on a 1 year prove it deal is a great signing. if he ends up stinking it up, we trade him and get an additional asset. the downside is not really there. if they sign him to a 3 year deal - that is a mistake.
- richardson30

Sure there is. He can't keep up and makes the team worse.

Zib is only 23 so that makes him a UFA at 31. give him a modified NTC that kicks in at 27 or 28 and i think that gets it done.
- richardson30

Yeah but from his view what if he cranks out a 70 point year? They are still paying young guys partially on what they can potentially do.
I can't see him taking that low of a average per year. If i'm his agent I stay away from locking up for 8 years at a lower annual $. Just opinion, but I'd rather see 6 years and slightly higher.

I think the only way they'd have a chance of getting Thornton to take a 1 year deal is to make it like 7 million

if Eric Staal could get a 3 year deal last summer, Thornton certainly can
- jimbo83

So what do you say, Jim? Jumbo Joe on a 1-year/$7mm deal. Do you do it?

I think the only way they'd have a chance of getting Thornton to take a 1 year deal is to make it like 7 million

if Eric Staal could get a 3 year deal last summer, Thornton certainly can
- jimbo83

If Thornton was a little younger and/or not having serious knee surgery I would completely agree but now I am starting to doubt if he can find a suitor for that term. Who knows? I kept saying it myself he will get the term/money he wants but now I'm not so sure. Might end up being a good value signing for someone.

So what do you say, Jim? Jumbo Joe on a 1-year/$7mm deal. Do you do it?
- Bean_Dip

Change that 7 to a 4.5 MAX and sure, why not?

So what do you say, Jim? Jumbo Joe on a 1-year/$7mm deal. Do you do it?
- Bean_Dip

I don't

but, if they did it, I'd get it

Yeah but from his view what if he cranks out a 70 point year? They are still paying young guys partially on what they can potentially do.
I can't see him taking that low of a average per year. If i'm his agent I stay away from locking up for 8 years at a lower annual $. Just opinion, but I'd rather see 6 years and slightly higher.
- puckhead17

i see your point. I just hope gorton can jedi mind trick him into a team friendly deal.
He might be a good candidate for a bridge contract. I would rather a longer term, but i could definitely see them doing a bridge here.

Change that 7 to a 4.5 MAX and sure, why not?
- JRR1285

I think that's unrealistic. You either need to lure him with money or with term. Won't be able to get him with neither.

we have the cap space. I would rather use it like that then to sign Shatty to $7M for 5+ years.

Its funny, this is the first time in a few years the rangers have had actual cap space - I just hope they dont blow it like they usually do.
- richardson30

different debate, (and opinion), but I love getting him, the D needs someone that can run the PP, (he will do better than most), join the offense, move the puck out to breaking wingers, he can help add production to some of the wingers stats.
Not at $7m per though, hopefully lower.

I think that's unrealistic. You either need to lure him with money or with term. Won't be able to get him with neither.
- Bean_Dip

You're probably right. But that is a lot of money and you could have a couple of solid players for that instead of one old one with some ? marks.

I think that's unrealistic. You either need to lure him with money or with term. Won't be able to get him with neither.
- Bean_Dip

we also have Nash - him and Nash are supposedly pretty good friends from the team Canada days.

We have about $20M in cap space. I think i would use $7M of that on Jumbo if thats what it took on a 1 year deal.

Here is my opinion on Thornton. If its a 1 year deal I would have to live with it. Still don't think he could keep up in AV's system. Would much rather try to get Hanzal.
- mdw7413

Rangers seem like they aren't into LT deals like years past anymore, Hanzal would be longer deal for sure. They'll probably pass up on both guys anyhow. Richards is he last guy I believe from UFA off another team. That's a long time ago now

a lineup of the below looks pretty good to me:

Kreid - Zib - Buch
JT - Hayes - Grabs
Nash - Jumbo - Zucc
Vesey - Boo - Fast
(lots of toys for AV to play with here)

McD - Smith
Staal - ADA
Skjei - Day
Holden

Hank
Halverson/UFA goalie
- richardson30

Looks pretty good, except that D? Yikes!

I don't know if its realistic that Thornton would sign a one year deal to come here. But if he has recovered from his knee injury, and the Rangers are really rebuilding on the fly here -- meaning they still want to be competitive next year -- I think a one year deal with him that doesn't effect you beyond this year would be smart.

But, why would he to do it? Unless the Rangers gave him some absurd one year salary premium.

different debate, (and opinion), but I love getting him, the D needs someone that can run the PP, (he will do better than most), join the offense, move the puck out to breaking wingers, he can help add production to some of the wingers stats.
Not at $7m per though, hopefully lower.
- puckhead17

I think thats why they brought in the Anthony DeAngelo kid for. Gorton specifically mentioned his running the PP.

i see your point. I just hope gorton can jedi mind trick him into a team friendly deal.
He might be a good candidate for a bridge contract. I would rather a longer term, but i could definitely see them doing a bridge here.
- richardson30

Maybe a 4 year quasi bridge?

He busts out and he will cost a lot more with no other option behind him.

So what do you say, Jim? Jumbo Joe on a 1-year/$7mm deal. Do you do it?
- Bean_Dip

I'd do it. Assuming we really want to still be competitive next year without bollixing up the long-term picture.

Looks pretty good, except that D? Yikes!

I don't know if its realistic that Thornton would sign a one year deal to come here. But if he has recovered from his knee injury, and the Rangers are really rebuilding on the fly here -- meaning they still want to be competitive next year -- I think a one year deal with him that doesn't effect you beyond this year would be smart.

But, why would he to do it? Unless the Rangers gave him some absurd one year salary premium.
- Pete V

The D is what i am most excited about. To watch the progression of ADA, Day, and Skjei would be fun to watch. I could also see them bring in a stop gap for Day or ADA.

Maybe a 4 year quasi bridge?

He busts out and he will cost a lot more with no other option behind him.
- puckhead17

the quasi bridge is what they gave Kreider, so possible

I'd do it. Assuming we really want to still be competitive next year without bollixing up the long-term picture.
- Pete V

Pete's on board

I think thats why they brought in the Anthony DeAngelo kid for. Gorton specifically mentioned his running the PP.
- richardson30

If they think Shat is somewhat of a one dimensional player, than this kid really takes that mo. I think he's too risky of an option right now. I could only see that as an option if they were capped out, and they aren't.

we also have Nash - him and Nash are supposedly pretty good friends from the team Canada days.

We have about $20M in cap space. I think i would use $7M of that on Jumbo if thats what it took on a 1 year deal.
- richardson30

It's an interesting idea. I'm all for it if it's done in the proper way.

If he'd be willing to be a supporting role guy on this team and help the young guys out, I think there's some upside.

What are jumbos faceoff numbers? I don't have any desire to research haha. Are the steady, declining, good, bad, etc?

the quasi bridge is what they gave Kreider, so possible
- jimbo83

Yeah we now have bridge, quasi bridge, and unlock the vault.

Rangers seem like they aren't into LT deals like years past anymore, Hanzal would be longer deal for sure. They'll probably pass up on both guys anyhow. Richards is he last guy I believe from UFA off another team. That's a long time ago now
- Slimtj100

Are we sure Hanzal is looking for a long term deal?

Because if there is a veteran center I would want that fits with this team better, it would be him.

The beloved Yakapov (by so many here over the last few years) is now a FA. Would you do a 1 year show me contract?