When the Habs were a winning organization some 30 years ago, they would have found the head scout hanging from the rafters at the old Forum if his record looked anything like Timmins' & cie.
- Garfield512

pre-lock out and the first 2-3 years after there wasn't as much of an emphasis on drafting. Ya it was important, but it's different when you could just spend

When the Habs were a winning organization some 30 years ago, they would have found the head scout hanging from the rafters at the old Forum if his record looked anything like Timmins' & cie.

EDIT: This organization has lost it's way a long time ago ... the fact that we haven't had a #1 center in 20 years illustrates this fact perfectly.
- Garfield512

NASH traded Jones to get their #1C Johansen.
MB traded Sergachev to get Drouin... the little (frank)er better play center.

pre-lock out and the first 2-3 years after there wasn't as much of an emphasis on drafting. Ya it was important, but it's different when you could just spend
- mr.peanut

Very true ... but it's no excuse to keep a team of scouts that have clearly shown they don't know what they're doing.

Scouting and drafting are now more important than ever, if you suck at it your team will suffer a lot more (like we are now) from it than in the past as you can no longer buy yourself out of a bind.

EDIT: I predict we will get passed in the standings by many teams very soon ... our core players are only getting older (not better) and there's no visible succession on the horizon. All we're doing at this point is plugging holes in the lineup (with our draft picks of all things!).

Very true ... but it's no excuse to keep a team of scouts that have clearly shown they don't know what they're doing.

Scouting and drafting are now more important than ever, if you suck at it your team will suffer a lot more (like we are now) from it than in the past as you can no longer buy yourself out of a bind.

EDIT: I predict we will get passed in the standings by many teams very soon ... our core players are only getting older (not better) and there's no visible succession on the horizon. All we're doing at this point is plugging holes in the lineup (with our draft picks of all things!).
- Garfield512

meh. I find you a bit harsh.
Price, Patch, both Gally, Drouin, Lekhonen... they still have a good core reasonably young. getting ride of Emelin was a good thing. losing Plek will help even more.

Very true ... but it's no excuse to keep a team of scouts that have clearly shown they don't know what they're doing.

Scouting and drafting are now more important than ever, if you suck at it your team will suffer a lot more (like we are now) from it than in the past as you can no longer buy yourself out of a bind.

EDIT: I predict we will get passed in the standings by many teams very soon ... our core players are only getting older (not better) and there's no visible succession on the horizon. All we're doing at this point is plugging holes in the lineup (with our draft picks of all things!).
- Garfield512

Grigorenko wasn't qualified by Colorado.

It happens all around the league

meh. I find you a bit harsh.
Price, Patch, both Gally, Drouin, Lekhonen... they still have a good core reasonably young. getting ride of Emelin was a good thing. losing Plek will help even more.
- fidopro

Maybe I am (pissy mood today), my bad ... but I don't see us getting close to a Cup anytime soon.

Maybe I am (pissy mood today), my bad ... but I don't see us getting close to a Cup anytime soon.
- Garfield512

They're not that far.
Assuming Markov and Radulov do not re-up, the only russian on the payroll would be Sherback. Baby steps!

Grigorenko wasn't qualified by Colorado.

It happens all around the league
- stinger67

I'd take a shot on him or preferably Yakupov for 1 year, $1.5M max. Whats the worst that could happen?

I'd take a shot on him or preferably Yakupov for 1 year, $1.5M max. Whats the worst that could happen?
- muffin_man

read my previous post

They're not that far.
Assuming Markov and Radulov do not re-up, the only russian on the payroll would be Sherback. Baby steps!
- fidopro

I think Russians get an unfair rep. Remember the good old days of Danny Markov and Dmitri Mironov?

Markov gave you many good years, he's just old now.

I think Russians get an unfair rep. Remember the good old days of Danny Markov and Dmitri Mironov?

Markov gave you many good years, he's just old now.
- twiztedmike

oh he sure gave many good years, but never won anything!
take a look at past cup winners. not too many russians on these teams...

oh he sure gave many good years, but never won anything!
take a look at past cup winners. not too many russians on these teams...
- fidopro

You are right.... but how about the Detroit Red Wings when they had the Russian Five?

You are right.... but how about the Detroit Red Wings when they had the Russian Five?
- twiztedmike

well, if we can go back that far, why not go back to the Flying Frenchmen?
let stick to the past 10 years. it's a new game.

well, if we can go back that far, why not go back to the Flying Frenchmen?
- fidopro

meh '97 aint that old.

meh '97 aint that old.
- twiztedmike

last year Habs had a legit #1C?
old enough


Methot to Dallas for a 2nd round pick and a goaile prospect. good for them.

so MB will sign Yakupov and Grigorenko?

so MB will sign Yakupov and Grigorenko?
- Symba007

nail or mikhail? -rick

nail or mikhail? -rick
- mr.peanut

Both.

Methot's stay with the Vegas Golden Knights lasted five days. Vegas traded the defenceman to the Dallas Stars on Monday In return for goalie Dylan Ferguson and a 2020 second-round pick.

Not sure why Grigorenko would even be considered. He's had many chances to produce and has failed to do so. Yakupov might also be a stretch but he's been on teams where he wasn't been the guy, so signing him might be a bit more logical. I said a bit... not by much. In both cases, PTO's are in order. Any team actually giving them guaranteed NHL contracts should be thanked for their services.

Methot's stay with the Vegas Golden Knights lasted five days. Vegas traded the defenceman to the Dallas Stars on Monday In return for goalie Dylan Ferguson and a 2020 second-round pick.



- WaterBoy

Good for Dallas. This is the type of player they need and they gave up nothing to acquire him. I'd be real interested what Ottawa offered pre and post draft, also what other team he refused to go to, not to mention what said team was offering.

Not sure why Grigorenko would even be considered. He's had many chances to produce and has failed to do so. Yakupov might also be a stretch but he's been on teams where he wasn't been the guy, so signing him might be a bit more logical. I said a bit... not by much. In both cases, PTO's are in order. Any team actually giving them guaranteed NHL contracts should be thanked for their services.
- kev1586

Welcome aboard Yak!

Welcome aboard Yak!


- WaterBoy

Both.
- jugkope

Why not?

I like it!

Why not?

I like it!
- pete26

Then we convert Yakupov to LHD.