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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 6:31 PM ET
How about you, iggy and I go to coffee and we can break down the term "moot point" in detail.

Was just pointing out the cost of a 9.5 offer sheet. We can always hope the 'Yotes, 'Canes, Panthers take a shot at this.

- fry


Moo point.

Cows opinion.

Doesn't matter.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
Chiasson was not qualified.
- wreckage


Not the end of the world if we lose him. He was okay as a 4th liner but not as gritty as you'd expect a guy of his size with limited skill.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
How about you, iggy and I go to coffee and we can break down the term "moot point" in detail.

Was just pointing out the cost of a 9.5 offer sheet. We can always hope the 'Yotes, 'Canes, Panthers take a shot at this.

- fry


Is there booze in this coffee ??
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:42 PM ET
Is there booze in this coffee ??
- Redmile247


The coffee is really only added for colouring purposes
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 6:42 PM ET
Moo point.

Cows opinion.

Doesn't matter.

- The-O-G


What kinda grass has that cow been eating ...amiright
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 6:43 PM ET
The coffee is really only added for colouring purposes
- fry


Ok your back In the good books ...
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:07 PM ET
Move along sister! Who do you cheer for...the Riders??? Hahahahahaha GFY!!


Hey!! Don't lump the rest of Sask in with this idiot !

Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 7:11 PM ET
Assuming that we re-sign

Versteeg at 2.5m
Sam Bennett 3m
Ferland for 2.5m
Lazar for 1.75m
Chaisson for 3m
Hathway for 1.25m
Kulak 1.25m
Stone for 3.5m
Johnson for 3m

Total 21.75

Currant cap space 59m

Puts us 5 million over the cap?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Assuming that we re-sign

Versteeg at 2.5m
Sam Bennett 3m
Ferland for 2.5m
Lazar for 1.75m
Chaisson for 3m
Hathway for 1.25m
Kulak 1.25m
Stone for 3.5m
Johnson for 3m

Total 21.75

Currant cap space 59m

Puts us 5 million over the cap?

- Yeah...Baby


Good thing we didn't qualify chiasson
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 7:20 PM ET
Good thing we didn't qualify chiasson
- Redmile247


Doesn't mean he can't be re-signed.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:23 PM ET
Doesn't mean he can't be re-signed.
- Yeah...Baby


If your willing to give him 3 mill why wouldn't you qualify him ?

What did he make last year 1.2 ?
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
Assuming that we re-sign

Versteeg at 2.5m
Sam Bennett 3m
Ferland for 2.5m
Lazar for 1.75m
Chaisson for 3m
Hathway for 1.25m
Kulak 1.25m
Stone for 3.5m
Johnson for 3m

Total 21.75

Currant cap space 59m

Puts us 5 million over the cap?

- Yeah...Baby


We aren't signing Johnson, especially if it took 3 mill to do it. I'm sick of the 2 veteran goaltending approach, it has not worked well for us at all so why keep trying it?

Roll with Rittich or Gillies as the backup and let them start cutting their teeth at the NHL level.

I wouldn't waste the dollars on Stone either. Kulak is arguably a better dman overall and 1 of Kylington/Rass should be ready for bottom pairing minutes. We have one of the best top 4's in the league, they'll handle all the tough minutes and we can shelter our bottom pairing until they prove they are ready for more.

I wouldn't mind Chiasson, but no way he's worth more than 2 mill. He's a 4th line winger who's not bad defensively.


There, that trimmed 9.5 million of unnecessary salary off the board. We won't have much issue being under the cap, I'm not at all worried.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
Lets take all 3. Jagr, Doan, and Iggy.
- Otiss

That worked well with Amonye, Freisen, Nolan...
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 7:52 PM ET
Assuming that we re-sign

Versteeg at 2.5m
Sam Bennett 3m
Ferland for 2.5m
Lazar for 1.75m
Chaisson for 3m
Hathway for 1.25m
Kulak 1.25m
Stone for 3.5m
Johnson for 3m

Total 21.75

Currant cap space 59m

Puts us 5 million over the cap?

- Yeah...Baby


What's the qualifying on Lazar ? I'd say $800k max. Chaisson, $1.3 max. Hathaway...what's min $600k max IMO. Kulak $650 max.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:53 PM ET
We aren't signing Johnson, especially if it took 3 mill to do it. I'm sick of the 2 veteran goaltending approach, it has not worked well for us at all so why keep trying it?

Roll with Rittich or Gillies as the backup and let them start cutting their teeth at the NHL level.

I wouldn't waste the dollars on Stone either. Kulak is arguably a better dman overall and 1 of Kylington/Rass should be ready for bottom pairing minutes. We have one of the best top 4's in the league, they'll handle all the tough minutes and we can shelter our bottom pairing until they prove they are ready for more.

I wouldn't mind Chiasson, but no way he's worth more than 2 mill. He's a 4th line winger who's not bad defensively.


There, that trimmed 9.5 million of unnecessary salary off the board. We won't have much issue being under the cap, I'm not at all worried.

- Saskabush



well done !
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 7:54 PM ET
What's the qualifying on Lazar ? I'd say $800k max. Chaisson, $1.3 max. Hathaway...what's min $600k max IMO. Kulak $650 max.
- tincup


And none of those guy have done enough to warrant any kind of raise beyond the qualifying offer
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 8:07 PM ET
And none of those guy have done enough to warrant any kind of raise beyond the qualifying offer
- Redmile247


Ferland is really the only one i'm wondering about. Last time it took till Sept to get him signed and he's been good ever since. Not sure what he'll come in at but $3million / 3 years would not surprise me.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:11 PM ET
Ferland is really the only one i'm wondering about. Last time it took till Sept to get him signed and he's been good ever since. Not sure what he'll come in at but $3million / 3 years would not surprise me.
- tincup


Yeah he could be the one RFA who gets a bit more ...but he has earned it
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 26 @ 8:33 PM ET
What's the qualifying on Lazar ? I'd say $800k max. Chaisson, $1.3 max. Hathaway...what's min $600k max IMO. Kulak $650 max.
- tincup


Lowest possible is 5% raise to qualify a guy. He will be making 950k if he accepts his qualify offer
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 8:39 PM ET
Lowest possible is 5% raise to qualify a guy. He will be making 950k if he accepts his qualify offer
- DDM-Coga


The avs trading us mikko is giving me a lot more than a 5% raise
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:34 PM ET
How about you, iggy and I go to coffee and we can break down the term "moot point" in detail.

Was just pointing out the cost of a 9.5 offer sheet. We can always hope the 'Yotes, 'Canes, Panthers take a shot at this.

- fry


Coffee??

Nah you'll have to join Coga and I for some tequila and tacos at blanco or native tongues...

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 9:38 PM ET
Lowest possible is 5% raise to qualify a guy. He will be making 950k if he accepts his qualify offer
- DDM-Coga

No more Freakarenko for you...
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:39 PM ET
Someone please get this man a doanair ...and some grits
- Redmile247



Good one!
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 9:41 PM ET
We aren't signing Johnson, especially if it took 3 mill to do it. I'm sick of the 2 veteran goaltending approach, it has not worked well for us at all so why keep trying it?

Roll with Rittich or Gillies as the backup and let them start cutting their teeth at the NHL level.

I wouldn't waste the dollars on Stone either. Kulak is arguably a better dman overall and 1 of Kylington/Rass should be ready for bottom pairing minutes. We have one of the best top 4's in the league, they'll handle all the tough minutes and we can shelter our bottom pairing until they prove they are ready for more.

I wouldn't mind Chiasson, but no way he's worth more than 2 mill. He's a 4th line winger who's not bad defensively.


There, that trimmed 9.5 million of unnecessary salary off the board. We won't have much issue being under the cap, I'm not at all worried.

- Saskabush



I remember Bart and Engs getting trapped in our own end against Anaheim. I would want to be sure that the 3rd pair is at least NHL capable.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:57 PM ET
Coffee??

Nah you'll have to join Coga and I for some tequila and tacos at blanco or native tongues...

- Iggysbff


Tequila and hot taeks. Sounds good to me
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