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TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:04 PM ET
Two teams in the NHL went heavy into the analytics last year…Florida and Phoenix. Since then, both teams have missed the playoffs and had head coaching changes and shuffles at the management levels. Analytics are another tool that teams have at their availabilities, but for the most part are simply just a gimmick to get fans more involved by having a larger stats package
- Woowy

Ok Oiler troll we get it, you're upset CGY made a smart move and got a player that yet again your GM didn't. And as far as Russell goes. Your not fooling anyone here, if you forgot, we had him on our team as well. And the great shot blocker arguement got ripped by you guys then. SUck it
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
I think he would be a great fit!
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
trade Bennett to the Predators so they can flip him to the Avs.

Do it. After the rumour Preds package for Duchene, I need that little rat

- DDM-Coga


Well give you a mason Raymond signed picture and the rights to stone for mikko
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Off topic, but I’m wondering what Flames fans would think of signing Tyler Pitlick as a UFA? Sounds like he is not going back to stink town. 6’2″ 200+ lbs right shot. He scored 8G and 3A in 31GP last year which translates to roughly 20G and 30pts. I don’t like to watch a lot of EDM games when I don’t have to so I can’t say much for how he looked last year. Could he be another Glencross and possible fill in with Johnny and Mony on the RW? A 1year prove it contract? I'm sure some Oiler trol...er, fans will chime in.
- TandA4Flames


Why does everyone want to replace ferland on the top line with projects
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
Well give you a mason Raymond signed picture and the rights to stone for mikko
- Redmile247


you keep your greasy paws off my Baby Deer Mikko
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
Ok Oiler troll we get it, you're upset CGY made a smart move and got a player that yet again your GM didn't. And as far as Russell goes. Your not fooling anyone here, if you forgot, we had him on our team as well. And the great shot blocker arguement got ripped by you guys then. SUck it
- TandA4Flames


Exactly, Oiler trolls are angry. The best part is the cap hit allows Tre to go shopping and hopefully add a scoring winger and a decent goalie and maybe another Dman. Should be a fun year.
I miss Kipper
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 06.14.2017

Jun 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
Comparing him to Russell??!!?? The Oilers didn't have to give up anything to get Russell and besides he had 13 points, +5, 67 hits and lead the league in blocked shots. At least he wasn't a -21 in 49 games as well as only having 58 hits when you're supposed to be a physical defence man
- Woowy


don't forget you traded Eberle and Hall to "save cap space" only to turn around and give 11 million dollars to quasimodo... err i mean lucic, and russell.

Also, how's Griffin Reinhart?
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
don't forget you traded Eberle and Hall to "save cap space" only to turn around and give 11 million dollars to quasimodo... err i mean lucic, and russell.

Also, how's Griffin Reinhart?

- I miss Kipper



.. aaa bazinga!
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I love the trade for the Flames. I fear Hamonic may be a little overrated though. Has anyone ever really watch his play closely? By all accounts he didn't have a great year last year
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
Why does everyone want to replace ferland on the top line with projects
- Redmile247

I don't want to replace Ferland on the top line per se, but if we can improve in a position and move a guy down a spot that he can perform in, then that adds to our depth. Plus, ticking it to the Oil again is always a good time.

Plus, there isn't much in FA and I would rather try a you guy that has shown potential than sign an older guy that wants big term and money.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
I love the trade for the Flames. I fear Hamonic may be a little overrated though. Has anyone ever really watch his play closely? By all accounts he didn't have a great year last year
- BernardShakey

Nope but neither did most of his teammates. He'll have a highend partner in Brodie (if that stays true) so that will help. He's in the West as he's requested for a while now, I suspect (if he stays healthy) he'll add to our backend quite nicely.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:55 PM ET
don't forget you traded Eberle and Hall to "save cap space" only to turn around and give 11 million dollars to quasimodo... err i mean lucic, and russell.

Also, how's Griffin Reinhart?

- I miss Kipper


SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
don't forget you traded Eberle and Hall to "save cap space" only to turn around and give 11 million dollars to quasimodo... err i mean lucic, and russell.

Also, how's Griffin Reinhart?

- I miss Kipper

I miss Kipper
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 06.14.2017

Jun 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
I love the trade for the Flames. I fear Hamonic may be a little overrated though. Has anyone ever really watch his play closely? By all accounts he didn't have a great year last year
- BernardShakey


He's signed to a phenomenal contract. It won't take much for him to earn his keep... we paid Smid almost as much for 2 years not to even play... we paid wideman 1.5 million more... he's less than a million more than engelland (and I was happy with his play). I have no doubt he will fit in and provide value.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
He's signed to a phenomenal contract. It won't take much for him to earn his keep... we paid Smid almost as much for 2 years not to even play... we paid wideman 1.5 million more... he's less than a million more than engelland (and I was happy with his play). I have no doubt he will fit in and provide value.
- I miss Kipper


Plus he's exactly where he wants to be now...Western Canada. If he good on our team, they should be able to keep him around for a long time.at a reasonable price.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
This trade has the stink of Brian Burke all over it. He gives away draft picks because its like paying for something with a credit card. The chance of Calgary missing the playoffs this year are really very good. Elliott was a better goalie than Smith before he came to Calgary and the defence wrecked him. Hamonic peaked in 2014-15 season because a -21 in 49 games and he's a "defensive defence man". 58 hits in 49 games is called "physical"? 14 points in 49 games and he has an "offensive upside"….He's a one season wonder and the Islanders are laughing all the way to a good lottery pick.
- Woowy


Are you high?
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDQaCYFVoAAbJCr.jpg

Someone's pumped to be part of the team

- Squilliam-


Love it!
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Two teams in the NHL went heavy into the analytics last year…Florida and Phoenix. Since then, both teams have missed the playoffs and had head coaching changes and shuffles at the management levels. Analytics are another tool that teams have at their availabilities, but for the most part are simply just a gimmick to get fans more involved by having a larger stats package
- Woowy


Stats are a tool, just like you.

Both of those teams went through major culture shifts, and you expect that to translate to wining immediately? FLA let Gallant go because he wasn't bought into the analytics, which is fine, but that was mid season and new systems came into play. Flames struggled under Coach G's system for the first half of the season, which partly olayed into Elliotts struggles. The guy also just couldn't stop a beachball some nights.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
Two teams in the NHL went heavy into the analytics last year…Florida and Phoenix. Since then, both teams have missed the playoffs and had head coaching changes and shuffles at the management levels. Analytics are another tool that teams have at their availabilities, but for the most part are simply just a gimmick to get fans more involved by having a larger stats package
- Woowy


Florida was riddled with injury, and Phoenix had tippet running the show.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Jun 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
Up in Edmonton:


Love both the Oilers fans salt and the fact that they are now defending Russell to be a great defenseman when two years ago they were crapping all over the Flames for having him. Good stuff Edmonton.

This is a great deal for us, and the fact that we have a superior defenseman than Russell AND we're paying him less is just the icing on the cake.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
Up in Edmonton:


Love both the Oilers fans salt and the fact that they are now defending Russell to be a great defenseman when two years ago they were crapping all over the Flames for having him. Good stuff Edmonton.

This is a great deal for us, and the fact that we have a superior defenseman than Russell AND we're paying him less is just the icing on the cake.

- Helios

Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
Love it!
- rmull905

You gotta wonder what Smith's reaction was when he heard about the Hamonic trade.
His intensity level is going to be through the roof I bet.

Smith wasn't my first choice but I like him way more than Elliott that's for sure.

The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 3:26 PM ET
don't forget you traded Eberle and Hall to "save cap space" only to turn around and give 11 million dollars to quasimodo... err i mean lucic, and russell.

Also, how's Griffin Reinhart?

- I miss Kipper



WHOOOOOPPPSYYYYYYYY
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Jun 26 @ 3:32 PM ET
I know the rumours are out there that Radulov wants 7 million but want and gets always turn out to be very different.

Any interest if BT offered 5x5?

Not much RW's coming up in our pipeline! I think with the edition of him, we would be immediate contenders!
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
Just for a second imagine what this Flames team would look like if THEY won the draft lotto and got McDavid and not the Oilers. They'd be moving to Seattle!!!
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