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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 1:59 PM ET
Not much out there to replace him
- jchst22

Shallow free agency pool is no excuse to pay Bonino close to 5 mil a year. If something can't be worked out with one of the handful of UFAs for a reasonable deal (Bonino included), then Rutherford should explore trade avenues for a low priced value player, just like he did with Bonino.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
PLEASE tell me no one is truly considering under 5 mill is a legit offer for Jumbo. I wouldn't offer more than 1.5 for 1 year for him.

Pay Bonino. 4 years, 3.5 - 4 per.

Say NO TO JOE!!!

- Doogs


Agreed, 3 years is a loooooonnnng time for a guy who's 38

How'd that Kunitz deal work out for us? Gave him 4 years during a career season at 34 and he (although had nice possession #'s) crapped the bed in the scoring department these last 2

Joe might talk me up to 1 year 4 million, If he insists on 2 years, he gets 7 MAX!!
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
2 years at 5 mil per year would be good with me. Management is also in love with "toughness" and jumbo joe does not take poop from anyone
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Agreed, 3 years is a loooooonnnng time for a guy who's 38

How'd that Kunitz deal work out for us? Gave him 4 years during a career season at 34 and he (although had nice possession #'s) crapped the bed in the scoring department these last 2

Joe might talk me up to 1 year 4 million, If he insists on 2 years, he gets 7 MAX!!

- TheGame316

Kunitz deal worked out fairly well. Earned his salary for most of his contract and this year was just bit overpaid
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
Agreed, 3 years is a loooooonnnng time for a guy who's 38

How'd that Kunitz deal work out for us? Gave him 4 years during a career season at 34 and he (although had nice possession #'s) crapped the bed in the scoring department these last 2

Joe might talk me up to 1 year 4 million, If he insists on 2 years, he gets 7 MAX!!

- TheGame316


But with his vintage-Kunitz play the last 7 games of the postseason...all is forgiven
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
Yohe reported recently that Cullen may not retire. If he comes back, I'd like to see him treated like a goalie, resting on back to backs and getting the occasional non-back to back game off to keep him fresh. There were times last year where he looked like he didn't have much left in the tank.
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 3:10 PM ET
I can't remember why the Bruins soured on Joe. If sully was on that coaching staff I wonder if he'd even want him today. For the record I couldn't be more on board with jumbo ad a 3c
- Mattkriz

They didn't really "sour," but the team really sucked at the time and it was a poorly kept secret that he wasn't really interested in a rebuild.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jun 25 @ 3:42 PM ET
Yohe reported recently that Cullen may not retire. If he comes back, I'd like to see him treated like a goalie, resting on back to backs and getting the occasional non-back to back game off to keep him fresh. There were times last year where he looked like he didn't have much left in the tank.
- Victoro311

If the Pens knew that then moving Sunqvist makes more sense with the emergence of Rowney. Oshie got 5.75, Eaves got 3.15 per. I would think Bonino's number would be closer to Eaves??? comments?
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
If the Pens knew that then moving Sunqvist makes more sense with the emergence of Rowney. Oshie got 5.75, Eaves got 3.15 per. I would think Bonino's number would be closer to Eaves??? comments?
- Brianandr1


Absolutely hope you are right, as I said, i would give Bonino 4 years (5 maybe) @ 3-4.

And would love a foourth line of 75 - 7 - 35,23,14,37
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
Are you people crazy? If Joe expressed interest in a 1 year deal, I would throw all of the money at him. Joe is a playmaking assist machine. Joe passes puck, team scores. You offer Bonino nothing and offer Joe everything.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
If the Pens knew that then moving Sunqvist makes more sense with the emergence of Rowney. Oshie got 5.75, Eaves got 3.15 per. I would think Bonino's number would be closer to Eaves??? comments?
- Brianandr1

He could be in between those 2 numbers probably will get 4.5
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:55 PM ET
Are you people crazy? If Joe expressed interest in a 1 year deal, I would throw all of the money at him. Joe is a playmaking assist machine. Joe passes puck, team scores. You offer Bonino nothing and offer Joe everything.
- eNDSo

Yea I'd love to have Jumbo here, he's the best center available
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:55 PM ET
I can't remember why the Bruins soured on Joe. If sully was on that coaching staff I wonder if he'd even want him today. For the record I couldn't be more on board with jumbo ad a 3c
- Mattkriz

That was the Jacobs family, extremely cheap. Didnt want to pay him.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Why does RW want a guy sooo bad who is 38 coming off knee surgery asking for coin never shoots the damn puck scored 6 goals in 2 yrs... hard no. Keep this curse away.

Dont want to pay bones either but all the regular season secondary assists in the world cant replace the block shots and clutch goals it takes to win the cup.

They must not have a chart for that
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 25 @ 5:17 PM ET
1st call:

CROSBY: "Hey Jumbo, what's up? Let's get a three-peat? Discount time buddy!"

JUMBO: "Let's do this!"

=====================
2nd call:

MALKIN: "Hey Marleau, most underated player in the NHL. Me score need a wing. Let's get the cup! Need discount. Less money to ask"

MARLEAU: "LOL. Let's do it G!"

DONE DEALS!
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:29 PM ET
That was the Jacobs family, extremely cheap. Didnt want to pay him.
- nelson911

Not quite, he had just signed a bridge deal in the offseason before the trade, but the team was terrible and Jumbo (understandably) didn't want to be part of a rebuild that looked like it would take a lot longer than it actually did.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 5:55 PM ET
Not quite, he had just signed a bridge deal in the offseason before the trade, but the team was terrible and Jumbo (understandably) didn't want to be part of a rebuild that looked like it would take a lot longer than it actually did.
- eganator

Im not so sure I would go with that theory as the only. He was traded for nothing players, i guess Sturm was ok. They barely shopped him (mike keenan admitted there were 2 other teams called, him being 1 and his owner didnt have the money to pay him otherwise he wouldve been a Panther).

If anything there had to be some locker room problem or something mixed with ownership. And as usual Joe didnt do well in the playoffs.
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:03 PM ET
Im not so sure I would go with that theory, he was traded for nothing players. They barely shopped him. If anything there had to be some locker room problem or something mixed with ownership. And as usual Joe didnt do well in the playoffs.
- nelson911

Well the savings helped bring in Chara. He wanted out it was fairly known. They wanted to build the Top 6 around Bergeron (probably the right call). It's also an age old Boston sports media tradition to label a superstar a malcontent right after they leave town. My whole point is if it was about Jacobs being cheap he wouldn't have signed Chara the following offseason.
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
Im not so sure I would go with that theory as the only. He was traded for nothing players, i guess Sturm was ok. They barely shopped him (mike keenan admitted there were 2 other teams called, him being 1 and his owner didnt have the money to pay him otherwise he wouldve been a Panther).

If anything there had to be some locker room problem or something mixed with ownership. And as usual Joe didnt do well in the playoffs.

- nelson911

And yeah he didn't do well in the playoffs but the team's in the 4th decade of a drought, nobody did well in the playoffs.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:15 PM ET
1st call:

CROSBY: "Hey Jumbo, what's up? Let's get a three-peat? Discount time buddy!"

JUMBO: "Let's do this!"

=====================
2nd call:

MALKIN: "Hey Marleau, most underated player in the NHL. Me score need a wing. Let's get the cup! Need discount. Less money to ask"

MARLEAU: "LOL. Let's do it G!"
On
DONE DEALS!

- Barnaby36

Slow down. No one said anything about Marleau. Don't need him at all.
Sheary Crosby Guentzel
Rust Malkin Sprong
ZAR Thornton Kessel
Reeves Rowney Horny
Still have Hagelen, Wilson, Kuhnhackle, Archie,
Absolutely no room for Marleau
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 6:19 PM ET
Im not so sure I would go with that theory as the only. He was traded for nothing players, i guess Sturm was ok. They barely shopped him (mike keenan admitted there were 2 other teams called, him being 1 and his owner didnt have the money to pay him otherwise he wouldve been a Panther).

If anything there had to be some locker room problem or something mixed with ownership. And as usual Joe didnt do well in the playoffs.

- nelson911

This is such a strange label. Jumbo has always produced well during the playoffs. This is like people saying Crosby and Malkin disappeared during the playoffs before they won the Cup again last year. I feel like if you don't win a cup, you get labeled a playoff lemon.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
Slow down. No one said anything about Marleau. Don't need him at all.
Sheary Crosby Guentzel
Rust Malkin Sprong
ZAR Thornton Kessel
Reeves Rowney Horny
Still have Hagelen, Wilson, Kuhnhackle, Archie,
Absolutely no room for Marleau

- Dcoms

LOL...We don't need Jumbo either. Back to back baby. Can I play around? Thank you.
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 6:24 PM ET
This is such a strange label. Jumbo has always produced well during the playoffs. This is like people saying Crosby and Malkin disappeared during the playoffs before they won the Cup again last year. I feel like if you don't win a cup, you get labeled a playoff lemon.
- Victoro311

I think it has a lot to do with losing to lower seeds, which happens in the NHL more than any league
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:25 PM ET
This is such a strange label. Jumbo has always produced well during the playoffs. This is like people saying Crosby and Malkin disappeared during the playoffs before they won the Cup again last year. I feel like if you don't win a cup, you get labeled a playoff lemon.
- Victoro311

You're right, I misspoke, I dont think he is as bad as what is perceived. My intention was to highlight the year before his trade when he was completely shutout I believe by Mtl?
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:25 PM ET
Slow down. No one said anything about Marleau. Don't need him at all.
Sheary Crosby Guentzel
Rust Malkin Sprong
ZAR Thornton Kessel
Reeves Rowney Horny
Still have Hagelen, Wilson, Kuhnhackle, Archie,
Absolutely no room for Marleau

- Dcoms

It's funny how you put Sprong Top 6 right off the bat, handed a 3rd line spot to Aston-Reese and put Horny in the 4th line.....while scratching Hagelin! wow

Hopefully Sprong is ready for the big time! New Guentzel on the waiting

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