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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
Hammer - easy to make the argument he was a completely unselfish team player, who in his tenure took a lot of physical abuse in the role he was asked to play I would argue that role suppressed other skills he has - throwing the body and getting more in the offensive mix. Given the turtle schema adopted in the last two seasons, it is not hard to see why the whole D squad took a step back. There is no value in the arguments about his skills waning. If anything, the lack of O zone time and forecheck affected everyone. Perhaps a change of scenery where he is the #2 guy will allow him to play a less physical game, maybe play more offense, and mentor younger teammates.

Hawks will miss him for sure, but I think Ulf has ideas about the future.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
Jumbo - three years is asking too much. There will be a lot of suitors, and undoubtedly, someone will overpay. Just not going to be Chicago.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
Sucks to have to admit it, but yes, THIS THIS and THIS. x10^9
- DMChi2010



Nope, Needs to play an effective season, I'd start rotating a few key out like the NBA from the midpoint on. 82 games = out of gas in playoffs. Just ask 72 who went newts to the wall over the last 5 games...
matt_ahrens
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jun 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
Jumbo - three years is asking too much. There will be a lot of suitors, and undoubtedly, someone will overpay. Just not going to be Chicago.
- Return of the Roar


No harm in him asking, will anyone offer that? I'm not so sure. Nor am I sure that it's a done deal for him to return to SJ. They have a lot of cap space and may take the opportunity to make some changes. He and GM Doug Wilson haven't exactly been best friends over the years. They'd probably want to bring Marleau back first; Shark for life and all of that hubbub. The injury rehab would be a concern. If I were the Blackhawks, I'd want to pursue other options first and have Jumbo be a plan C or D at best.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
JJ any ideas or whispers on who the hawks might target in free agency besides wiggles, and sharp?
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
Just found this on the inter webs, this is what I'm taking about:


- John Jaeckel


I do like how he quickly jumped between the opposing player and his puck. That's a bit reminiscent of Bolly
djd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Joined: 02.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:50 PM ET
Hammer DID get exposed by Nashville as much as any other Hawks Dman. Is he better defensively than 2 or 7? Yes. But 2+7 drive offense and Hammer does not. I think Keith-Murphy could complement each other very well. I also think Kempny-Seabs or Forsling-Seabs could be a good 2nd pair. For those complaining, I don't get it. Nyt STATUS QUO was NOT working. Saad > Panarin and Murphy is a physical puck mover that can develop under Ulf while playing with a 2-Time Norris Trophy and Conn Smythe winner. Bowman should now trade AA+ for another Dman or a Top 6 LW like E.Kane. Tough, bold decisions were finally made by StanBo, and I applaud him for it. Let's wait until puck drop before assessing the team.
- EnzoD



This all day. Plus Bowman bought himself some cost certainty towards the cap for the next four years with Saad and Murphy(five). Panarin and Hammer both due for raises in two years. Solid move looking forward, me thinks…
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
Henrique would be solid for the second line. E. Kane at a 1 year deal? Salary is off the books next year... might be worth it. You're getting speed, size, tenacity. An add like that carries some baggage... a little too much maybe, but it's easily 25 goals and a net crasher.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 4:59 PM ET
Henrique would be solid for the second line. E. Kane at a 1 year deal? Salary is off the books next year... might be worth it. You're getting speed, size, tenacity. An add like that carries some baggage... a little too much maybe, but it's easily 25 goals and a net crasher.
- 93Joe


With P.Kane, E.Kane could score 35 goals.
jt19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: LAINGSBURG, MI
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 25 @ 5:08 PM ET
i thank Hjammer for the years in chicago, but those were hard, hard minutes on his body... and we could not afford him in 2 more years. Couldn't afford Panarin's raise either. Good moves.

For Kruger to Vegas (if that's where he goes), I want William Karlsson back. gives us another penalty killer with a little nasty in him.

Then AA to wherever for picks to open up cap space and let schmaltz move to 2c.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
With P.Kane, E.Kane could score 35 goals.
- kwolf68

Not only that, create space and push people the (frank) out of the way. But yeah wolf, you're spot on. And that's a matchup problem if he is added to the top 6.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Powers:

The #Blackhawks have qualified defenseman Ville Pokka
ikeane
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Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
Powers:

The #Blackhawks have qualified defenseman Ville Pokka

- walleyeb1

TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:27 PM ET
Not only that, create space and push people the (frank) out of the way. But yeah wolf, you're spot on. And that's a matchup problem if he is added to the top 6.
- 93Joe

especially if you're a woman. allegedly.

TTtime
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Jun 25 @ 5:28 PM ET
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The #Blackhawks have qualified defenseman Ville Pokka

- walleyeb1

Any chance they missed Jurco? *crosses fingers*

Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 25 @ 5:31 PM ET
Because being a captain of a junior team
Makes him a great player? Really? Ok.

Same guy who bashed mcdavid who just won the Lindsay hart and Ross.

Sorry. Hammer is a better player then Murphy. And I can't wait until people start crying about the hawks d in November.

- SteveRain


Actually he was Captain of Team USA at the 2017 World Championships which occurred after the NHL regular season. You know the same World Championships that Panarin loves to play in. Lots of NHLers.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
especially if you're a woman. allegedly.
- TTtime

TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
I will always appreciate Nik's contributions to 3 Cups. Especially being part of the incredible performance in 15 along with Keith, Seabs and Oduya. The reality is his play has fallen. He also really dragged Keith down. I haven't seen much of Murphy but it sure seemed like he played well against the Hawks. From what I HAVE seen of him is he will offer more in a push the pace type of style. He also has a physical edge to him.

Panarin and Saad are both excellent players who bring different attributes to a team.
Panarin was a joy to watch but I would be lying if his performance in the PO didn't leave me a bit irritated. He also had some serious Versteeg in him around his own blue line.

Saad bring a more complete game and the ability to play the PK. Which the Hawks need with the loss of Hossa.

I think its a trade where both teams got something they need.

Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
JJ - any update or news at all regarding any Hawks interest in Spencer Foo who is a College FA that tore it up at Union and is the brother of Parker Foo drafted by Hawks yesterday. He is supposed to be making a decision soon.
matt_ahrens
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Jun 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
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- walleyeb1


oh yeah, forgot that there a few other guys in the system that need QA's too. Assuming / hoping Ras gets one or they sign him today.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:42 PM ET
Thornton will stay in San Jose. I don't see him leaving.
- DarthKane


...and IMO if Thornton were "Cup hunting" he has better options than next years Hawks club.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
oh yeah, forgot that there a few other guys in the system that need QA's too. Assuming / hoping Ras gets one or they sign him today.
- matt_ahrens

Thought I read somewhere he has been offered a contract. Not sure if that satisfy the QO requirements, though.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
...and IMO if Thornton were "Cup hunting" he has better options than next years Hawks club.
- ArlingtonRob

Shocking.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
i thank Hjammer for the years in chicago, but those were hard, hard minutes on his body... and we could not afford him in 2 more years. Couldn't afford Panarin's raise either. Good moves.

For Kruger to Vegas (if that's where he goes), I want William Karlsson back. gives us another penalty killer with a little nasty in him.

Then AA to wherever for picks to open up cap space and let schmaltz move to 2c.

- jt19



I'd be shocked if the Hawks get more than a draft pick for Vegas taking Kruger.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:46 PM ET
Shocking.
- TTtime


I take it you disagree...
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