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Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
So you move scoring for upgraded D and then you have no scoring. We need to move Mouslon, Gorges and maybe a few other to rid us of the bad contracts. July 1st may help us out if they can sign a D man but, where do Bogo and Gorges play ? Not that I want gorges in the lineup.
- SABRES 89



Yes you move one we don't have the other. Hence we are a couple years away. Why you just play Bailey and others on the top line, lose, draft another difference maker until nylander and middlestadt are ready.

No need to buy molson or gorges out this year. Why carry their salary and buyout into extra years when gorges is gone next year and molsons contract is shorter.

Botterill is not playing for this year. His own words and draft show that
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
Wrong again, but keep trying.
- SABRES 89


History doesn't lie
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:00 PM ET
hey look we didnt trade for neal and a d-man
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
Yes you move one we don't have the other. Hence we are a couple years away. Why you just play Bailey and others on the top line, lose, draft another difference maker until nylander and middlestadt are ready.

No need to buy molson or gorges out this year. Why carry their salary and buyout into extra years when gorges is gone next year and molsons contract is shorter.

Botterill is not playing for this year. His own words and draft show that

- Fattony1187

Never said bury Moulson and Gorges matter of fact I said before the draft they would not do that. They aren't going to lose and draft in the top 8 again next year, no way Pegula will allow that after what just happened over the last 2 years. I'm not saying they will go all out because from what I was told, Botterill will be patient and I've been saying that for a few days now.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
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one of the reasons i wanted to trade down as well
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
History doesn't lie
- doppelthat

Everytime you post and here and i'm on here you run your mouth about me, don't have that problem with anyone but you, so opinions vary and you're right history doesn't lie. when you post it's the same crap with you with me.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Never said bury Moulson and Gorges matter of fact I said before the draft they would not do that. They aren't going to lose and draft in the top 8 again next year, no way Pegula will allow that after what just happened over the last 2 years. I'm not saying they will go all out because from what I was told, Botterill will be patient and I've been saying that for a few days now.
- SABRES 89



Who said anything about "bury". You said we should buy them out I said why it's dumb this year
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
also hes definitely not 5'9 and 130 if thats what has some people worried
- Sabresfan-365


I'm just glad we have an easy, go-to smartass phrase for this guy.
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:08 PM ET
Who said anything about "bury". You said we should buy them out I said why it's dumb this year
- Fattony1187

Never said buy out, go back and read it, I said get rid of but that's not gonna happen. You can move them if you add a sweetener to move them but we aren't in the position to do that.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
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TRADE:

To #Sharks:
2017 6th RD pick (185th overall)

To #Devils:
2017 8th RD pick (205th overall)
2017 8th RD pick (214th overall)

There's 8 rounds again? lmao

- chilliard77


Look at those numbers one more time.

The only way there's 8 rounds is if they skip the 7th round.
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:13 PM ET
Look at those numbers one more time.

The only way there's 8 rounds is if they skip the 7th round.

- Wetbandit1

Do you know where the Shattenkirk talk involving the Sabres was coming from ? that would be a huge mistake IMO, I was reading his looking for 7 mill a year.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 24 @ 5:13 PM ET
Never said buy out, go back and read it, I said get rid of but that's not gonna happen. You can move them if you add a sweetener to move them but we aren't in the position to do that.
- SABRES 89



And I never said bury. No one is trading for moulson. Only way out is a buyout
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 24 @ 5:13 PM ET
Never said buy out, go back and read it, I said get rid of but that's not gonna happen. You can move them if you add a sweetener to move them but we aren't in the position to do that.
- SABRES 89


Yeah, seeing Moulson, Ennis and Bogo start the season with Sabres (or IR) might be kinda disappointing.
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:15 PM ET
And I never said bury. No one is trading for moulson. Only way out is a buyout
- Fattony1187

Sure you can, like I said add a pick or a prospect and you can to a team that has the room. However we aren't in that position to do that.
SABRES 89
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Jun 24 @ 5:16 PM ET
Yeah, seeing Moulson, Ennis and Bogo start the season with Sabres (or IR) might be kinda disappointing.
- PrinceChill

It kind of limits us in certain area's.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:18 PM ET
Everytime you post and here and i'm on here you run your mouth about me, don't have that problem with anyone but you, so opinions vary and you're right history doesn't lie. when you post it's the same crap with you with me.
- SABRES 89

Listen, all I said today was some players would step into Kane or Reinharts role if they departed. All of a sudden I'm an idiot, I don't watch hockey, and I have never seen these playears play. So of course I'm going to have some fun with you. How about disagree with me respectfully and the same will be returned.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
Look at those numbers one more time.

The only way there's 8 rounds is if they skip the 7th round.

- Wetbandit1

It was already established that I was being a smartass lol
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
I'm as big a Fasching basher as anyone on here

He's good around the net, so he should be able to score goals
The think that could hold him back is his skating
It has gotten much better though

If he continues to work at it, he could be 3rd liner that scores 15+ goals
Maybe more if he gets PP time
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
Who said anything about 6 7 mill a year players in the top 6, I didn't, problem is our players in the AHL are not making strides. What scrub is Crosby playing with ?
- SABRES 89


Chris Kunitz, Connor Sheary. Not saying they're necessarily scrubs, but 1st liners they aren't either, and their numbers with Crosby are way above what they are without. As they should be Crosby is the best player of the last generation. The point is it doesn't matter who they play on Crosby's wing, that line will be fine and they can use a dirt cheap guy to put that money elsewhere, like Kessel on the 3rd line.
Wetbandit1
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Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
It was already established that I was being a smartass lol
- chilliard77


There was way too much to read.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:29 PM ET
Never said bury Moulson and Gorges matter of fact I said before the draft they would not do that. They aren't going to lose and draft in the top 8 again next year, no way Pegula will allow that after what just happened over the last 2 years. I'm not saying they will go all out because from what I was told, Botterill will be patient and I've been saying that for a few days now.
- SABRES 89



Seems like we are gonna go the UFA route for a defenseman
Wetbandit1
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Jun 24 @ 5:30 PM ET
The point i would make here is that the lists we get are not the same as the lists some teams have. His report reads well, i dont think he would have gone that late and so it doesnt surprise me that we took a chance on him.

success rate between round 3-4 or 5 isnt too far off. if you think this is one of the few guys who can turn into a success as a round 3-7 pick its worth it. The risk vs reward is minimal.

If they had taken him 31st thatd be kinda nuts.

edit: davidsson just kinda reminds me of asplund

- Sabresfan-365


Pretty much after pick 14 or 15 you're rolling the dice. That's the big cliff in talent, generally speaking.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
It kind of limits us in certain area's.
- SABRES 89


Specifically, the area of being a better hockey team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Chris Kunitz, Connor Sheary. Not saying they're necessarily scrubs, but 1st liners they aren't either, and their numbers with Crosby are way above what they are without. As they should be Crosby is the best player of the last generation. The point is it doesn't matter who they play on Crosby's wing, that line will be fine and they can use a dirt cheap guy to put that money elsewhere, like Kessel on the 3rd line.
- Wetbandit1




I could see Bailey & Baptiste being our versions of Sheary & Rust
But they've gotta play with a good center

That's why I keep pushing to move Sam to 3C
I think wingers would be more productive with him,
as opposed to Larsson or Girgs

And I'm pretty confident that Jack will produce just fine w/out Reinhart
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:34 PM ET
The point i would make here is that the lists we get are not the same as the lists some teams have. His report reads well, i dont think he would have gone that late and so it doesnt surprise me that we took a chance on him.

success rate between round 3-4 or 5 isnt too far off. if you think this is one of the few guys who can turn into a success as a round 3-7 pick its worth it. The risk vs reward is minimal.

If they had taken him 31st thatd be kinda nuts.

edit: davidsson just kinda reminds me of asplund

- Sabresfan-365


That makes sense at least about the success rate in rounds NOT 1 or 2. Just seemed like a puzzling pick considering Farrance and Rathbone were still available. I hope they are right, as many have said they are the pro scouts and I am the amateur spectator.
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