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fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
Dude, come on. This is getting ridiculous

He was thrown out of the Winnipeg locker room, by another black man in Byfuglien.

Are there "Byfuglien is a cancer rumors?"

Stop absolving Kane of any blame. He's a jackass. Black or white

- sbroads24


I'm waiting for the n-word out of you ..... come on . I KNOW it's in you.
sabreswarpath
Joined: 10.09.2008

Jun 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
Another day has passed and I'm feeling even worse about the GMTM firing. Heard the post draft presser wrap up and the questions Hamster and Harrington were asking sounded like they could smell blood in the water. Everything is awesome with this guy. Hopefully he is better at talking with other GM's than he is to reporters, but that is doubtful considering the lackluster weekend. GMTM was like Bill Clinton when it came to that. His brashness was a breath of fresh air. Moulson would be in Vegas right now.

Maybe Botts will get us Anisimov. That would be awesome. Not. Bills TC can't get here soon enough.

- Hatboro_Swords


WTF are you listening to..Hamilton asked a few questions about they liked about 3rd round pick, and Harrington embarrassed himself asking question about wether they scout Penn State more because TP ties, which GMJB almost laughed at....What did u want to happen , and Molson would be in Vegas if we paid the price the other did (1st round pick) or more, thank god he did not do that...I liked GMTM but give this guy a chance. Its almost as if you are trolling us , if you are bravo.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:41 PM ET
Byfuglien comes from a small, 97% white border town of 2,000 people in north Minnesota. He is what white people want blacks men to be. Soft-spoken, educated, complacent and unaccepting of your own kind, raised in small-town America by white people.

Kane come from a family of jocks and athletes, in a predominantly more diverse area (Vancouver) which is basically the LA of Canada, got a huge contract at a young age and acted just like any other stupid 21 year old kid who got a huge pay day but still has a black identity.

There are a lot of subtle narratives between the two.

- BeadyEyedDouche

There is one big difference

Kane is a jack ass
Byfuglien is not

That's why one is viewed as a leader, one is viewed as a ....jack ass
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yep, hockey is a racist sport and some of the most racist countries are homogenous like Eastern European like Russia and Nordic like Sweden and Finland; Canada and the US within the Hockey mom and dad's bubble are homogenous as well. I used to teach Engish to Polish immigrants and never heard such blatant racism and I'm going to guess neighbor Russia is similar in their beliefs.

Anyway, I'm sure Kane is no saint but neither are many other players in those locker rooms they just have less melanin.

- GilPerreault11


Yeah, I'm saying, Kane may be a giant d-bag and has done some questionable things but they pale in comparison to come of his pasty contemporaries.

And absolutely, Eastern Europeans are the worst. They exude racism.

America and Canada are better but we still have a long way to go and it doesn't help that Hockey is a middle and upper-class sport to begin with, so it will always be predominantly white, country bumpkin types from rural Canada and segregated America.

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yeah, I'm saying, Kane may be a giant d-bag and has done some questionable things but they pale in comparison to come of his pasty contemporaries.

And absolutely, Eastern Europeans are the worst. They exude racism.

America and Canada are better but we still have a long way to go and it doesn't help that Hockey is a middle and upper-class sport to begin with, so it will always be predominantly white, country bumpkin types from rural Canada and segregated America.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Exactly
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
There is one. If difference

Kane is a jack ass
Byfuglien is not

That's why one is viewed as a leader, one is viewed as a ....jack ass

- sbroads24


Yeah, hazing the only other black guy on your team by throwing his clothing into the showers, flipping him off to his face when he greets you, constantly bad-mouthing him and refusing to try and be a mentor is sure leadership.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
Yeah, I'm saying, Kane may be a giant d-bag and has done some questionable things but they pale in comparison to come of his pasty contemporaries.

And absolutely, Eastern Europeans are the worst. They exude racism.

America and Canada are better but we still have a long way to go and it doesn't help that Hockey is a middle and upper-class sport to begin with, so it will always be predominantly white, country bumpkin types from rural Canada and segregated America.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Eichel might be a big jack ass

But Eichel is also worth the headache.

43 points is not
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
Anyone should.

Within a year David Poile was able to get a #1 D man and #1 center.

That's a helluva job

- sbroads24

One day things may fall in our favor.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm waiting for the n-word out of you ..... come on . I KNOW it's in you.
- fastek


Shh! The new code-word is "thug". That's become the synonym for that word which will not be spoken.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 1:48 PM ET
Eichel might be a big jack ass

But Eichel is also worth the headache.

43 points is not

- sbroads24


Eichel, the recently labelled GM/Coach killer who has yet to crack 60 points? Don't you dare use injuries as an excuse here.

Kane has scored 30 goals in a season. Jack hasn't. So there's that.

And plus, Jack drinks Bud Light. He 100% is a jack-ass.

Either way, I get no headache from Kane, only from his constant detractors.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:49 PM ET
Eichel, the recently labelled GM/Coach killer who has yet to crack 60 points? Don't you dare use injuries as an excuse here.

Kane has scored 30 goals in a season. Jack hasn't. So there's that.

And plus, Jack drinks Bud Light. He 100% is a jack-ass.

Either way, I get no headache from Kane, only from his constant detractors.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Are you seriously trying to say Kane is better or even close to as good as Jack freaking Eichel ???
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:51 PM ET
Yeah, hazing the only other black guy on your team by throwing his clothing into the showers, flipping him off to his face when he greets you, constantly bad-mouthing him and refusing to try and be a mentor is sure leadership.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I was told before that they don't want to move Kane but Pegula was pissed at what happened before with Kane, not anything with the Jets. Botterill is not " married " to any of these players like Murray was so anything can happen now but last I was told they aren't looking to move him.

What Big Buff did in Winnipeg was a little foolish if you ask me, take Kane and help him learn, not make sure he fails. From a personal standpoint, Kane seems to have learned from his mistakes it may be taking some time but he is learning.

LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:03 PM ET
I was told before that they don't want to move Kane but Pegula was pissed at what happened before with Kane, not anything with the Jets. Botterill is not " married " to any of these players like Murray was so anything can happen now but last I was told they aren't looking to move him.

What Big Buff did in Winnipeg was a little foolish if you ask me, take Kane and help him learn, not make sure he fails. From a personal standpoint, Kane seems to have learned from his mistakes it may be taking some time but he is learning.

- SABRES 89

Nice post.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
Shh! The new code-word is "thug". That's become the synonym for that word which will not be spoken.
- BeadyEyedDouche


10-4
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
Are you seriously trying to say Kane is better or even close to as good as Jack freaking Eichel ???
- sbroads24


Not even close to what I was saying.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
I was told before that they don't want to move Kane but Pegula was pissed at what happened before with Kane, not anything with the Jets. Botterill is not " married " to any of these players like Murray was so anything can happen now but last I was told they aren't looking to move him.

What Big Buff did in Winnipeg was a little foolish if you ask me, take Kane and help him learn, not make sure he fails. From a personal standpoint, Kane seems to have learned from his mistakes it may be taking some time but he is learning.

- SABRES 89


Again, he's now only 25? It took me until my late 20's to chill the (frank) out, especially with enablers and no guidance from an older/wiser figure.

Absolutely, I think it speaks more that Byfuglien, this universally praised player for his leadership and ability, treated a younger person on the roster so terribly instead of trying to guide him or chalk it up to "HE IS LITERALLY 21 YEARS OLD" and all 21 year olds are LITERALLY morons.

I think Kane has shown a lot of growth since being here. I'd resign him 5x5 no issues but not a penny more or a year longer barring a breakout season.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
Anyone should.

Within a year David Poile was able to get a #1 D man and #1 center.

That's a helluva job

- sbroads24


Before we canonize Poile, it wasn't like he turned water into wine.

It was more like turning wine into wine.

He already had what many GM's considered as a number 1 Dman in Weber, and he took a quality young, highly thought of, cost controlled D man in Jones and used that to get a player that had seriously fallen out of favor in Columbus.

He did a good job, but sure had the proper ammo to use.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
10-4
- fastek

Remember when the cb radio craze enthralled the world back in the last century? What a hoot that was. Not.
Sabres came close for a while there with Perreault, Gare, McKegney, and Edwards/Sauve.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
Again, he's now only 25? It took me until my late 20's to chill the (frank) out, especially with enablers and no guidance from an older/wiser figure.

Absolutely, I think it speaks more that Byfuglien, this universally praised player for his leadership and ability, treated a younger person on the roster so terribly instead of trying to guide him or chalk it up to "HE IS LITERALLY 21 YEARS OLD" and all 21 year olds are LITERALLY morons.

I think Kane has shown a lot of growth since being here. I'd resign him 5x5 no issues but not a penny more or a year longer barring a breakout season.

- BeadyEyedDouche

It wasn't just Byfuglien. It was there locker room.

I'm not gonna argue that other players aren't jack asses. They are.

Pat Kane is an awful douchey person. Pat Kane is also an MVP caliber player.

It's simple math

Pat Kane's production + Stanley cups + being a jackass means no one cares

Evander Kane's production + never even playing a meaningful game+ being a jackass= being traded
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Dude, come on. This is getting ridiculous

He was thrown out of the Winnipeg locker room, by another black man in Byfuglien.

Are there "Byfuglien is a cancer rumors?"

Stop absolving Kane of any blame. He's a jackass. Black or white

- sbroads24

Dude, come on. This is getting ridiculous

He was thrown out of the Winnipeg locker room, by another black man in Byfuglien.

Are there "Byfuglien is a cancer rumors?"

Stop absolvting Kane of any blame. He's a jackass. Black or white

- sbroads24

Agreed Broads. How can the race card be played when Byfuglien appeared to be the player who has had the most difficulty dealing with his antics?

The way I remember it went like this:
-2 seasons ago Kane was very frustrating to watch. I couldn't stand watching him shoot the puck what seemed to be almost every time he had the puck. Dude was a complete black hole, no pun intended. On top of that he missed the net way too much for my liking. I think it would be crazy to think players don't take notice to that. And when the dude passed the puck it was inaccurate or unhandleable. No touch.
- Last off season the distractions started piling on. F this guy, get rid of him, whatever you can get. GMTM didn't. A true test of fortitude and he stayed the course. 1000 points of light.
- Last season he gets hurt and it's like oh great now he's untradeable. He gets back and it's like whoa.
Stats guys will tell you his shooting percentage is unsustainable, and they could be right. I'm willing to take a chance.

That is why I have been the first and only advocate of letting him play out his contract. I'll take what seems to be a good probability he'll have a close to career year in contract year. Sabres good, keep hm for playoff push, bad and he's good, deadline. Foolish to get rid of so many goals without as many coming back in.

Track, wall, Seeeee ya
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Shh! The new code-word is "thug". That's become the synonym for that word which will not be spoken.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Yahtzee!
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Again, he's now only 25? It took me until my late 20's to chill the (frank) out, especially with enablers and no guidance from an older/wiser figure.

Absolutely, I think it speaks more that Byfuglien, this universally praised player for his leadership and ability, treated a younger person on the roster so terribly instead of trying to guide him or chalk it up to "HE IS LITERALLY 21 YEARS OLD" and all 21 year olds are LITERALLY morons.

I think Kane has shown a lot of growth since being here. I'd resign him 5x5 no issues but not a penny more or a year longer barring a breakout season.

- BeadyEyedDouche

A leader leads and Buff wears an A, you wear that A on and off the ice with young players and what he did is not being a leader. I'm sure Kane can bare some responsibility also however Big Buff a a leader that players look up to and he did not do anything to show he's a leader off the ice.

The talk should be working out a deal to resign Kane not keep looking t move him. I was told that in July sometime Kane and his agent will meet with the Sabres brass to start gauging interest.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Before we canonize Poile, it wasn't like he turned water into wine.

It was more like turning wine into wine.

He already had what many GM's considered as a number 1 Dman in Weber, and he took a quality young, highly thought of, cost controlled D man in Jones and used that to get a player that had seriously fallen out of favor in Columbus.

He did a good job, but sure had the proper ammo to use.

- kingcong39

Ok, but those were players he drafted, and turned them into players that fit better.

Trading Shea Weber for Subban deserves every ounce of praise he gets
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Ok, but those were players he drafted, and turned them into players that fit better.

Trading Shea Weber for Subban deserves every ounce of praise he gets

- sbroads24


Credit for drafting who he traded and for taking advantage of two dumb GM's.

But again, it's not like he turned B or C level players into A level players.

Comparable moves for Buffalo would be like trading Risto for Trouba if Buffalo had an already stacked defense, and trading Risto for...I have no idea regarding a center like Ryan Jo.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Before we canonize Poile, it wasn't like he turned water into wine.

It was more like turning wine into wine.

He already had what many GM's considered as a number 1 Dman in Weber, and he took a quality young, highly thought of, cost controlled D man in Jones and used that to get a player that had seriously fallen out of favor in Columbus.

He did a good job, but sure had the proper ammo to use.

- kingcong39


Think Vessey regrets his veto of Nashville now ?
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