Any word on $ Jumbo is looking for? If Stan can get Buffalo to retain 50% of EK's salary, they could afford Jumbo at a certain price.

Saad/Toews/Panik
Kane/Jumbo/Kane

Could be a lethal top 2 lines then go get Tom Wilson
- Assman22

Have to agree

Big Question - who's going to Left Wing? Only Saad at this Point.

Could we move Anismov and Kruger to Buffalo for Kane and Falk

Yea. I don't think this team is where Stan wants it yet. I said after the year I'm giving him the summer. The first two moves are interesting steps, potentially WINS, but could also backfire. But losing Krugs (if), Hossa, and Hammer as JJ said subtracts a TON of heart of this team.

I still want another center (whether AA is moved or not) to WIN faceoffs and give third line help (Do NOT want both AA and Schmaltz playing center, they both suck at faceoffs, but we could use 1 there. So if AA is moved then I'd roll Schmatlz to C), another D-man (does NOT necessarily be a star, just a solid 4/5 type) and a top 6 winger. Yea, that's asking for the moon I guess, but it's what I think they need to compete for the Cup.
- kwolf68

I don't think that these moves are going to backfire too much. In terms of character guys you still have Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford who all have perspective on how things were and how things are now.

Honestly, I wouldn't be mad at a Sharp for no more than 1 million. Marleau I think would be an interesting fit. He lost a step but still banged in 27 goals last year playing primarily 3rd line center. He can kill penalties and is good at the dot and plays hard. Plus you get another veteran who has had an excellent career yet the Cup has eluded him. And a guy who can probably be a good mentor for Schmalz.

If you take a fly on a veteran I think it is Thornton but they could do worse than Marleau. Especially with the loss of Hossa and especially if they move AA.

I still think you move Kooga and that salary and probably AA if there is a deal to be had there but they will need to add some kind of veteran savvy. Heck adding both of Marleau and Thornton for a combined 6 million would be a solid way to back fill production with guys who are desperate to win now.

And if they shed the Hossa hit, in two years they ought to be in a position to reload and take one last shot with Kane and Toews being the centerpieces.

Have to agree

Big Question - who's going to Left Wing? Only Saad at this Point.

Could we move Anismov and Kruger to Buffalo for Kane and Falk
- Colbyboy

If you move Kooga and AA you're going to need to get a center, preferably one with some jam and one that can eat PK minutes.

From the perspective of teams playing you, it doesn't even seem close. If you ignore contracts, ignore how good they'll be and if they'll be playing for the Hawks in 3 years, and are just talking about the people who will be on the ice next season, wouldn't most Hawks fans agree:

Hossa, Panarin, Kruger > Saad, Dauphin
Hjalmarsson, TVR > Murphy
Darlng > Forberg

I understand Hawks fans being happy with the moves, some of your loses were out of your control and happening regardless. But right now, Hawks look significantly weaker than last years team, and just made a bunch of rebuild on the fly type moves that set them up for down the road.
- Antilles

OH good, blues fanboys back today.
I guess the "golden era" of Blows hockey is now dead. No more Backes, Jackassman, Ott, reaves, etc... Your head must still be spinning counting all those Cup wins.
Oh wait....

If you move Kooga and AA you're going to need to get a center, preferably one with some jam and one that can eat PK minutes.
- fattybeef

I think Kero has that ability. He looked solid when he came up.

No he said "word IN Chicago" the bidding is on.
- kwolf68

(frank) man. Maybe I should learn to read...


My fault people.

Jakub Galvas is a very nice pick.

I thought I read about a week ago that the Hawks were around $3M over the cap. I'm not sure if that was before or after the official announcement that the Cap is going to be $75M. Even so, the Hawks are over the Cap - either around $3M or around $1.5M. The Saad/Panarin trade is a wash regarding the Cap and the Hjalmarsson/Murphy trade only reduces the Hawks Cap hit by less then $0.5M ... so they're still over the Cap.

The rumored trade of Kruger will eliminate his $3.1M from the Cap but there has to be a player added in his roster spot so the very most the Hawks will net in Cap space reduction is less than $2.5M. That should get them under the Cap, but not by much ... and certainly not by enough to acquire Duchene or Galchenyuk.

Therefore, unless Stan pulls off something totally unforeseen, he will need to trade Kruger and Anisimov to have the Cap space to acquire one of these players being discussed - E.Kane, Duchene, Galchenyuk, Neal.

And then there is the d-corps ... is Keith, Seabrook and Murphy a good enough top-3 to support a bottom-3 of Kempny, Forsling, Ruuta and Rozsival. Yikes!

Hawks are NOT in on Duchene................
- bonecrusher27

I know man...I made a mistake. I read the home page like an imbecile

I thought I read about a week ago that the Hawks were around $3M over the cap. I'm not sure if that was before or after the official announcement that the Cap is going to be $75M. Even so, the Hawks are over the Cap - either around $3M or around $1.5M. The Saad/Panarin trade is a wash regarding the Cap and the Hjalmarsson/Murphy trade only reduces the Hawks Cap hit by less then $0.5M ... so they're still over the Cap.

The rumored trade of Kruger will eliminate his $3.1M from the Cap but there has to be a player added in his roster spot so the very most the Hawks will net in Cap space reduction is less than $2.5M. That should get them under the Cap, but not by much ... and certainly not by enough to acquire Duchene or Galchenyuk.

Therefore, unless Stan pulls off something totally unforeseen, he will need to trade Kruger and Anisimov to have the Cap space to acquire one of these players being discussed - E.Kane, Duchene, Galchenyuk, Neal.

And then there is the d-corps ... is Keith, Seabrook and Murphy a good enough top-3 to support a bottom-3 of Kempny, Forsling, Ruuta and Rozsival. Yikes!
- EbonyRaptor

Lots more to go this summer. Need a 3D IMO. Murphy cannot be expected to immediately back fill for Hammer.

After yesterday, I totally expect new 'Hawks players to come are a surprise, just like yesterday. After the CbJ trade, seems like Duchene will 100% be elsewhere. Then with Hammer going, what tiny chance of moving Seabs went out the window.

Regardless of what happens, Duncs and Seabs have their hands full.

(frank) man. Maybe I should learn to read...


My fault people.
- 93Joe

No biggie. A Duchene move went away with Saad/Murphy deals (roster top-heaviness, cap-wise). JMO.

Does this give us the inside track on signing his brother, a highly sought after college free agent??
- 67hawks

I should know this but don't. Thanks for the scoop....... Indeed he has a brother named Spencer, 23 yrs old, at Union College who put up a ton of points last year: http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=107388

Now it looks like Saad and AA for Panerin? Hmmmm, different way to look at it?

Dunno about you all but Im not overly worried about the D. Murphy is a monster stay at home D and will be fine. Kempny and Rutta both have skill and were sought after players. Forsling is up and coming. Can see either Soup or JO coming back on a very cheap deal. D will be fine.

Get the forwards worked out. Its a team game. 5 playing together. Look at Pitt! No real stars on the blue line, but they played like a group possessed 5 on 5.

I thought I read about a week ago that the Hawks were around $3M over the cap. I'm not sure if that was before or after the official announcement that the Cap is going to be $75M. Even so, the Hawks are over the Cap - either around $3M or around $1.5M. The Saad/Panarin trade is a wash regarding the Cap and the Hjalmarsson/Murphy trade only reduces the Hawks Cap hit by less then $0.5M ... so they're still over the Cap.

The rumored trade of Kruger will eliminate his $3.1M from the Cap but there has to be a player added in his roster spot so the very most the Hawks will net in Cap space reduction is less than $2.5M. That should get them under the Cap, but not by much ... and certainly not by enough to acquire Duchene or Galchenyuk.

Therefore, unless Stan pulls off something totally unforeseen, he will need to trade Kruger and Anisimov to have the Cap space to acquire one of these players being discussed - E.Kane, Duchene, Galchenyuk, Neal.

And then there is the d-corps ... is Keith, Seabrook and Murphy a good enough top-3 to support a bottom-3 of Kempny, Forsling, Ruuta and Rozsival. Yikes!
- EbonyRaptor

Its not as easy as this but if played right, the Hawks have an 5M to spend with Hossa on LTIR for the season. So, the reality is Bowman can make pure hockey trades and not strictly cap dumps. Kruger is pretty much gone. Probably after the Hawks pay the bonus.

Jakub Galvas is a very nice pick.
- Return of the Roar

how so?

Dunno about you all but Im not overly worried about the D. Murphy is a monster stay at home D and will be fine. Kempny and Rutta both have skill and were sought after players. Forsling is up and coming. Can see either Soup or JO coming back on a very cheap deal. D will be fine.

Get the forwards worked out. Its a team game. 5 playing together. Look at Pitt! No real stars on the blue line, but they played like a group possessed 5 on 5.
- z1990z

I'd be interested in seeing if the Hawks could pull in Merrill from Vegas somehow. He's not offensively gifted, like Miller or Schmidt, but he's a workhorse who is a good shot suppressor at a hit of $1.14m. He'd likely take less to grab thanks to low offense, too.

Karlsson is the only other Vegas player that interesting for the Hawks. Don't get me wrong, others are good, but he's a good fit as center who can play LW, cheap, and has good size. Needs to work on his draws, though.

Have to agree

Big Question - who's going to Left Wing? Only Saad at this Point.

Could we move Anismov and Kruger to Buffalo for Kane and Falk
- Colbyboy

Rather keep Krugs in this scenario. Jurco, Schmaltz, Hayden all can play LW. Hartman is better on RW imo and didn't adjust too well to LW. If AA is moved to Buffalo for EK/50% retained salary and they retain Krugs, then Jumbo won't fit in the cap. Schmaltz would have to play up to 2C.
Saad/Toews/Panik
Kane/Schmaltz/Kane
Jurco/Kruger/Hartman
Hayden/Kero/Tootoo or Wingels

Dunno about you all but Im not overly worried about the D. Murphy is a monster stay at home D and will be fine. Kempny and Rutta both have skill and were sought after players. Forsling is up and coming. Can see either Soup or JO coming back on a very cheap deal. D will be fine.

Get the forwards worked out. Its a team game. 5 playing together. Look at Pitt! No real stars on the blue line, but they played like a group possessed 5 on 5.
- z1990z

i can give you a great deal on a championship winning ron hainsey if you'd like.

Whatever happened to that deal that had us exposing TVR so that LV could claim him and then we flip Krug for a D from LV.....was it not like a given at one time?

Now, crickets???

Q at the Montreal table

Whatever happened to that deal that had us exposing TVR so that LV could claim him and then we flip Krug for a D from LV.....was it not like a given at one time?

Now, crickets???


- Hawkster

It was a pick and Kruger isn't going anywhere until the Hawks pay his 2M bonus.

Q at the Montreal table
- Dabearshawks

Maybe they have poutine there.

From the perspective of teams playing you, it doesn't even seem close. If you ignore contracts, ignore how good they'll be and if they'll be playing for the Hawks in 3 years, and are just talking about the people who will be on the ice next season, wouldn't most Hawks fans agree:

Hossa, Panarin, Kruger > Saad, Dauphin
Hjalmarsson, TVR > Murphy
Darlng > Forberg

I understand Hawks fans being happy with the moves, some of your loses were out of your control and happening regardless. But right now, Hawks look significantly weaker than last years team, and just made a bunch of rebuild on the fly type moves that set them up for down the road.
- Antilles

Perhaps you missed the Rutta, Kempny, and Raddysh signings... Understandable, as the Blues don't have the budget.

I'd be interested in seeing if the Hawks could pull in Merrill from Vegas somehow. He's not offensively gifted, like Miller or Schmidt, but he's a workhorse who is a good shot suppressor at a hit of $1.14m. He'd likely take less to grab thanks to low offense, too.

Karlsson is the only other Vegas player that interesting for the Hawks. Don't get me wrong, others are good, but he's a good fit as center who can play LW, cheap, and has good size. Needs to work on his draws, though.
- L_B_R

A blue blood played for the powerhouse Little Ceasers program, 2 years with the NTDP, 3 full yrs at Michigan, a 2nd round NHL pick, and 200+ NHL games experience. ..... A Merrill type may fit: http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=20712