Schmidt is on Hawks wish list, FWIW
- John Jaeckel

I like Schmidt, but he's going to want a raise and he's been pretty sheltered as a d-man in Washington. I totally get it the want, but I wish they were looking at Merrill. He's less flashy, but he'll be cheaper and is the best shot suppressor of the Vegas d-men.

Its obvious you have not followed the Hawks and their cap history since 2010.
I suggest you do a little bit of research before opening your mouth and removing all doubt as to how clueless you are.

- mmurray892

I never comment, but you sir are a putz.

The other poster has a point. The question of "why is 6 mil a fair price now, and not then," is reasonable.

My interpretation:
1) salary cap increased over the past two seasons (paltry increases I know, but it did go up)
2) Toews struggled without him, and now Toews is also without Hossa

Had Tuevo been used as a sweetener earlier (in 2015 as opposed to 2016) to move the Bickell contract, we could have had a team that featured Saad and Panarin.

Especially if the difference between the Hawks offer and the Blue Jackets was only half a mill (5.5 as opposed to 6)

If Kruger is gone, Dauphin is likely in Chicago
- John Jaeckel

I'm super wary of this idea ngl. Dauphin hasn't shown he can drive possession at all, which is the most important facet of Kruger's role. Yes, Dauphin was on a bad team, but looking at just his individual micro stats is a bit worrisome. He seems more in line with a Rasmussen, a complimentary checking player, than a Kruger. However, he is only 22 and is reported to be hard working, so hopefully he'll make a believer out of me.

Its obvious you have not followed the Hawks and their cap history since 2010.
I suggest you do a little bit of research before opening your mouth and removing all doubt as to how clueless you are.

- mmurray892

Yes, I have followed them for years before 2010 and I understand the cap situation all too well. I actually didn't open my mouth at all... I was just typing out loud!!!

Yes, I have followed them for years before 2010 and I understand the cap situation all too well. I actually didn't open my mouth at all... I was just typing out loud!!!
- RedHandedJill

I'm super wary of this idea ngl. Dauphin hasn't shown he can drive possession at all, which is the most important facet of Kruger's role. Yes, Dauphin was on a bad team, but looking at just his individual micro stats is a bit worrisome. He seems more in line with a Rasmussen, a complimentary checking player, than a Kruger. However, he is only 22 and is reported to be hard working, so hopefully he'll make a believer out of me.
- L_B_R

This is why you need to see the players play. Dauphin is not Rasmussen.

Soooooo, is that it? no more trades today? Free agency starts in a week. I reckon there will be some trades before then; hopefully one or two by the Blackhawks. I'm curious to see what the roster looks like in a couple of weeks and then on opening day.

I never comment, but you sir are a putz.

The other poster has a point. The question of "why is 6 mil a fair price now, and not then," is reasonable.

My interpretation:
1) salary cap increased over the past two seasons (paltry increases I know, but it did go up)
2) Toews struggled without him, and now Toews is also without Hossa

Had Tuevo been used as a sweetener earlier (in 2015 as opposed to 2016) to move the Bickell contract, we could have had a team that featured Saad and Panarin.

Especially if the difference between the Hawks offer and the Blue Jackets was only half a mill (5.5 as opposed to 6)
- TexasHawk

You expanded on my thoughts and what I was trying convey. Thank you!

I never comment, but you sir are a putz.

The other poster has a point. The question of "why is 6 mil a fair price now, and not then," is reasonable.

My interpretation:
1) salary cap increased over the past two seasons (paltry increases I know, but it did go up)
2) Toews struggled without him, and now Toews is also without Hossa

Had Tuevo been used as a sweetener earlier (in 2015 as opposed to 2016) to move the Bickell contract, we could have had a team that featured Saad and Panarin.

Especially if the difference between the Hawks offer and the Blue Jackets was only half a mill (5.5 as opposed to 6)
- TexasHawk

Yes, and I'd add that, once again, "fair price" is not enough to make a decision with a cap, the contract has to fit the team salary structure. Saad's contract didn't then but it does now.

This is why you need to see the players play. Dauphin is not Rasmussen.
- John Jaeckel

I have seen Dauphin play a bit now - I've been looking over the tracked Coyotes games last season with him in it. Could always stand to see more, though. ftr I'm not saying he is Rasmussen, I'm saying on the Yotes he came off more like a Rasmussen-type. Again, being on a bad team and different type of system likely played into that. He's got the tools and supposedly the attitude. I mean, look at Desjardins in 2015 - he was used as a Carcillo type on the Sharks, but he bloomed in the Hawks system.

It's why they got ....

(Wait for it)

Dauphin
- John Jaeckel

Tippet apparently didn't like Dauphin. Will Q?

I do not understand how Stan makes an AHole move by extended Panarin in April/May at a good price and trading him 2 months later!!!
I don't know why we traded Saad in the first place?! Aren't they now going to pay him $$$ that he wanted when they traded him

EDIT: Anyone?
- RedHandedJill

Panarin was one of the assets he could get value from. If he had signed a deal with term rather than a 2 year bridge to UFA the trade may not have happened. Hammer was also UFA in 2 years. Cost control.

Yes, I have followed them for years before 2010 and I understand the cap situation all too well. I actually didn't open my mouth at all... I was just typing out loud!!!
- RedHandedJill

Now it looks like Saad and AA for Panerin? Hmmmm, different way to look at it?
- wonthecup10

Not to pick on you since several have said this, but if the Hawks started with Saad and Panarin as Hawk assets and wound up with Saad and Anisimov, they effectively netted out Panarin for Anisimov (and Panik if we are feeling generous and tracking assets down the line).

Using the google machine, he's a college bound (U of Denver) Canadian kid who was playing, and excelling in the Alberta Junior Hockey League. The AJHL is in the Canadian Junior A circuit which is a level that allows Canadian kids the option of moving to the NCAA in the states.

Just turned 18, right handed shooting defenseman, still needs to develop physically. Sounds like a typical Hawks pick...College bound player with upside that we can all watch develop, and the Hawks control for years.

http://thehockeywriters.c...l-draft-prospect-profile/
- ArlingtonRob

Thanks, Rob.......... Love reading things like head up, keeps shot low, gets shot through, mobile about a prospect. Screams IQ and if you're smart with mobility you can make things happen. AJHL is a very solid league and if he's the #2 Dman behind maker out of that league he's solid...... Add he was rostered and played well in the Ivan Hlinka tournament, same for the WJC U-18 tournament and the kid has been highly thought of for awhile. That he's a right shot is always good.

Q at the Montreal table
- Dabearshawks

He's interviewing.

It's why they got ....

(Wait for it)

Dauphin
- John Jaeckel

Why not have both?

Gary "Shecky" Bettman seems to love being MC. Catch the comment to Kane and Toews at the end about how they will now enjoy road trips referring to Vegas.

https://www.nhl.com/video...up/t-288687876/c-52326903
- riozzo

So bored...


come on Stan....

Tom Wilson

If they could add another solid vet at a decent cost but I would want someone under 30 who can eat minutes and not a lot of names out there like that. Hard to do. I wouldn't want a name like Hainsey unless they were taking Rosi's spot.

I'm hoping that Ulf signals a shift towards getting these younger guys a serious chance to develop. They will make mistakes and it will cost them games but that has to be expected. Better to learn who has it in the first half of the season. There is no question this is now a transition year and it will be a huge surprise if they have the best record in the west again. However, if you see some of last year's crop take the next step and add a few pleasant surprises (Debrincat and one of the new d signings would be nice.) you can probably make a splash in the playoffs and set up for 19. If Q has guys like Rosi and Campbell taking mins from guys who need TOI to develop you're setting up for another fall.
- tredbrta

This will be interesting to watch play out. You make a good point about a vet taking developmental minutes from a Forsling or Ruuta. Few ways to go.

Add a cheap journeyman to be a bottom pairing guy or a #4 in case the newbies are in over their heads. Oduya/Campbell that guy?

Open camp with Kempny, Ruuta and Forsling/Gus and if that's not gonna work trade for a serviceable bottom pairing guy.

No doubt the defense today has questions or can be termed scary but that doesn't mean it will fail either..... I think StanBowPops&McD will spread the risk as best they can but at the same time a couple green guys have to get the experience.

He has a lot of talent and was really fun to cheer for. I like the trade but I'll miss Panarin. The only two yellow flags I saw with him was that it seemed like he let up some right after he signed his extension. (Not unusual.) And didn't he say that he was tired in the playoffs? Maybe that is him still getting adjusted to the NA schedule. I expect him to continue to play at a high level and figure out how to better prepare for the playoffs. Good luck to him in the world of Torts.
- matt_ahrens

Me too. Kid was a real find and an electrifying player for the Hawks. He'll be missed but I both understand and like the trade for both sides...... I guess I have to say the Bjax are my #2 team as I watch at least parts of every one of their games. Never a boring game cuz they are so physical now add a difference making offensive player to a defense with Jones and Werenski who can trigger offense from the backend and they might have added the missing piece. A fun team to watch just got dangerous.

I like Schmidt, but he's going to want a raise and he's been pretty sheltered as a d-man in Washington. I totally get it the want, but I wish they were looking at Merrill. He's less flashy, but he'll be cheaper and is the best shot suppressor of the Vegas d-men.
- L_B_R

Schmidt has been nice for a couple years. Think it was 2 yrs ago he was WSH #7 Dman and when he did get on the ice he showed a beautiful stride. ...... As mentioned earlier Merrill is the kind that can help the Hawks but think I read where Vegas has said they are hanging on to their young Dmen. You read that as well?

I'm super wary of this idea ngl. Dauphin hasn't shown he can drive possession at all, which is the most important facet of Kruger's role. Yes, Dauphin was on a bad team, but looking at just his individual micro stats is a bit worrisome. He seems more in line with a Rasmussen, a complimentary checking player, than a Kruger. However, he is only 22 and is reported to be hard working, so hopefully he'll make a believer out of me.
- L_B_R

One thing I always thought about Kruger was he was a plodder although effective. I see Dauphin as a much more explosive dynamic player with + speed.

This will be interesting to watch play out. You make a good point about a vet taking developmental minutes from a Forsling or Ruuta. Few ways to go.

Add a cheap journeyman to be a bottom pairing guy or a #4 in case the newbies are in over their heads. Oduya/Campbell that guy?

Open camp with Kempny, Ruuta and Forsling/Gus and if that's not gonna work trade for a serviceable bottom pairing guy.

No doubt the defense today has questions or can be termed scary but that doesn't mean it will fail either..... I think StanBowPops&McD will spread the risk as best they can but at the same time a couple green guys have to get the experience.
- Mr Ricochet

These guys (particularly Kempny) have the physical tools. Time to coach them up. Murphy needs it too. If it is going to be Campbell or Oduya let it be Oduya. Campbell is done defensively.... and let Ulf call the starters. Enough with this Rosi over Kempny garbage in the regular season. They also better make sure that Ruuta and Kempny are learning english. Never addressed the language issue aggressively enough with Panarin. Should be a priority that these guys can understand the coaches and teammates.