I'm not too familiar with him so I'll defer to you. I saw the trade and thought wow that's a heavy price to move up 9 spots in the 2nd. Since you saw him as a late 1st, I guess you're good with that price?
- five4fighting10

In some years, I would have been leery in giving up that much to move up in the 2nd round, but not this year. First off, like you said, I believe he is a legit late first round talent with a lot of potential and secondly, most of the scouts I trust for my info all feel that there is a sharp drop off in quality once you get past the first 40-50 guys in this draft so giving up the 3rd and 4th, especially while you still have picks in those rounds, matters little to me.

Here you go:


“Tall and gangly with lots of room to add muscle but his on-ice game is progressing at a very good clip this season. Skates better than you would expect a growing 6-6 kid too and has some real offensive potential. Dangerous anywhere around the crease.” –Dan Stewart (Future Considerations Scouting Director)

“The power forward who can skate and possesses very soft hands has been coming on lately. I think he’s underrated offensively in some circles. He’s a physical beast who can play a very mean game. Almost impossible to knock off the puck and uses his size and strength to maintain possession. Right now, he’s probably the best prospect in front of the goal, battling for space and loose pucks and banging in rebounds. We caught a glimpse of that in the Top Prospects game. The scary thought is he’s still going to grow and get stronger.” – Dominic Tiano, OHL Writers

“Had a very impressive Top Prospects game performance where he stood out for his size, offensive ability and his defensive play. While the NHL is allowing smaller skill players more regularly into the league, there will always be a preference to bigger players if all things are equal. Ratcliffe may not have elite hands for the NHL but he is more than adequate and skating is not a liability either. Already at 6-5 at 18-years-old he should project as an ideal power forward.” – Peter Harling
- BiggE

Tim kerr 2.0?

Oh, my word -- Ratcliffe/Patrick. Patrick will be passing to the left wing on his forehand...oh, my gosh. I am getting lightheaded

Come on, kid! Eat and work out! There is nothing else in your world!
- AllInForFlyers

I trust Provorov will have all these kids on a workout regimen soon!


Also take those 3 lines by 19-20 and add this top D to the mix:
Provorov-Myers
Sanheim-Gudas
Morin-Ghost
Hagg

In some years, I would have been leery in giving up that much to move up in the 2nd round, but not this year. First off, like you said, I believe he is a legit late first round talent with a lot of potential and secondly, most of the scouts I trust for my info all feel that there is a sharp drop off in quality once you get past the first 40-50 guys in this draft so giving up the 3rd and 4th, especially while you still have picks in those rounds, matters little to me.
- BiggE

Works for me, thanks. Just another benefit of Hextall stockpiling picks, enables you to possibly overpay in picks in order to get a prospect you love.

They may still be a bubble team next year boys, but in 2 or 3 years this team will be a contender.
- BiggE

You can see it, now -- yeah, all prospects are suspects until they make it. But Ghost and Provorov are already difference-makers, TK still has upside and looks/sounds like he truly wants to be a difference maker.

Giroux's decline should be offset by Patrick's rise, and Giroux is always gonna be able to quarterback a power play.

They are just drafting the kinds of kids that you can see making a difference in a few years if they are patient -- and they are

Tim kerr 2.0?
- JoeRussomanno

Well, he's a better skater than Kerr and 3 inches taller. However, I'm not sure if he will have the pure brute strength of Timmy (he was freakishly strong), nor the unbelievably quick release on his shot. However, if they end up not re-signing Simmonds, this guy could well be the net front replacement on the PP and a quality top 6 LW.

That being said, back to back to back to back years of 54, 54, 58, and 58 goals is pretty unlikely

I trust Provorov will have all these kids on a workout regimen soon!


Also take those 3 lines by 19-20 and add this top D to the mix:
Provorov-Myers
Sanheim-Gudas
Morin-Ghost
Hagg
- BiggE

They truly just need only one of Sanheim, Myers or Morin to excel. If the other two just do what they are projected to do, oh, my gosh.

I don't watch them play, just know what I hear from you guys and read. But it sure sounds like Sanheim is gonna be a difference-maker, at some point, and what I saw of Myers in the WJC before he got hurt was all good

Well, he's a better skater than Kerr and 3 inches taller. However, I'm not sure if he will have the pure brute strength of Timmy (he was freakishly strong), nor the unbelievably quick release on his shot. However, if they end up not re-signing Simmonds, this guy could well be the net front replacement on the PP and a quality top 6 LW.

That being said, back to back to back to back years of 54, 54, 58, and 58 goals is pretty unlikely


- BiggE

Tim Kerr was as lethal a goal-scorer for his era as that league has seen. If that kid is even half of that in two or three years, look out

I like the Schenn deal, it's smart asset management. I also think there is a legit chance that Lehtera or Read are moved in a deal to bring in a goalie.

So far, I'm very happy with what the Flyers have done at the draft this year.
- BiggE

I just feel dealing Schenn at age 25 was too soon. You're right. Provorov and Konecny have a season under their belt but the second season for NHLers notorious for being tougher. Plus now we're crossing our fingers for Giroux, Voracek and Filppula to all have bounce back seasons, while hoping for the best from a cast of rookies in Patrick, Morin, Lindblom and Hagg. This is a lot of inexperience and players potentially on the other side of their prime.

I think it's okay for some to be concerned. I'm seeing more and more of a scary trend. We have Filppula for one more season but hey, it's just one season. We just brought in Lehtera in a deal I'm not even sure was necessary, but it's two seasons. We signed Dale Weise to play RW, a spot we were already deep on, he's struggled to do anything at all but that's fine, only three seasons left along with our good pal Andrew MacDonald. Three seasons, three seasons between the two of them. Let's not forget we just judged a 6'4" slow bullet with the imprint of the number 40 on the back of it.

In three years this deal might look great. Right now, I think it was a little too soon.

We needed forwards in the pipeline. That's what they said right? Now 2 rounds into the next draft plus last year's we look solid across the board and we got our future 1c. I am happy.

Ok the Flyers used their 3rd round pick to move up (like the Ratcliffe pick). So barring any trades the Flyers next pick is #80...from Boston for Rinaldo.

Who will ever replace Rinaldo??? Great timing too since Rinaldo has been waived

They may still be a bubble team next year boys, but in 2 or 3 years this team will be a contender.
- BiggE

I just hope that we are a tougher out for teams and eliminate any extended winless streaks.
Maybe even squeak out a playoff series win for added team growth. Look out 2019!

Ok the Flyers used their 3rd round pick to move up (like the Ratcliffe pick). So barring any trades the Flyers next pick is #80...from Boston for Rinaldo.

Who will ever replace Rinaldo??? Great timing too since Rinaldo has been waived
- Glak18

I am so glad they kept the Rinaldo pick. That pick must be made and given all the time in the world to develop

I am so glad they kept the Rinaldo pick. That pick must be made and given all the time in the world to develop
- AllInForFlyers

I'm thinking goalie

Ok the Flyers used their 3rd round pick to move up (like the Ratcliffe pick). So barring any trades the Flyers next pick is #80...from Boston for Rinaldo.

Who will ever replace Rinaldo??? Great timing too since Rinaldo has been waived
- Glak18

another great move for to put on Hexy's pro side of the ledger!

I'm thinking goalie
- Tfaehner

That would be totally fine, as long as he's just this projectable kid that makes Boston rue the day they made that trade

In some years, I would have been leery in giving up that much to move up in the 2nd round, but not this year. First off, like you said, I believe he is a legit late first round talent with a lot of potential and secondly, most of the scouts I trust for my info all feel that there is a sharp drop off in quality once you get past the first 40-50 guys in this draft so giving up the 3rd and 4th, especially while you still have picks in those rounds, matters little to me.
- BiggE

This!! Spot on my friend

I just feel dealing Schenn at age 25 was too soon. You're right. Provorov and Konecny have a season under their belt but the second season for NHLers notorious for being tougher. Plus now we're crossing our fingers for Giroux, Voracek and Filppula to all have bounce back seasons, while hoping for the best from a cast of rookies in Patrick, Morin, Lindblom and Hagg. This is a lot of inexperience and players potentially on the other side of their prime.

I think it's okay for some to be concerned. I'm seeing more and more of a scary trend. We have Filppula for one more season but hey, it's just one season. We just brought in Lehtera in a deal I'm not even sure was necessary, but it's two seasons. We signed Dale Weise to play RW, a spot we were already deep on, he's struggled to do anything at all but that's fine, only three seasons left along with our good pal Andrew MacDonald. Three seasons, three seasons between the two of them. Let's not forget we just judged a 6'4" slow bullet with the imprint of the number 40 on the back of it.

In three years this deal might look great. Right now, I think it was a little too soon.
- SuperSchennBros

2 to 3 seasons from now is why the deal was made. They weren't going to contend for a Cup in 17-18 nor, in most likelihood 18-19 with or without Brayden Schenn, but his value, right now, was probably as high as it was going to be. It was absolutely the right time to move him.

I'm hoping Hextall and the scouting staff see Ratcliffe as a future all star. That's a lot to give up to move up 9 spots. I would have kept 44 and tried to trade up into the 40s or early 50s to try to get 2 of Entwistle, Popugaev, Morand. Then hopefully get Chmelevski later.

Ok the Flyers used their 3rd round pick to move up (like the Ratcliffe pick). So barring any trades the Flyers next pick is #80...from Boston for Rinaldo.

Who will ever replace Rinaldo??? Great timing too since Rinaldo has been waived
- Glak18

Probably some kid who just got out of prison

Well, he's a better skater than Kerr and 3 inches taller. However, I'm not sure if he will have the pure brute strength of Timmy (he was freakishly strong), nor the unbelievably quick release on his shot. However, if they end up not re-signing Simmonds, this guy could well be the net front replacement on the PP and a quality top 6 LW.

That being said, back to back to back to back years of 54, 54, 58, and 58 goals is pretty unlikely


- BiggE

If he was healthy we would have beat Edmonton.

Love this 2nd round pick.Thats what they need .Big guys who can skate score and crush.

If he was healthy we would have beat Edmonton.
- Konalover

Oh God, don't remind me.
He was irreplaceable in that lineup, only Mark Howe, IMO, was more vital to the team.

I trust Provorov will have all these kids on a workout regimen soon!


Also take those 3 lines by 19-20 and add this top D to the mix:
Provorov-Myers
Sanheim-Gudas
Morin-Ghost
Hagg
- BiggE

Great potential for the D...and Goaltenders.

Now the Forwards are shaping up nicely!!!

Konecny (NHL Experience)

Patrick (C)
Rubtsov (C/W)
Vorobyov (C)
Marody (C)
Laczynski (C)

Lindblom (W)
Aube-Kubel (W)
Laberge (C/W)
Bunnaman (C)
Allison (W)
Frost (C/W)
Ratcliffe (W)

Pretty exciting!

2 to 3 seasons from now is why the deal was made. They weren't going to contend for a Cup in 17-18 nor, in most likelihood 18-19 with or without Brayden Schenn, but his value, right now, was probably as high as it was going to be. It was absolutely the right time to move him.
- BiggE

You and I couldn't possibly know whether or not Schenn could improve. I keep hearing how weak a draft this is, so tell me what's the difference between now and next year?