Quote from Tanner from his latest blog:

"Who cares what they do on the PP because those are goals that you mostly score anyways, regardless of who's on the ice."

Not sure if this helps or hurts my case

- Streit2ThePoint

He said on the fan 590 that it was always his dream to talk poop on the flyers then be drafted by them

It's a little mind boggling that some people can't understand what Hextall is doing, but I am very excited about this team now and the future.

I would like a playoff appearance next year, but not sure if they are ready yet. This is the year I have been waiting for the last 3-4 years, now my leash will start to get shorter each following year.

Anything short of a Carey Price isn't going to change this team, so patience with the bumps and prepare for the future.
- Glak18

Carey Price

I would love the Flyers to make the playoffs and they could but that would be a perk right now. The fun is going to watch these kids getting some real time. I'm with you...this will be exciting (ups and downs with be apart of it) and I will drink lots of beer along the way

- Streit2ThePoint

Who would the Flyers get to replace G's production?
- Sublime55

When is G going to make up G's production?
Rebuild mode. Nothing else matters.

Ratcliffe...6'6"...LW...me likey.

Got to say they put some size on the board this draft. Patricks is no little boy either.

When is G going to make up G's production?
Rebuild mode. Nothing else matters.
- SuperSchennBros

Wow! you are salty. I get it though...it is not cool when your favorite player gets moved.

Go ahead and vent my friend. Schenn put in some time here in the black and orange and will be missed. You might need some of Big E's drink and a hot salt bath

not sure who is crying about weak shot schenn, I'm thinking laughton could step in for him pretty easy, they seem almost identical players imo
- mydoglicks

All except for the 25 goals and 50 points part. If Laughton was an identical player to Schenn, he'd have been a regular in the NHL a few seasons ago.

Wow! you are salty. I get it though...it is not cool when your favorite player gets moved.

Go ahead and vent my friend. Schenn put in some time here in the black and orange and will be missed. You might need some of Big E's drink and a hot salt bath


- peesinwind

My view is, even though the top six let us down, they were the only bright spot and we took from that. Now, with the understanding that we're not a Cup contender right now, this doesn't mean we should compete. This doesn't mean we shouldn't see steps forward. I think if Brayden Schenn is traded in a year from now, I don't have a leg to stand on. By adding Nolan Patrick with a line up with Brayden Schenn in it, the offensive production goes up...for everyone. James van Riemsdyk, Simon Gagne, Scott Hartnell and now Brayden Schenn. Our best LW now is Michael Raffl. This is how far the left side has fallen.

To believe Schenn cannot score 30 at least once in his career or continue to produce beyond this season is the same as the Scott Hartnell debate when he was moved to Columbus. It was the right time at the time, he can't produce anymore. I can't speak for this season but the two seasons after Hartnell's trade, Hartnell remained the same player. It was too soon a deal.

The Russian Goalie's numbers are incredible!

Ranked 5th among European goaltenders by Central Scouting, he posted a 1.74 GAA and .938 save percentage in the MHL (the top Russian junior league) for MHK Dynamo St. Petersburg, and made five playoff appearances as well.

Not sure how that translates but impressive in North American leagues. I know the KHL has lower scoring then the AHL and NHL. Not sure how Jr.'s compare but 1.74 and .938 are pretty (franking) solid.

not sure who is crying about weak shot schenn, I'm thinking laughton could step in for him pretty easy, they seem almost identical players imo
- mydoglicks

Weak shot???? You don't play the spot hecdid on the PP if his shot was weak. Not great defensively or needs more production at even strength I won't argue but common!!

My view is, even though the top six let us down, they were the only bright spot and we took from that. Now, with the understanding that we're not a Cup contender right now, this doesn't mean we should compete. This doesn't mean we shouldn't see steps forward. I think if Brayden Schenn is traded in a year from now, I don't have a leg to stand on. By adding Nolan Patrick with a line up with Brayden Schenn in it, the offensive production goes up...for everyone. James van Riemsdyk, Simon Gagne, Scott Hartnell and now Brayden Schenn. Our best LW now is Michael Raffl. This is how far the left side has fallen.

To believe Schenn cannot score 30 at least once in his career or continue to produce beyond this season is the same as the Scott Hartnell debate when he was moved to Columbus. It was the right time at the time, he can't produce anymore. I can't speak for this season but the two seasons after Hartnell's trade, Hartnell remained the same player. It was too soon a deal.
- SuperSchennBros

Couple things:
Konecny, Lindblom and Weal (if signed) all play the left side. Schenn has played all 3 forward positions, like others on the team.

No one believes he can't score 30, actually he should of by now.

Worst mistake a team can make, holding on to players too long. It was tough to trade Hartnell when he was (hence having to swap with Umberger), but imagine if the Flyers waited a year or two. Wow. Flyers would have to trade a 1st round pick just to get rid of him.

Adding Nolan Patrick was one of the biggest reasons why it was easier to trade Schenn now. He is 25 now, what you see is what you get from Schenn. Players don't magically become superstars at 27, normally you start to see decline in production.

I get it, you are one of the fans of Schenn, but trading him doesn't mean the Flyers are giving up. I actually don't think they are any worse of a team, actually better with the additions of Patrick, Lindblom and even more prospects/picks to make the team even better.

- Streit2ThePoint

This trade looks better and better.

My view is, even though the top six let us down, they were the only bright spot and we took from that. Now, with the understanding that we're not a Cup contender right now, this doesn't mean we should compete. This doesn't mean we shouldn't see steps forward. I think if Brayden Schenn is traded in a year from now, I don't have a leg to stand on. By adding Nolan Patrick with a line up with Brayden Schenn in it, the offensive production goes up...for everyone. James van Riemsdyk, Simon Gagne, Scott Hartnell and now Brayden Schenn. Our best LW now is Michael Raffl. This is how far the left side has fallen.

To believe Schenn cannot score 30 at least once in his career or continue to produce beyond this season is the same as the Scott Hartnell debate when he was moved to Columbus. It was the right time at the time, he can't produce anymore. I can't speak for this season but the two seasons after Hartnell's trade, Hartnell remained the same player. It was too soon a deal.
- SuperSchennBros

Don't get me wrong. I like to compete and I think the Flyers have a recent history of fighting to win now. Yet, Hexy's plan is to compete but in order to do that the Flyers need to focus on some draft guys coming in every year. From what Hexy said it sounded like they came at him trying to target Schenn so he happened to be the player moved.

Good point on Hartnell (though part of that trade was for space down the road). Hind sight that trade was painful to see play out. Just glad we got to the good part of that trade where the contract is almost cleared up.

I guess we are in the same boat here. We will see if Hexy gets it right down the road. Hope you are wrong and I feel your pain.

Couple things:
Konecny, Lindblom and Weal (if signed) all play the left side. Schenn has played all 3 forward positions, like others on the team.

No one believes he can't score 30, actually he should of by now.

Worst mistake a team can make, holding on to players too long. It was tough to trade Hartnell when he was (hence having to swap with Umberger), but imagine if the Flyers waited a year or two. Wow. Flyers would have to trade a 1st round pick just to get rid of him.

Adding Nolan Patrick was one of the biggest reasons why it was easier to trade Schenn now. He is 25 now, what you see is what you get from Schenn. Players don't magically become superstars at 27, normally you start to see decline in production.

I get it, you are one of the fans of Schenn, but trading him doesn't mean the Flyers are giving up. I actually don't think they are any worse of a team, actually better with the additions of Patrick, Lindblom and even more prospects/picks to make the team even better.
- Glak18

Let's get it straight now. My favorite player is and always has been Wayne Simmonds. This argument of using my user name against me is weak.

The rest of this are all solid points but you guys have to understand that G and Jake aren't getting any better, so are we hanging on to them for too long?

Don't get me wrong. I like to compete and I think the Flyers have a recent history of fighting to win now. Yet, Hexy's plan is to compete but in order to do that the Flyers need to focus on some draft guys coming in every year. From what Hexy said it sounded like they came at him trying to target Schenn so he happened to be the player moved.

Good point on Hartnell (though part of that trade was for space down the road). Hind sight that trade was painful to see play out. Just glad we got to the good part of that trade where the contract is almost cleared up.

I guess we are in the same boat here. We will see if Hexy gets it right down the road. Hope you are wrong and I feel your pain.
- peesinwind

Well said.

Couple things:
Konecny, Lindblom and Weal (if signed) all play the left side. Schenn has played all 3 forward positions, like others on the team.

No one believes he can't score 30, actually he should of by now.

Worst mistake a team can make, holding on to players too long. It was tough to trade Hartnell when he was (hence having to swap with Umberger), but imagine if the Flyers waited a year or two. Wow. Flyers would have to trade a 1st round pick just to get rid of him.

Adding Nolan Patrick was one of the biggest reasons why it was easier to trade Schenn now. He is 25 now, what you see is what you get from Schenn. Players don't magically become superstars at 27, normally you start to see decline in production.

I get it, you are one of the fans of Schenn, but trading him doesn't mean the Flyers are giving up. I actually don't think they are any worse of a team, actually better with the additions of Patrick, Lindblom and even more prospects/picks to make the team even better.
- Glak18

I like Konecny and I hope Lindblom can make the transition. Weal I have some doubts but I hope they nail him cheap. The fact is these guys are young and cheap but not proven to Schenn's numbers yet. But like you I have a good felling on their chances on that LW.

Did I say that I love Ratcliffe

Well said.
- SuperSchennBros

What is your thoughts on Konecny and Lindblom. You may end up loving these guys more then Schenn. They seem to have some grit and scoring potential.

Let's get it straight now. My favorite player is and always has been Wayne Simmonds. This argument of using my user name against me is weak.

The rest of this are all solid points but you guys have to understand that G and Jake aren't getting any better, so are we hanging on to them for too long?
- SuperSchennBros

First off...what?

Secondly, perhaps. Giroux is in decline, whether that is due to age or injuries I don't know. History has shown that late 20's is normal for production decline. That doesn't mean you don't see players like Jagr producing at his age, but that is extremely rare. Also keep in mind Giroux has a NMC. It's not that easy for a team to just ask to trade him unless they have a solid offer on the table already. Personally I feel Voracek overall game looked much better last year, but that doesn't mean he will have a career year in the future. It all depends on if a team is winning, winning always makes players stat lines look better.

Another example better than Hartnell. Richards and Carter. Did the Flyers trade them too soon? Yes, they have 2 stanley cups, but one is out of the league and the other has never matched his production when on the Flyers. The players they received from those trades improved the team greatly. If they never got traded, would the Flyers really be better?

Let's get it straight now. My favorite player is and always has been Wayne Simmonds. This argument of using my user name against me is weak.

The rest of this are all solid points but you guys have to understand that G and Jake aren't getting any better, so are we hanging on to them for too long?
- SuperSchennBros

Good choice on Simmonds. He is fun to watch. I took it also that Schenn was your favorite. My bad. I admit that Schenn isn't in my top 5 favorites but I sure wasn't happy on losing him but the young kids coming up is what gets me fired up. Patricks is going to be a fan favorite. He is a stud that fell on our lap from the hockey gods.

The Russian Goalie's numbers are incredible!

Ranked 5th among European goaltenders by Central Scouting, he posted a 1.74 GAA and .938 save percentage in the MHL (the top Russian junior league) for MHK Dynamo St. Petersburg, and made five playoff appearances as well.

Not sure how that translates but impressive in North American leagues. I know the KHL has lower scoring then the AHL and NHL. Not sure how Jr.'s compare but 1.74 and .938 are pretty (franking) solid.


- peesinwind

Yup, very solid numbers. I'm not sure why he wasn't on people's radar. Maybe coming out a a year early or something?

Hextall is creating a Battle Royale with all these goaltending prospects. Theoretically we only have three spots with the backup NHL position and the two phantoms spots with Stoli, Hart, Lyon, Sandstrom and now this pick all fighting for them. Teaming up with an ECHL franchise might have just been a genius idea on Hexy's part to ensure these kids continue to get ice time as they move up the ranks.

Worst mistake a team can make, holding on to players too long. It was tough to trade Hartnell when he was (hence having to swap with Umberger), but imagine if the Flyers waited a year or two. Wow. Flyers would have to trade a 1st round pick just to get rid of him.


- Glak18

I don't buy this. Nobody can speak factually what kind of player Schenn would be in two years. No reason why he couldn't continue to score at the level he has the last two seasons.

Adding Nolan Patrick was one of the biggest reasons why it was easier to trade Schenn now. He is 25 now, what you see is what you get from Schenn. Players don't magically become superstars at 27, normally you start to see decline in production.


- Glak18

Schenn doesn't have to become a superstar at 27 he just has to remain a good player. Whether adding Patrick makes it easier to trade Schenn now depends on whether you view Schenn as a winger or a center. I think he was more of a winger here. I don't see the two players linked. I think Hextall just got an offer he couldn't turn down.

I get it, you are one of the fans of Schenn, but trading him doesn't mean the Flyers are giving up. I actually don't think they are any worse of a team, actually better with the additions of Patrick, Lindblom and even more prospects/picks to make the team even better.
- Glak18

Remains to be seen if they are better than they have been now. I can safely say that they're better in the near future with Schenn and those players than without Schenn. There is some downside to this trade. Remains to be seen if they can cash in on the picks.

- Streit2ThePoint

We lost 7-0 to caps the night of this....I am pretty sure if we went back to this date's board, a lot of people would be saying the same thing.

I actually liked the trade. I just think its funny how some are making like Schenn was garbage. (not you specifically)
- MBFlyerfan

I'm on record as saying he's garbage. I will accept what comes with that. Freaking hate every aspect of Schenns game. Whether that's right or wrong doesn't matter. I'm Schennophobic.

Yup, very solid numbers. I'm not sure why he wasn't on people's radar. Maybe coming out a a year early or something?

Hextall is creating a Battle Royale with all these goaltending prospects. Theoretically we only have three spots with the backup NHL position and the two phantoms spots with Stoli, Hart, Lyon, Sandstrom and now this pick all fighting for them. Teaming up with an ECHL franchise might have just been a genius idea on Hexy's part to ensure these kids continue to get ice time as they move up the ranks.
- hereticpride

Have to laugh. It wasn't long ago on this thread that some were up in arms about trading our 5th most promising goalie on the prospect charts. A past goalie is our GM...I think he knows the value of a goalie and how hard it is to know which ones with develop. You got to have many quality options to see which develop.