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Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
Why do I have a strange feeling China will sign either Iginla or Jagr to deals next month?
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
Why do I have a strange feeling China will sign either Niginla or Jagr to deals next month?
- Larsson_fan



Freudian slip?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 23 @ 6:53 PM ET
Freudian slip?
- smellmyfinger

Fixed that...my phone has been useless as a porch monkey lately.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:55 PM ET
Im not going as far as to hitting the panic button yet but I can understand the concern for this team going into the season....with that being said there is still lots of time between now and the start of the year....deals to be done signings to be had plus the draft....I will also add Bennings name to your list I believe there is something there and he could keep improving next year
- RatedR80

He could but I prefer betting on the lower end of improvement. Better to plan for him NOT replicating his very impressive season than to assume he's going to.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:57 PM ET
COUple solid two way 50 point seasons From nuge and strome could go a long way
- Ihateallofu

Oh they most certainly would. I know it's kinda a fresh wound for some but after spending yesterday delving into the player, I've come around even more on the deal. I really don't mind it at all and, in fact, I believe it's the type of deal that Chiarelli will have to be good at to find success with this team (trading a proven, higher priced piece for a less proven, low-priced piece with similar abilities).
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 6:58 PM ET
What about internal regressions?
With no Eberle or Sekeras, if Draisaitl slips even a little it will sting, and you can't bet the farm that Maroon won't repeat husband points totals. Nuge and Lucic likely flatlined so I wouldn't expect much change there.

- Larsson_fan

I mentioned those in the post you responded to. All of Maroon, Letestu, Talbot, Draisaitl and even McDavid were mentioned.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:00 PM ET
Why do I have a strange feeling China will sign either Iginla or Jagr to deals next month?
- Larsson_fan

I'd be pretty happy to see a guy like Jagr sign with the team. He's proven to still be an effective top-6 guy and would present a solid barrier of entry to the top-6 for all our younger guys (PuJu, Slepy and Jewels). Might even bestow some useful knowledge on our guys to help them bring their games to another level.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 23 @ 7:00 PM ET
Oh they most certainly would. I know it's kinda a fresh wound for some but after spending yesterday delving into the player, I've come around even more on the deal. I really don't mind it at all and, in fact, I believe it's the type of deal that Chiarelli will have to be good at to find success with this team (trading a proven, higher priced piece for a less proven, low-priced piece with similar abilities).
- MaximumBone

HE might see some More bounces go his way. I feel he fanbase come close to Ebs production I will be happy. It's not a good trade But it's kinda sorta reasonable, if he shows some usefulness away from the puck.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 23 @ 7:01 PM ET
I'd be pretty happy to see a guy like Jagr sign with the team. He's proven to still be an effective top-6 guy and would present a solid barrier of entry to the top-6 for all our younger guys (PuJu, Slepy and Jewels). Might even bestow some useful knowledge on our guys to help them bring their games to another level.
- MaximumBone

He would have to play with either Nuge or also but tho 5X5....too slow for
McD.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:03 PM ET
He would have to play with either Nuge or also but tho 5X5....too slow for
McD.

- Larsson_fan

I was thinking Drai would make a bunch of sense. An absurd cycle line with Lucic.
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:03 PM ET
Why do I have a strange feeling China will sign either Iginla or Jagr to deals next month?
- Larsson_fan


Jagr can still (frank)ing go dude.
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:05 PM ET
I'd be pretty happy to see a guy like Jagr sign with the team. He's proven to still be an effective top-6 guy and would present a solid barrier of entry to the top-6 for all our younger guys (PuJu, Slepy and Jewels). Might even bestow some useful knowledge on our guys to help them bring their games to another level.
- MaximumBone


Plus he's (frank)ing Jagr***
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 23 @ 7:08 PM ET
Just saw a clip from Tim and Sid where the one with hair was basically begging McDavid to ask for 14 million... I wonder how he'll feel when it's Matthew's time to negotiate a new contract.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:08 PM ET
HE might see some More bounces go his way. I feel he fanbase come close to Ebs production I will be happy. It's not a good trade But it's kinda sorta reasonable, if he shows some usefulness away from the puck.
- Larsson_fan

I think it's more a matter of fit for McLellan's systems. He's faster, better at puck protection and, by my eye, has a better forehand shot. He'll likely be better suited to playing with McDavid and Draisaitl than Eberle was. Add the utility of spliting faceoffs (only taking draws on their strong sides might help improve their %s) on a line with McDavid, as well.
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:10 PM ET
I'd like to see Nuve be traded for Barrie. We made have to add, but Duchene will be gone so they'll need a 2C and I just don't see Nuge ever being that here.

Rantanen is another interesting option from Colorado.

I have no clue how we'd ever get Hamonic now, so doubt that'll happen.

Faulk is another good idea because Carolina needs offense. He's been doing better than Jordan Staal. Maybe Nuge excels there.

For right wings, Jagr, Radulov, Kovalchuk and Williams can fill that second line right wing spot if we want to let Pulltuggy develop more.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 7:13 PM ET
HE might see some More bounces go his way. I feel he fanbase come close to Ebs production I will be happy. It's not a good trade But it's kinda sorta reasonable, if he shows some usefulness away from the puck.
- Larsson_fan

Yep

He's capable of doing it

I've made no secret of my stoke on ebs. So talented. And while I don't think strome possesses the wow factor ebs can, he has skills.

And like max- It didn't take long till I came around abit on the possible pluses of the deal. But to then spend that cAsh on this Russel deal erased any good feelings I may have had about it. I can generally find my way to see rationale in most of chias moves . I even did with the Larsson deal before he actually played and helped us.
But I can't with this one. I have zero doubt we'll regret before it's half done
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:18 PM ET
I guess I just disagree that it's so awful. Certainly not ideal, but considering Sekera's injury and thus Russell's position of leverage, the market that seemed to exist for him and his results last year, it's not that out to lunch. Not good but not one of the worst (bottom 20 by my gauge). Below average value.
- MaximumBone

Can always count on thread boss to have a level head, and show some level of objectivity, instead of purely biased opinions.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 7:18 PM ET
I'd like to see Nuve be traded for Barrie. We made have to add, but Duchene will be gone so they'll need a 2C and I just don't see Nuge ever being that here.

Rantanen is another interesting option from Colorado.

I have no clue how we'd ever get Hamonic now, so doubt that'll happen.

Faulk is another good idea because Carolina needs offense. He's been doing better than Jordan Staal. Maybe Nuge excels there.

For right wings, Jagr, Radulov, Kovalchuk and Williams can fill that second line right wing spot if we want to let Pulltuggy develop more.

- FransNielson


They won't deal rantanen.
Doubt carolina considers Faulk either . At least until hanifin shows he is what they hoped.


ITs not like I don't think nuge for barrie is bad value - but not ONLY is that another big contract on the the backend we prob can't afford now, we can't hurt our forward group any further really at this point. Quite the opposite. WE need nuge to step up and get 50+
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:20 PM ET
Yep

He's capable of doing it

I've made no secret of my stoke on ebs. So talented. And while I don't think strome possesses the wow factor ebs can, he has skills.

And like max- It didn't take long till I came around abit on the possible pluses of the deal. But to then spend that cAsh on this Russel deal erased any good feelings I may have had about it. I can generally find my way to see rationale in most of chias moves . I even did with the Larsson deal before he actually played and helped us.
But I can't with this one. I have zero doubt we'll regret before it's half done

- Ihateallofu

Fair enough. I know you well enough to know that this isn't some unreasonable concern and that you have your reasons. We'll have to wait and see
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:21 PM ET
Can always count on thread boss to have a level head, and show some level of objectivity, instead of purely biased opinions.
- leonkennedy

Just for you, "Leon"
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:22 PM ET
They won't deal rantanen.
Doubt carolina considers Faulk either . At least until hanifin shows he is what they hoped.


ITs not like I don't think nuge for barrie is bad value - but not ONLY is that another big contract on the the backend we prob can't afford now, we can't hurt our forward group any further really at this point. Quite the opposite. WE need nuge to step up and get 50+

- Ihateallofu


We'd be back to square one if we were to trade Nuge for Barrie. It'd be like the same had we kept Eberle and not signed Russell.

I really think they should dump Pouliot. Doesnt matter for what honestly.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 23 @ 7:23 PM ET
McDavid signs an 8 year, 16 million dollar contract with the Oilers.

Two hours later, McDavid signs an 8 year, 100 million dollar endorsement deal with Rexall
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:25 PM ET
Just for you, "Leon"
- MaximumBone

I foresee "referee" privileges in your near future.
FransNielson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:26 PM ET
McDavid signs an 8 year, 16 million dollar contract with the Oilers.

Two hours later, McDavid signs an 8 year, 100 million dollar endorsement deal with Rexall

- laughs2907


2 million a year?? I"m down
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jun 23 @ 7:26 PM ET
McDavid signs an 8 year, 16 million dollar contract with the Oilers.

Two hours later, McDavid signs an 8 year, 100 million dollar endorsement deal with Rexall

- laughs2907

You are an evil genius.
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