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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 24 @ 8:55 AM ET
Don't think that was confirmed, but one can see how it was an emotional day for Q.

From Kevin Weekes:

I'm hearing the friction & heat being turned up internally w @NHLBlackhawks moves today -was Quenneville consulted/approve of them ? @NHL .

- TyCamScore


Well, Kevin's a good guy, but it's reached a point where the "legit" media are reacting to rumors on social media as well. Look no further than the Oshie Charade that "legit" media were pumping the last two days, PURE FABRICATION on someone's part. And I have that from a Hawk source with no motive to deny it.

We live in a society where people now choose to reinforce their beliefs with their preferred version of facts. So it should come as no real surprise when people will only deem credible what full-time journalists report. As though no one else has relationships with players, coaches, scouts etc.

Or that teams and agents don't take advantage of this belief in the infallibility of "legit" media sources to push their desired narratives out through those same "legit" sources.

D-U-M.

So all that said, I will wait to jump on this rumor simply because like the Oshie thing, it has the feel of an interwebs invention. Might not be either. It bears further investigation.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:00 AM ET
IF true....and that's a huge IF....whoa!!!!
- ILGolfer


We got here waaaaaaay too early!!!!

Front row seat, but nothing going on.

So bored........
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:01 AM ET
Should make today more interesting...wonder if Q will be there today with the brass? It was bad optics that he wasn't there last night - I mean for christsake even Rocky was at the table with the brass and the scouts.

At the same time Q's won you three Cups - so I can see where he'd be a bit pissed off, especially regarding Hammer.

So I guess Q made his point...should be an interesting day for sure.

Hoping Bowman and company can get some more moves done today.

We'll see how it shakes out...

- DK002


I don't follow too much that happens outside the boards but I have the believe the wound(s) between Q and StanBowPops&McD started when Q turned his nose up at Daley who was then moved on to immediately win a cup followed by another. Q ran him out of town and played Rundblad in the Game 7 loss to STL. That kind of stuff probably never gets forgotten...... Then his usage of Weise and to a lesser degree Fleishman at a cost of Denault and a 2nd rounder opened that wound even more.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:04 AM ET
Seriousky though if you scrutinize the Arizona model NOW and FORWARD whomever the ciach their young GM has set the menu and it is dynamic skating, skilled puck mover featured per pairing. Hjalmarsson is complementary in one pair.


- jhawk59


That kid in AZ is collecting a lot of skill, changing the culture. Not quite on par with TOR but the same model........ That team will be worth tuning into this year.
Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:07 AM ET

So JJ,

Whats your gut feeling telling you for today?

E. Kane, Gal, Duchesne, Danault ????

Inquiring minds want to know
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:10 AM ET
Well, Kevin's a good guy, but it's reached a point where the "legit" media are reacting to rumors on social media as well. Look no further than the Oshie Charade that "legit" media were pumping the last two days, PURE FABRICATION on someone's part. And I have that from a Hawk source with no motive to deny it.

We live in a society where people now choose to reinforce their beliefs with their preferred version of facts. So it should come as no real surprise when people will only deem credible what full-time journalists report. As though no one else has relationships with players, coaches, scouts etc.

Or that teams and agents don't take advantage of this belief in the infallibility of "legit" media sources to push their desired narratives out through those same "legit" sources.

D-U-M.

So all that said, I will wait to jump on this rumor simply because like the Oshie thing, it has the feel of an interwebs invention. Might not be either. It bears further investigation.

- John Jaeckel


JJ I'm not gonna wade into the legit vs non legit hockey media debate but will say this about Weekes. As a former NHL goalie I have never learned a thing from his mouth, nothing. Now that nails on a chalk board Pierre often has solid points and facts I didn't know............ Weekes, a nice guy, gives one who seeks info nothing where as Pierre, a goof, is helpful if you can stand to listen to him.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jun 24 @ 9:10 AM ET
So JJ,

Whats your gut feeling telling you for today?

E. Kane, Gal, Duchesne, Danault ????

Inquiring minds want to know

- Hawkster



AA for Danault and a pick? Use the cap savings to sign Jumbo Joe.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
Don't kid yourself, he is upset, its been reported a 100 times yesterday. He and his wife love Chicago, he has always said so going back to why he signed for a lower number than he could have gotten elsewhere.

Oduya, Campbell, its happened before.

- vabeachbear

Can easily see a '19 TDL deal given his expiring contract.
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
So JJ,

Whats your gut feeling telling you for today?

E. Kane, Gal, Duchesne, Danault ????

Inquiring minds want to know

- Hawkster


Id still love to see that E Kane deal get done today.
That would open up some ice
Need something for the PK I'm afraid. A big hole there
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:15 AM ET
Not much ammo for you on baseball. Lots of WS trophies to count here in town and the central is a crappy, flip a coin division this year.
- Jason Millen

Like the 'Hawks aspiring to the Wings model on their rebuild, I know there were a few things the Cubs took away from their Cards rivalry.

I can't believe the Cubs are so mediocre in all three major facets after 2-1/2 months. Some pitching? Sure. Some hitting? Yeah. But the defence? Wow! I won't count out the Red Birds unless they are 20GB.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
Id still love to see that E Kane deal get done today.
That would open up some ice
Need something for the PK I'm afraid. A big hole there

- Yikes726



Still trying to figure out why the Pens traded for Ryan Reeves?!?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
Still trying to figure out why the Pens traded for Ryan Reeves?!?
- z1990z


They felt they needed a 5th liner who could contribute 0/0/0 11 PIM in the Playoffs.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
They felt they needed a 5th liner who could contribute 0/0/0 11 PIM in the Playoffs.
- riozzo


And if Reeves is worth a low 1st, shouldn't TooToo be worth two?
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jun 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
Wiz,

Any chance the Hawks move up in the 2nd round to pick up Jason Robertson?
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
Still trying to figure out why the Pens traded for Ryan Reeves?!?
- z1990z



Well.... Rutherford said he was going to address the situation during the off season when it came to his stars getting rung up. Protection for Syd. Believe it or not , which is still part of the game. Steep price to pay but I get it. I'd take Reeves also ,but not for a 1st rounder. They won 2in a row and are deep. I was hoping that Lawson Krouse would be part of the Arizona deal coming back this way, good hard nosed kid that can play . Chicago lacked in that department severely last season.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
Like the 'Hawks aspiring to the Wings model on their rebuild, I know there were a few things the Cubs took away from their Cards rivalry.

I can't believe the Cubs are so mediocre in all three major facets after 2-1/2 months. Some pitching? Sure. Some hitting? Yeah. But the defence? Wow! I won't count out the Red Birds unless they are 20GB.

- blackhawk24



its obvious: 108 year world series hangover...takes along time for all that celebration to dissipate...who knows maybe fowler meant more to this team than first thought...
scott.jackson
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Georgian Bluffs, ON
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
Jeez... lighten up up Francis. His original point wasn't off base, and is shared many people. Hammer is definitely the most accomplished and the two we got back are unproven. ANYONE is free to post here, as long as they arent attacking other people.
- Chunk


I have no problem with posters from other teams coming on here and have great conversations about what the hawks are doing and compare it to there teams. The issue I have is when you have a select few posters from other teams coming on here and bashing what the hawks are doing on just about every post it gets a bit old. I come on here to read what other hawk fans think about moves that should be made or rate moves that have been made and I really enjoy that.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
I have no problem with posters from other teams coming on here and have great conversations about what the hawks are doing and compare it to there teams. The issue I have is when you have a select few posters from other teams coming on here and bashing what the hawks are doing on just about every post it gets a bit old. I come on here to read what other hawk fans think about moves that should be made or rate moves that have been made and I really enjoy that.
- scott.jackson



Agreed, if they do it on their team page - crickets... Look at the difference in traffic.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:31 AM ET
Can easily see a '19 TDL deal given his expiring contract.
- blackhawk24


Yep, that was my point.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
Well.... Rutherford said he was going to address the situation during the off season when it came to his stars getting rung up. Protection for Syd. Believe it or not , which is still part of the game. Steep price to pay but I get it. I'd take Reeves also ,but not for a 1st rounder. They won 2in a row and are deep. I was hoping that Lawson Krouse would be part of the Arizona deal coming back this way, good hard nosed kid that can play . Chicago lacked in that department severely last season.
- wonthecup10


It was not a 1 for 1 for Reaves; Pitts got #51 in this draft.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:33 AM ET
JJ keeps talking about being ready for 19'. What is that about, the CBA being opened?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
Well.... Rutherford said he was going to address the situation during the off season when it came to his stars getting rung up. Protection for Syd. Believe it or not , which is still part of the game. Steep price to pay but I get it. I'd take Reeves also ,but not for a 1st rounder. They won 2in a row and are deep. I was hoping that Lawson Krouse would be part of the Arizona deal coming back this way, good hard nosed kid that can play . Chicago lacked in that department severely last season.
- wonthecup10


They really didn't trade him for a first, they swapped players and moved back roughly 20 spots.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
And if Reeves is worth a low 1st, shouldn't TooToo be worth two?
- riozzo



Reaves for a 1st is crazy.

Sorry, Tootoo still isn't worth anything.
scott.jackson
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Georgian Bluffs, ON
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
Agreed, if they do it on their team page - crickets... Look at the difference in traffic.
- riozzo


Thanks Riozzo. I enjoy reading your posts about the Hawks.

JJ's blog have a lot of posts because he is by fair the best blogger on HB. He only puts out information that he feels is legit and backs up his thoughts. Keep up the great work JJ I look forward to coming on your blog each and every day.

To all the HAWK fans on HB yesterday was an exciting day on the trade front and I really look forward today!!
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:50 AM ET
Thanks Riozzo. I enjoy reading your posts about the Hawks.

JJ's blog have a lot of posts because he is by fair the best blogger on HB. He only puts out information that he feels is legit and backs up his thoughts. Keep up the great work JJ I look forward to coming on your blog each and every day.

To all the HAWK fans on HB yesterday was an exciting day on the trade front and I really look forward today!!

- scott.jackson


Agreed, he is a class act and a brilliant writer.
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