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Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Jun 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Rearranging the chairs on the titanic. And still no cap space.
- Newgod77


Hey remember when my team waxed your team in 2013 and then you guys traded Seguin and I built another cup winning team in 2015

Thanks for holding my beer, i'll take that back now
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Ywo years ago, I think. I spent some time with Saad one night last season, he said he loved Cbus, Chicago was great. But . . .

I will just say, he and Tortorella were not always eye to eye, and as I speculated here the other day, I think CBJ wanted that sniper/gal scoring on the left flank. Saad is a great 2-way player but not the pure dynamic, offensive threat Panarin is. So each time got what it wanted. Forsberg could be a steal in this. Motte, meh. No tears here. Message Board Legend I suspect.

- John Jaeckel


That could have something to do with Tortorella being 4'6" tall
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
At least now we won't have to worry about a Keith/Hjalmarsson pairing.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Hey remember when my team waxed your team in 2013 and then you guys traded Seguin and I built another cup winning team in 2015

Thanks for holding my beer, i'll take that back now

- Stan_Bowman


JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
At least now we won't have to worry about a Keith/Hjalmarsson pairing.
- Rota's Rooter

Finally! 2-7 have to be back together.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Hey remember when my team waxed your team in 2013 and then you guys traded Seguin and I built another cup winning team in 2015

Thanks for holding my beer, i'll take that back now

- Stan_Bowman

SB on fire today!
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
I had NO IDEA about Saad. Like I said, he told me personally last winter he loved Columbus. Loved his experience in Chicago but it was all about the future in Cbus. Just built a house here, etc.

All that said, go back and check the thread from the other day, I said, the Jackets need that elite scorer on the wing. Even Saad is not really that.

- John Jaeckel


I wish every troll that gives you a hard time about reporting the "hockey buzz" that you hear would read that line and let it sink in. If you were lying about what you hear from sources, wouldn't you lie after the fact too? You don't and you don't. Period.

Thanks for the great reporting JJ. I get hours of entertainment from your blogs and the comments to them on this site.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Ya mean like . . . Brian Boyle? Center X? LOL

That has been discussed.

- John Jaeckel

Umm, thinking more like Joe Thornton. Perfect center for Kane.
CaptainInsano
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: MI
Joined: 05.30.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
God people are melting on these threads today.. How many bandwagon fans are there?

It's like all of you were former or current GM's who know everything.

Some of the same people whining are some of the same people whining for changes after the 1st round exits.

Look Hammer was my favorite and it sucks to see him go. But maybe we got something back that can help us out. Both are young.

On the Panarin/Saad thing. Hawks needed younger goalie and Panarin was a one way player. Saad fits the system Hawks run and is a replacement for Hossa. Will it perfectly pan out? Only the season will tell.

but seriously people, get a grip. I have a feeling most of you bought jerseys around the 1st cup and are about to put them away now that you think the run is over.
bochangs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
WOW What a brutal move by Stan... At first I thought maybe it was cap related, but nope, just dumb.

Panarin, 6 mill cap hit for only 2 years, 70-80 points per season guy
Saad, 6 mill cap hit for 4 years, 50-60 points per season guy

This isn't as bad as James Neal/Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski, but it's baaaaad. What is happening to the Hawks???
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
can't have him. leafs are re-signing boyle. solid 4C.
- Tumbleweed

Hawks could really use Boyle. Dauphin shouldn't be penciled into lineups. He couldn't crack AZ's lineup
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
At least now we won't have to worry about a Keith/Hjalmarsson pairing.
- Rota's Rooter


Careful what you wish for... Keith/Rozsival.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
Hey remember when my team waxed your team in 2013 and then you guys traded Seguin and I built another cup winning team in 2015

Thanks for holding my beer, i'll take that back now

- Stan_Bowman

CaptainInsano
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: MI
Joined: 05.30.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
WOW What a brutal move by Stan... At first I thought maybe it was cap related, but nope, just dumb.

Panarin, 6 mill cap hit for only 2 years, 70-80 points per season guy
Saad, 6 mill cap hit for 4 years, 50-60 points per season guy

This isn't as bad as James Neal/Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski, but it's baaaaad. What is happening to the Hawks???

- bochangs


Just dumb? Panarin is a one way scorer... Saad is a tough two way 200 ft. player who fits perfect with the system. Both are good in their own way.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Umm, thinking more like Joe Thornton. Perfect center for Kane.
- scottak


that would be interesting pickup.
wolphnuts12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Hawks keep Crawford?
Dabearshawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
WOW What a brutal move by Stan... At first I thought maybe it was cap related, but nope, just dumb.

Panarin, 6 mill cap hit for only 2 years, 70-80 points per season guy
Saad, 6 mill cap hit for 4 years, 50-60 points per season guy

This isn't as bad as James Neal/Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski, but it's baaaaad. What is happening to the Hawks???

- bochangs


Kane can elevate whoever is LW.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
WOW What a brutal move by Stan... At first I thought maybe it was cap related, but nope, just dumb.

Panarin, 6 mill cap hit for only 2 years, 70-80 points per season guy
Saad, 6 mill cap hit for 4 years, 50-60 points per season guy

This isn't as bad as James Neal/Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski, but it's baaaaad. What is happening to the Hawks???

- bochangs

It's almost like there's more to a players game than points. Your argument is like saying Ovi is better than Sid because he scores more.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
Hawks keep Crawford?
- wolphnuts12

So far.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
Rearranging the chairs on the titanic. And still no cap space.
- Newgod77

Still upset about those 17 seconds? Fours years ago tomorrow night!
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'm not seeing that Seabrook story anywhere
- JRoenick97

Pay no attention . That trade was posted on a Fake news site.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
@BrianHedger
I've spoken with a few agents & none heard rumors about a #Blackhawks Panarin deal, including his own.

"They kept a pretty good lid on it."
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
WOW What a brutal move by Stan... At first I thought maybe it was cap related, but nope, just dumb.

Panarin, 6 mill cap hit for only 2 years, 70-80 points per season guy
Saad, 6 mill cap hit for 4 years, 50-60 points per season guy

This isn't as bad as James Neal/Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski, but it's baaaaad. What is happening to the Hawks???

- bochangs


I know right, because obviously points scored are the only things that matter in hockey....
kevndevries
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.31.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
there has go to be something more to the hammer trade. Hawks just see something in Murphy that no one else does?
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
Pay no attention . That trade was posted on a Fake news site.
- ShayneCorsi

The Russians rigged it.
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