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annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
3 wing line.. not a flying V just a flying straight line..
- Fruitcakenipple



All playing the right side, that way they can play 2 LH defenders. ( Righties are hard to find.)
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
What are the Blackhawks doing. Panarin and Niklas Hjalmarsson... Hopefully the Leafs are able to get a defensemen. Panarin for Saad is an awesome trade for Columbus.
- Archaic



The Chicago Blackhawks are going to have some salary cap issues. Tell me if you've heard that one before. It's led to the usual questions about where the team goes to find money to spend. Marian Hossa and his $5.275 million cap hit are usually one of the targets when it comes to creating more space.

However, that's probably not happening. As you might already know, Hossa's contract has a salary cap recapture penalty attached to it. The league created these penalties as part of the 2013 CBA to punish teams that it believed circumvented salary cap rules with lengthy deals that deflated annual average values. Hossa's 12-year, $63 million deal, which concludes with a salary of $1 million in the final four years, will incur those penalties if he retires.

And based on the numbers, it becomes clear why Hossa retiring is unlikely to be a solution. Essentially, as long as Hossa plays at the level of a player worth $1 million through the life of his contract, he'll be worth keeping around. That's because the cap recapture penalties on his contract are pretty substantial.

Cap recapture penalties are based on the differential between the amount of money paid and the accrued salary cap hits prior to a player's retirement. If Hossa retires following the 2015-16 season, he'll have earned $55.3 million with an accumulated cap hit of $36.925 million during his contract with Chicago. That difference, which comes to $18.375 million, would be distributed over the next five years -- the remaining term of his contract -- onto the Hawks' books. So if Hossa retired after this season, the Hawks would have an annual cap hit of $3.675 million on their books through the 2020-21 season.

if he retires at any point following the 2016-17 season: $4.275 for any remaining season moving forward.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
The voices in my head are saying Bracco, Nielsen, and the 17th for Hamonic.
- GingKilmour


Arizona just traded for a better D for less
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Arizona just traded for a better D for less
- senstroll


Way better, Barf Snow still trying to make up for Dipietro team brainfart.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
[quote=winsix]

Won't he just stay on the LTIR and then they won't have any problems?

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
Arizona just traded for a better D for less
- senstroll


new draft strategy. draft big RH Dmen.

doesn't matter if they suck. you can trade them for anything you want.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
All playing the right side, that way they can play 2 LH defenders. ( Righties are hard to find.)
- annoyed



The old circle attack... interesting.. never fails..
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
new draft strategy. draft big RH Dmen.

doesn't matter if they suck. you can trade them for anything you want.

- Tumbleweed


Or at least try
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
new draft strategy. draft big RH Dmen.

doesn't matter if they suck. you can trade them for anything you want.

- Tumbleweed



Yep seems that way...
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
The old circle attack... interesting.. never fails..
- Fruitcakenipple



I like when the wife circle attacks me...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
The old circle attack... interesting.. never fails..
- Fruitcakenipple



Oh man... they are gonna be so screwed, if the puck ever gets played to the left side of the ice...
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
new draft strategy. draft big RH Dmen.

doesn't matter if they suck. you can trade them for anything you want.

- Tumbleweed


They should take the best RD available with every pick in this draft, find the best D coach and develop the poop out them for the next couple of years.

Boom....poop load of tradeable assets and our D will be filled.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
I like when the wife circle attacks me...
- annoyed


Depends which circle...



Wait no it doesn't
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
[quote=annoyed]

Higher standard of transparency required for longer than standard length (8 is the maximum now, this highly scrutanized deal was 12 years) Especially if they are highly front end loaded (like this one)

The precedent is the 17 year Kovalchuk deal signed by NJ for $102 million. The last five years were for only 550,000 per year, raising speculation that Kovalchuk would never play for the last five years. So the league changed the rules - and salary recapture rule was introduced for front end loaded contracts, especially for players over the age of 35. NJ got a big fine and forfeited draft picks on that one, which should also happen to Chicago.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
Oh man... they are gonna be so screwed, if the puck ever gets played to the left side of the ice...
- PatC80



With everyone on left side puck will just slide across..
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'm thinking you wouldn't take that in return if Hanifin was a leaf....

I wouldn't

- Fruitcakenipple


Nor would I

but suggesting one of Marner, Nylaner or Matthews ... PLUS. is just (frank)ing ridiculous.

annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
[quote=winsix]


But what if he just goes on the injured list like Lupul and Robidas...can he not do that for the rest of the contract...rather than retiring....like Horton or Clarkson?
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
[quote=winsix]
Nj never actually lost their 1st for that contract. Lou kept pushing it off every year till the league was like fine draft last in first round.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
[quote=annoyed]
That's what they are planning on doing. Is he really injured to the point he can't play or does he just want to retire and they are using it as a way to get out of the penalty.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Nj never actually lost their 1st for that contract. Lou kept pushing it off every year till the league was like fine draft last in first round.
- HealthyScratch6


and that's why we hired lou. who cares if the hawks cheat. we cheat too.

if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
[quote=HealthyScratch6]

Ya..hard to prove if he's actually injured I guess.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Ya..hard to prove if he's actually injured I guess.
- annoyed


we put robidas on LTIR because he wasn't physically fit to play anymore.

i.e. because he was too old and signed to a stupid contract.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Just look at the size of (frank)'n shopping carts at walmart in NL... .

ducks4thewin
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 04.17.2017

Jun 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Nor would I

but suggesting one of Marner, Nylaner or Matthews ... PLUS. is just (frank)ing ridiculous.

- Aetherial


Marner/Matthews - duh captain obvious, they're going no where.

Nylander could be the odd man out if it really came down to it (and not saying it will happen either, there are many factors).

You want a Stud D (Hanafin) with a high ceiling, whose 20 years old and offer JVR and a 17th over all pick in a weak draft AND in a time where D men are highly coveted? LOLOLOL

That's some Hall/Larsson pipe dream goodness right there.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
Just look at the size of (frank)'n shopping carts at walmart in NL... .


- Fruitcakenipple



Some real bright people out there wondering around the planet.
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