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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
I currently have to do a best man speech next month in my underwear if they Flyers trade #2
- YuenglingJagr

nice
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:43 AM ET
Just make the pick at #2. Maybe proven wrong but I swear as usual all this hype is being driven by media for hits.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
I know I am biases as I LOVE hockey, really like football, think baseball is ok and am eh about basketball, but I still believe the NHL gets the draft right and the best. Love how so many of the kids show up even deep into the later rounds. I was at the draft in NJ and loved how some kids drafted as far as the 4th and 5th round were there. No one shows up to the baseball draft really and even football was lacking of first round players showing up. I like that you can trade draft picks. still don't understand why you cant trade picks in baseball and why you can't trade the actual pick at the draft in basketball. its silly that a kid goes up with a cap on then 5 mins later he is traded to another team. let the team he is ending up with draft him. just weird to me. I like that teams name the player they want opposed to the Commissioner. Baseball is also odd that you get 2 months to sign the player or lose his rights.
- nastyflyergirl


Baseball is by far the most complex and least exciting draft. There is so much BS involved that it takes away from the draft a bit. It is still the only draft where teams knowingly draft players that arent the best available because of signability concerns or $ allotment
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
Baseball is by far the most complex and least exciting draft. There is so much BS involved that it takes away from the draft a bit. It is still the only draft where teams knowingly draft players that arent the best available because of signability concerns or $ allotment
- YuenglingJagr


Why does baseball's draft occur in the middle of the season?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
I don't see a particular benefit to added quantity of picks this year (even in round one), especially when they already have 11 picks. Pretty high chance you end up with something along lines of a decent top-six player and two future role players or even a miss among the three. Would rather have a prospect like Nolan, keep developing what's already in house, and trust the scouts to hit on at least a couple other future NHLers from among the picks after the first round.
- bmeltzer


Since his is not an especially deep draft and with the plethora of picks w ace, would it be worth it to move back into the first round to select another high player like an Eeli Tolvanen in the mid-first round?
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
He traded Rinaldo
VDV doesn't have a new contract yet
The Ghost contract is really good
The PEB contract, while not great, wasn't terrible either
The jake contrcat is still okay. I would give it two more years to see if it was actually questionable
Really the only bad one on here is Weise and I'm willing to give him a pass since he got us out of cap hell and had a couple of really solid drafts

I was never getting personal. You are. If you don't understand why hextall won't give an aging power forward an 8 year contract that would make him one of the highest paid players in the league when his career high in points is like 58, thats on you

- bulet13


I do understand why. We have all seen the Flyers over pay vets over the years.

didn't G wind up with 58 points last year? Jake 61, Schenn 55 .


OK, now I feel better.

VDV he extended for his last contract
he extended Rinaldo the same year he traded him
I think Pebs contract was blocking prospects
I had mixed feelings about long term vs bridge on Ghost. I like the end result.
Jake needs time to evaluate
Weiss played well with Coots and Schenn, as long as that isn't blocking prospects I could live with that playing out.


So, on a different note, I'm not moronic and you aren't a D bag.

I know that this is a situation that I don't really want to consider. Simmer seems to me to be more durable than most power forwards. Can he pop in 25 + for 5 or 6 years?
Can we trade him next year and get the equivalent of the Richards trade? Where Simmer drops off the edge in 1 or 2 years and we get the new Simmer and Schenn.
I have long been on the keep and sign Simmer. We have 2 years to figure out what we have in our prospects.

You want to say, on the fence? I flip on this one sometimes by the hour.

Love Simmer, pretty much my favorite Flyers. Honest effort every night.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
Just make the pick at #2. Maybe proven wrong but I swear as usual all this hype is being driven by media for hits.
- flyer_nutter


I think it's because the past two drafts it's been clearly McDavid then clearly Matthews. With the uncertainty this year the media can make up trade rumors where Oilers and Leafs pretty much made it clear who they wanted early on.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Why does baseball's draft occur in the middle of the season?
- jmatchett383


I think it has more to do with when the NCAA baseball season ends.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Why does baseball's draft occur in the middle of the season?
- jmatchett383

It is at the end of most HS/College seasons, which is where the guys are being drafted from. It is always a little awkward when guys in the CWS get picked before their season ends though
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
I think it's because the past two drafts it's been clearly McDavid then clearly Matthews. With the uncertainty this year the media can make up trade rumors where Oilers and Leafs pretty much made it clear who they wanted early on.
- arichardson22

Who knows, maybe something does go down.

It just seems like a false narrative every year to get us all excited. A top pick is always being dealt, and every player drafted will be a superstar.

Was the same thing around the expansion draft and around every trade deadline.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
I think it's because the past two drafts it's been clearly McDavid then clearly Matthews. With the uncertainty this year the media can make up trade rumors where Oilers and Leafs pretty much made it clear who they wanted early on.
- arichardson22

No they still made up bullpoop about Laine being the #1
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
Who knows, maybe something does go down.

It just seems like a false narrative every year to get us all excited. A top pick is always being dealt, and every player drafted will be a superstar.

- flyer_nutter

Same as the trade deadline or July 1st.

I pointed it out a while back when we got the #2 pick. Top picks do not get traded in the NHL.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
I currently have to do a best man speech next month in my underwear if the Flyers trade #2
- YuenglingJagr

I'm fairly certain that if I don't go to a draft party tonight, they won't trade #2. Because the last time I went to a draft party, they traded the pick+ for Pronger.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
I'm fairly certain that if I don't go to a draft party tonight, they won't trade #2. Because the last time I went to a draft party, they traded the pick+ for Pronger.
- bodiva88

Is the Hinkie party still going on? Have the people ridden their fixies home yet?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
Same as the trade deadline or July 1st.

I pointed it out a while back when we got the #2 pick. Top picks do not get traded in the NHL.

- YuenglingJagr

May happen, who knows. I just despise most of these media people. (frank)ing rats.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
No they still made up bullpoop about Laine being the #1
- YuenglingJagr


eh yeah but I would consider it they tried to when in reality everyone knew Matthews was Leafs bound.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Who knows, maybe something does go down.

It just seems like a false narrative every year to get us all excited. A top pick is always being dealt, and every player drafted will be a superstar.

Was the same thing around the expansion draft and around every trade deadline.

- flyer_nutter


I hope something doesn't go down. Top line center prospect is about to fall in our lap, take the pick.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
I hope something doesn't go down. Top line center prospect is about to fall in our lap, take the pick.
- arichardson22

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:57 AM ET
CERTAIN DOOM
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
I hope something doesn't go down. Top line center prospect is about to fall in our lap, take the pick.
- arichardson22

It's a easy call. G is fading and you need a future number one C.

Take one of Nolan or Nico and play them as 3C next year. Laugh all the way home.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
CERTAIN DOOM
- Just5

I can imagine what the place will be like if they make some stupid deal including the number 2.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
Alright boys so we need to break 2K comments on here today. 3K is the dream.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Mackenzie just said first pick in play. Devils gonna cost us the Wheat King
- Flyers Time


I don't know if you are kidding or not but this would be very Devils like. Pass up on legitimate offense just to screw us. I want Nolan Patrick in a Flyers sweater so bad!!!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Alright boys so we need to break 2K comments on here today. 3K is the dream.
- Mordecai

[googles sea creatures]
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't know if you are kidding or not but this would be very Devils like. Pass up on legitimate offense just to screw us. I want Nolan Patrick in a Flyers sweater so bad!!!
- SuperSchennBros


Well, they did us a solid favor in 2015 by taking Zacha.
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