I'd rather have Lehtera than Flip. But both is crazy to me. Something more has to be going on than just shipping out Read or someone.
- Mononoke

Filp is only here for one year. If they fit everything under the cap, then there isn't much of a problem. I just hope there isn't favoritism for the vets.

They still have plenty of money to go get a goalie if they want.

I think we'll look back at the Filppula move as mostly a waste, but I do think Lehtera can help the team a bit. I don't think he'll be Umberger type dead salary.

I realize that Hextall makes that call, but if that's the case, then somebody's heading out -- they might start Patrick on the wing, but why? Kid's played center his whole life
- AllInForFlyers

Weal-Giroux-Simmonds
Lindblom-Couturier-Voracek
Filppula-Patrick-Konecny
Raffl-Lehtera-Weise/Read
Laughton

One thing that is obvious. Hex is truly building for the future.

I understand keeping G and V because the value there is more than you will ever get in return.

Keep it going. The exit of the tunnel isn't here yet, but filtering some kids in more and more is the right path. The club needed a drastic infusion of skill from top to bottom. Glad to see it.

flyers finally have a good top nine and we trade it.

How many years left on his deal?
- BiggE

2 I believe

Filp is only here for one year. If they fit everything under the cap, then there isn't much of a problem. I just hope there isn't favoritism for the vets.

They still have plenty of money to go get a goalie if they want.

I think we'll look back at the Filppula move as mostly a waste, but I do think Lehtera can help the team a bit. I don't think he'll be Umberger type dead salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't know if the Filppula move is a waste, per se. It may end up that way, but I don't think it was when they made it.

Do they make the Schenn deal if they don't get Nolan Patrick? I'm not sure.

If Frost develops into a solid NHL'er I'm 100% fine with this deal. Obviously Lehtera is not part of the long term plans.
- Mordecai

I love the kid. One of my favorite watches. Just didn't know where he'd go. Thought he'd go ~35-40, but clearly some teams loved him too and weren't hesitant. I see a guy with 2C potential that can play on both ends, maybe even be a PP right wall QB. If you trust me, know that he's a terrific hockey player in the truest sense, despite being average size. Skilled, smart, good skater, high compete, upside and floor.

Frosty is a good nickname I gotta admit.
- hereticpride

His dad Andy was Leafs PA guy and on the radio, q107 in Toronto.

One thing that is obvious. Hex is truly building for the future.

I understand keeping G and V because the value there is more than you will ever get in return.

Keep it going. The exit of the tunnel isn't here yet, but filtering some kids in more and more is the right path. The club needed a drastic infusion of skill from top to bottom. Glad to see it.
- flyer_nutter

Yeah it really seems like Hexy is all about building his own prospect pool and having them grow together. Not that G, Simmer, Jake, etc cant be contributing pieces. I'm thrilled to have Patrick in the fold and the more I read about Frost the more I love this kid.

Love the Patrick pick though would have been happy with Nico..

Not sure on the Schenn deal yet..
On paper it looks like a team that couldnt score gave up one of its only proven goal scorers. Yes I know they have prospects are just that until they actually do something in the league. I like the return for Schenn in the form of the picks. Too early to say if it is a good or bad move.

My guess is Hexy has more moves coming..SHould be an interesting rest of the summer.

I don't know if the Filppula move is a waste, per se. It may end up that way, but I don't think it was when they made it.

Do they make the Schenn deal if they don't get Nolan Patrick? I'm not sure.
- johndewar

I think the 2nd overall pick changed everything.

I don't know if the Filppula move is a waste, per se. It may end up that way, but I don't think it was when they made it.

Do they make the Schenn deal if they don't get Nolan Patrick? I'm not sure.
- johndewar

We got a 4th and a 7th along with Filppula, so definitely not a waste.

Filp is only here for one year. If they fit everything under the cap, then there isn't much of a problem. I just hope there isn't favoritism for the vets.

They still have plenty of money to go get a goalie if they want.

I think we'll look back at the Filppula move as mostly a waste, but I do think Lehtera can help the team a bit. I don't think he'll be Umberger type dead salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

Lehtera can help -- he's not a bad player. A little soft, but he's not a bad player -- he drives you nuts because he won't shoot. Have literally seen the guy wide open in the slot with the puck on his stick send a back pass out to Pietrangelo on the point

Multiple times, as in multiple, multiple, multiple times

If he's here, get ready for it. It will happen

2 I believe
- Mordecai

Then cap wise, I don't see any problem. If he sucks, oh well, then he's a high priced spare forward for a couple of years, no biggie. Between Fip, Umbergers buyout penalty and Read, they are shedding 10.125 million next year and they got rid of Schenns 5.125 million. They will be fine. Getting 2 firsts for Schenn is a good deal.

Yeah it really seems like Hexy is all about building his own prospect pool and having them grow together. Not that G, Simmer, Jake, etc cant be contributing pieces. I'm thrilled to have Patrick in the fold and the more I read about Frost the more I love this kid.
- Mordecai

I know every club has pieces in their prospect pool that they are excited about. I enjoy this phase of the build, to finally see kids coming up and playing.

female dog about it a lot, but Hak better not far too much leash or favour the vets too much. The kids need to play, and have room/confidence to grow.

I also have to say taking Schenn out also makes an already soft team softer to play against..

I know the argument is the Pens dont have any real physical players but having , arguably, 2 of the top 3 players in the world covers up for a lot.

I think the 2nd overall pick changed everything.
- Mordecai

Exactly. It provided Hextall with cover and flexibility to do that Schenn deal.

I'm a fan of the Frost pick, even if it doesn't pan out for whatever reason. I like the mindset.

We got a 4th and a 7th along with Filppula, so definitely not a waste.
- Feanor

He's off the books after this year. Plus, if he plays well, he could be the savvy two way forward added by some playoff team at the TDL.

I also have to say taking Schenn out also makes an already soft team softer to play against..

I know the argument is the Pens dont have any real physical players but having , arguably, 2 of the top 3 players in the world covers up for a lot.
- opeth_pa

Meh, Schenn doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of opponents. Just adding Morin will make the whole team feel a little bigger

I also have to say taking Schenn out also makes an already soft team softer to play against..

I know the argument is the Pens dont have any real physical players but having , arguably, 2 of the top 3 players in the world covers up for a lot.
- opeth_pa

Nolan Patrick isn't a soft kid.

I don't think Oskar Lindblom is either.

We got 2 firsts for Schenn.

2 firsts.

We got 2 firsts for Schenn.

2 firsts.
- Giroux_Is_God

I've been saying all summer that I have full faith in the Flyers scouts after these last few years but man, I have to see some tape on this Frost kid. Some big name prospects were still there that you'd think would fill more of the needs in our system over what sounds like a pretty average defensive Center prospect.

I don't know if the Filppula move is a waste, per se. It may end up that way, but I don't think it was when they made it.

Do they make the Schenn deal if they don't get Nolan Patrick? I'm not sure.
- johndewar

Ever since Hexy took over, the team has been lukewarm on Schenn (no pun intended). I have a feeling Hexy shopped him pretty hard and this was the best offer.

Like I said last offseason, the Flyers should move Schenn when his value was at its highest. I imagine they could have gotten a lot more for him last offseason.

I also have to say taking Schenn out also makes an already soft team softer to play against..

I know the argument is the Pens dont have any real physical players but having , arguably, 2 of the top 3 players in the world covers up for a lot.
- opeth_pa

I get the physical element, but I have seen Schenn really only consistently provide that against the Caps in round 1 - where hitting is all he basically did.

Do agree they need to be harder to play against overall, but these aren't the Flyers of old. I am glad they aren't just trying to be a clone of the Kings - dont believe in that model.