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Hughjass
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.15.2017

Jun 23 @ 9:47 PM ET
Whats the condition on the 2nd pick?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:47 PM ET
Well we have a hole on the PP unit now...
- hereticpride


I bet Nolan Patrick can play on the PP.
scorachek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mount Joy, PA
Joined: 12.22.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
If Brayden Schenn were a better player at even strength, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
- johndewar

this
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Whoaaaaaaaa!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
4th line I guess. He makes a lot of money though. Basically the same salary as Schenn, but for 1 less year.
- PhillySportsGuy


I am just a little baffled. They got a haul for Schenn in the regard that you get the first this year and the conditional next -- want to see what the condition is -- but getting another center...man.

See, this is exactly what I was talking about why they didn't need Filppula. Lehtera IS Filppula. You didn't need to do the Filppula deal when you did it, but you did and before someone tells me that you can move Filppula to wing, well, that's not what you said you got him for and again, you didn't need to do it two months ago
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Great return plus frees up cap space for something bigger as Mackenzie just said
- mydoglicks



Doesn't free up that much space.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
So Giroux to Ottawa is imminent right?
- Mordecai

Hope so
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
Whats the condition on the 2nd pick?
- Hughjass

Top 10 protected

Can defer to 2019 for an additional 3rd in 2019
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
Black book entry for frost please.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
Whats the condition on the 2nd pick?
- Hughjass


If it's between 1-30, we don't get it
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
What is the story on Frost? Seems a bit off the board from what I see of the rankings.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
how did Hextall get two first round picks fr Schenn? the conditional pick is top ten protected, where St.Louis can push the first rounder going to philly to 2019, if they do that they add a thrid rounder. this is a crazy haul fom Schenn.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
Seriously though, Tolvanen must've had horrible interviews to still be on the board this late with his skill.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
I am just a little baffled. They got a haul for Schenn in the regard that you get the first this year and the conditional next -- want to see what the condition is -- but getting another center...man.

See, this is exactly what I was talking about why they didn't need Filppula. Lehtera IS Filppula. You didn't need to do the Filppula deal when you did it, but you did and before someone tells me that you can move Filppula to wing, well, that's not what you said you got him for and again, you didn't need to do it two months ago

- AllInForFlyers


Not the same kind of players. Filppula is more skilled. Hockey is a fluid sport.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
FWIW I'm very high on Frost and had him as a borderline 1st. Actually one of my favorite sleeper guys. Just loved watching him. He's a very very Hextall pick. I'm still unsure about the value in the Schenn trade, and Frost isn't the best fit as a playmaking center, but if you really believe in BPA.....so be it. He has a lot of upside, has a good floor, is still physically developing, and is whip smart all over the ice. High compete too. Flyers like what they like, and this pick does make sense to me. He's a good pick, though 27 is reaching based on consensus. Not by a ton though.

Need to digest this one.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
Doesn't free up that much space.
- MJL


I didn't realize how much money Lehtera made. Yowsa.

That explains the draft picks that came back our way.

I'm still good with this deal.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Mixed feelings but I'm leaning towards feeling good about the deal. Just don't know much at all regarding Frost
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
If he gets put on a line w/ decent players, he can produce.
- Tomahawk


Can he get above Giroux, Couturier, Filppula and Patrick as a center?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Love him, but SuperSchennBros must be on suicide watch. Keep him in your prayers.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
How good is Lehtera???
- WhirlingDervish


Decent set-up man, doesn't pull the trigger enough, sees the ice well and his passes are accurate and can be handled. Responsible defensively

Skates about average

Isn't physical at all, can get knocked off pucks, isn't gonna remind anybody of Keith Primeau
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Lehtora replaces mep, the condition on pick is top 10 protected
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Well, Brayden was the guy I thought was most likely to be traded...this deal had me feeling a little underwhelmed at the moment.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
FWIW I'm very high on Frost and had him as a borderline 1st. Actually one of my favorite sleeper guys. Just loved watching him. He's a very very Hextall pick. I'm still unsure about the value in the Schenn trade, and Frost isn't the best fit as a playmaking center, but if you really believe in BPA.....so be it. He has a lot of upside, has a good floor, is still physically developing, and is whip smart all over the ice. High compete too. Flyers like what they like. He's a good pick, though 27 is reaching based on consensus. Not by a ton though.

Need to digest this one.

- Mononoke

This makes me feel better
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:51 PM ET
Lehtera 4.7 million cap hit. Had 7 goals last year.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:52 PM ET
FWIW I'm very high on Frost and had him as a borderline 1st. Actually one of my favorite sleeper guys. Just loved watching him. He's a very very Hextall pick. I'm still unsure about the value in the Schenn trade, and Frost isn't the best fit as a playmaking center, but if you really believe in BPA.....so be it. He has a lot of upside, has a good floor, is still physically developing, and is whip smart all over the ice. He's a good pick, though 27 is reaching based on consensus. Not by a ton though.

Need to digest this one.

- Mononoke


I like it. Hextall is putting his stamp of things.
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