nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
|
|
|
Just saw the Oshie deal. Have the Caps lost their minds, 8 years?? - BiggE
5.75.....sure, ok. 8 years? holy hell my goodness I pray simmonds doesnt ask for 8 yrs. |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Doesn't matter. - MJL
It MAY not matter
But probably will |
|
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
|
|
|
The words of a hockeybuzz GM - Mononoke
I'm not a GM of anything. That title can be bestowed on those who think they know everything about every player right into the 6th round of the draft.
Here is what some don't know, or don't understand. There comes a time for teams when you go for it. When you forget about the future somewhat and go all in. When a team is at that point, every NHL GM would go for it. That is the ultimate goal which is to win the Cup. If you never get there, what's the point? Just to be a decent team every year?
|
|
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
|
|
|
Yes he is, as he should. What is the sense of having Ovechkin and all the other players if you don't go for it when you have the opportunity?
If re-signing Simmonds is what has to be done to give the team a legitimate shot at the Cup then I'm 100% behind it. - MJL
Well that's the issue. I don't think what the Caps did is stupid for their short term success, but it certainly hurts them long term. They're also one of the best teams in the NHL. The flyers aren't, and as it looks an extension like that would severely handcuff the young core of the Flyers chances of winning a cup in their prime and would likely guarantee some of them are moved
|
|
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
|
|
|
The Oshie deal is a trade off. Lower AAV for security of term. The Caps are in a position to win now. McClellan doesn't care about the 8 years. If they don't win, he won't be around - MJL
the owner should care about 8 yrs for a 30 yr old player. |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
if the caps go on to win 2 or 3 cups then yeah i agree that Oshie's contract "won't matter" in the sense that they will gain some leniency with the fans for a few years. if they continue to flounder in the 2nd round, that contract is going to be a huggggeeee problem going forward.
quick correction, no matter what, that contract is going to become a problem. but if they win, it's like 5% less of a problem i guess |
|
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
|
|
|
N O L A N P A T R I C K - hereticpride
You seem set on him |
|
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
|
|
|
It MAY not matter
But probably will - Mordecai
I'll put doesn't matter in context. It's a gamble and it's one most GM's would take. 5 years from now, 5.75 AAV isn't going to be a lot. The odds are high that Oshie will decline to the point of not living up to the contract. If the Caps aren't going to go for it at this point, then they might as well have a fire sale and move a lot of players.
|
|
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
|
|
|
the owner should care about 8 yrs for a 30 yr old player. - nastyflyergirl
I think the 8 years is not as big of a deal as it is made out to be. The owner wants to win, I would assume.
|
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Nico seems like a pretty funny guy while Nolan is a bit awkward |
|
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
|
|
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
|
|
|
You seem set on him - ob18
|
|
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
|
|
|
BiggE said he would pay our bail Mono dont worry - Mordecai
Wait ., what?? |
|
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
|
|
|
Well that's the issue. I don't think what the Caps did is stupid for their short term success, but it certainly hurts them long term. They're also one of the best teams in the NHL. The flyers aren't, and as it looks an extension like that would severely handcuff the young core of the Flyers chances of winning a cup in their prime and would likely guarantee some of them are moved - YuenglingJagr
I think there is a variable missing in your equation and that's re-signing Simmonds could increase the chances of the Flyers core winning a Cup in the future. He could remain a very good player well into his 30's.
|
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Wait ., what?? - BiggE
it was a leap of faith okay
trust the process |
|
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
|
|
|
I think there is a variable missing in your equation and that's re-signing Simmonds could increase the chances of the Flyers core winning a Cup in the future. He could remain a very good player well into his 30's. - MJL
It might. But there's no denying it increases the likelihood of losing a young player and or being forced to sign bridge contracts |
|
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
|
|
|
Patrick was just on the FAN 590 and said it has always been his dream to play in Philly |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Nico has tattoos |
|
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
|
|
|
Nico seems like a pretty funny guy while Nolan is a bit awkward - Mordecai
McDavid level awkward? |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Patrick was just on the FAN 590 and said it has always been his dream to play in Philly - 2Real
RippedFuel? is that you? |
|
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
|
|
|
it was a leap of faith okay
trust the process - Mordecai
Depending on how much scotch I drink, anything is possible |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
McDavid level awkward? - 2Real
not quite. but awkward enough to bother me |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
Depending on how much scotch I drink, anything is possible - BiggE
'atta boy |
|
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
|
|
|
Nico has tattoos - Mordecai
Patrick has a tat too |
|
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX Joined: 03.10.2013
|
|
|
Please post a gif so we can see what it's like - YuenglingJagr
There's about 200 people listening and one weird guy in a hawks jersey going crazy and playing hackeysack |
|
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
|
|
Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
|
|
|
There's about 200 people listening and one weird guy in a hawks jersey going crazy and playing hackeysack - bulet13
sounds about right |
|