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DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:39 AM ET

Yup, unless the Knight's unprotected 2018 1st is part of the deal, there is nothing to discuss.

- BiggE


There is nothing to discuss
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:39 AM ET
I don't see a particular benefit to added quantity of picks this year (even in round one), especially when they already have 11 picks. Pretty high chance you end up with something along lines of a decent top-six player and two future role players or even a miss among the three. Would rather have a prospect like Nolan, keep developing what's already in house, and trust the scouts to hit on at least a couple other future NHLers from among the picks after the first round.
- bmeltzer


Trading for picks always seems like the popular answer to everything. It's been beaten to death that this year is a weak draft.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:39 AM ET
https://sportsday.dallasn...tars-consider-trading-him

Speaking of Dallas and trades
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Jun 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
If they are dealing with Dallas for a goalie I would like to see Roussel included in a deal with Read a part going back. The guy is a 10-15 goal scorer, a player who creates havoc, and kills penalties. A player the Flyers need
- 3flyerkids

The dude every Flyer in the dressing room wants to punch in the face repeatedly?
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jun 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
If they are dealing with Dallas for a goalie I would like to see Roussel included in a deal with Read a part going back. The guy is a 10-15 goal scorer, a player who creates havoc, and kills penalties. A player the Flyers need
- 3flyerkids


I don't think Stars are looking to move Roussel, however.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
The dude every Flyer in the dressing room wants to punch in the face repeatedly?
- SuperSchennBros


On the ice, yes. Not a bad guy off the ice.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
If they are dealing with Dallas for a goalie I would like to see Roussel included in a deal with Read a part going back. The guy is a 10-15 goal scorer, a player who creates havoc, and kills penalties. A player the Flyers need
- 3flyerkids


Works for me, I'd make the Stars take back Weise in return.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
I don't think Stars are looking to move Roussel, however.
- bmeltzer


A rich man's Rinaldo, a poor man's Marchand.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
If they are dealing with Dallas for a goalie I would like to see Roussel included in a deal with Read a part going back. The guy is a 10-15 goal scorer, a player who creates havoc, and kills penalties. A player the Flyers need
- 3flyerkids

I would rather lose Weise
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Jun 23 @ 8:43 AM ET
Mackenzie just said first pick in play. Devils gonna cost us the Wheat King
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:43 AM ET
"Imagine the Haul for Simmonds"
the haul could be huge. Remember, he came back WITH Schenn for Richards.
Last 2 years, Schenn and Simmer, about 115 goals, Richards, out of hockey.
The Canadians used to be famous for this, trade a guy a year OR TWO early and get a package of young players and high picks. Not a lot of consistent 30 goal scorers available via trade, locked in for two years on a great deal. Can always resign him as a free agent. I don't see them paying him Jake type deal at 30 though.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
I don't think Stars are looking to move Roussel, however.
- bmeltzer

Steve Ott.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
Works for me, I'd make the Stars take back Weise in return.
- BiggE



Makes sense...done!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
There is nothing to discuss
- DutchSenators

That is my line, new guy
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:45 AM ET
Mackenzie just said first pick in play. Devils gonna cost us the Wheat King
- Flyers Time

There is nothing to discuss
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:45 AM ET
The dude every Flyer in the dressing room wants to punch in the face repeatedly?
- SuperSchennBros


That's the way it is in the NHL. I'm sure Keith Acton made a lot of Flyers nuts before he came here back in the day. Roussel is one of those guys you hate when he is an opponent and you love when he is your teammate. Nick Cousins is the same type of player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:46 AM ET
"Imagine the Haul for Simmonds"
the haul could be huge. Remember, he came back WITH Schenn for Richards.
Last 2 years, Schenn and Simmer, about 115 goals, Richards, out of hockey.
The Canadians used to be famous for this, trade a guy a year OR TWO early and get a package of young players and high picks. Not a lot of consistent 30 goal scorers available via trade, locked in for two years on a great deal. Can always resign him as a free agent. I don't see them paying him Jake type deal at 30 though.

- jaws1955


Keith Allen did the same thing in the late 70's. It's called smart asset management.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:47 AM ET
Tickets to the actual draft got too expensive but I'm going to the fan fest outside the UC today
dominik7777
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:49 AM ET
Would you guys trade Amac for Niemi straight up....... or Amac and Simmonds for Niemi and Seguin?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:49 AM ET
Mackenzie just said first pick in play. Devils gonna cost us the Wheat King
- Flyers Time


Vegas want the Brandon Wheat King.

Wheat Kings always makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Vcbm-XWtg
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:50 AM ET
Would you guys trade Amac for Niemi straight up....... or Amac and Simmonds for Niemi and Seguin?
- dominik7777


Why would Dallas ever ever ever make this trade
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Jun 23 @ 8:50 AM ET
Vegas want the Brandon Wheat King.

Wheat Kings always makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Vcbm-XWtg

- Feanor

How dare them
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:50 AM ET
Vegas want the Brandon Wheat King.

Wheat Kings always makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Vcbm-XWtg

- Feanor


Please let this happen.

Nico!
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:50 AM ET
Keith Allen did the same thing in the late 70's. It's called smart asset management.
- BiggE


it's harder to do that with the cap in place. Simmer might be the only guy we have under contract that will work for. That said, I don't want to trade him.
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:52 AM ET
That's the way it is in the NHL. I'm sure Keith Acton made a lot of Flyers nuts before he came here back in the day. Roussel is one of those guys you hate when he is an opponent and you love when he is your teammate. Nick Cousins is the same type of player.
- BiggE

That's why the Flyers should ask about him if dealing with Dallas. The Flyers need this type of player. it seems that Manning and a 30 goal scorer were the only ones to drop the gloves. I don't want to say they were a "soft" team last year, but they were a team who needs more "character". Roussel is no Hartnell but he pisses people off and isn't afraid to drop them.
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