Steven_Seagull
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Yeah, totes all him and nothing to do with #97 in the middle... - lumlums
Yeah, like, totes! |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Possibly...but you do need a winger who will go get the puck and he could improve, it's not like he's been in the league a long time. Willie ain't going in there to take a check and get the puck...but yes I do agree with you ( him being the weakest on the line )...but I also see why he's there. - Garnie
we need a guy who will dig for pucks and score.
and i don't think it's rychel. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Friedman says Chicago moving up to 7th overall from arizona - ClarksonDavid
Panarin in the works maybe? |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Panarin in the works maybe? - Garnie
To the Leafs? |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Panarin in the works maybe? - Garnie
gotta to be a good player. hawks have zero prospects and its a long ways from #7 to #26.
probably going to dump hossa's ltir ass on the yotes too. |
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Friedman says Chicago moving up to 7th overall from arizona - ClarksonDavid
Wtf is Arizona doing |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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we need a guy who will dig for pucks and score.
and i don't think it's rychel. - Tumbleweed
How many goals are going to come from a top line after Matthews scores 40 and Nylander will be wanting just as many....there's only so much that can go around on that line. You need a guy who's willing to get the puck and give it up to the guy hanging around the front ( Matthews ) Comparing our team to Pens is tough, you see Crosby going into the corner to get the puck and dishing...where as Hyman is getting to the corner and Matthews is the guy hanging out front usually. I'd rather Matthews and Willie taking the shots |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Friedman says Chicago moving up to 7th overall from arizona - ClarksonDavid
Probably would like to get Heiskanen or Makar - or maybe Tippet
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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To the Leafs? - Steven_Seagull
to the yotes |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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How many goals are going to come from a top line after Matthews scores 40 and Nylander will be wanting just as many....there's only so much that can go around on that line. You need a guy who's willing to get the puck and give it up to the guy hanging around the front ( Matthews ) Comparing our team to Pens is tough, you see Crosby going into the corner to get the puck and dishing...where as Hyman is getting to the corner and Matthews is the guy hanging out front usually. I'd rather Matthews and Willie taking the shots - Garnie
need a guy that can score more than 10 though. lots of chances missed by hyman. |
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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Sure I guess, you can look at this way...his center scored the most 5v5 goals in the whole league while having Hyman on his line. You can say it was all Auston if you want or we could say it's a team game and maybe Hyman helped him hit those #'s along with Nylander.
I agree it would be nice to have a little better winger for Matthews but it's also nice to spread out the talent over 3 lines. Hyman does usually get to the puck 1st and puts up a battle along the boards...something you won't see Nylander doing too often...we could drop him back to the 2nd or third line but who do we move up and what does it do to that line? - annoyed
Hyman only had 18A so he wasn't involved in 22 of Matthews' goals. And Matthews had 29A and Hyman had only 10G....
The only thing Hyman does that keeps him on that line is forecheck hard and dig out the puck like a hound dog.
Rychel or Kapanen can do that just as good and both have better hands. I would think both of them are looking at Hyman seeing the same thing and realizing if they do that at camp plus can score they can take his spot.
Kapanen is surprisingly fast and likes to hit too. And, him and Nylander are best buds.
I would put Kapanen, Matthews, Nylander together and watch the point totals rise. |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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markmark
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 07.27.2010
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Wtf is Arizona doing - TheMussel
"More
.@frank_seravalli on Coyotes: 'They are an absolute mess'."
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Jeffmt
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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How many goals are going to come from a top line after Matthews scores 40 and Nylander will be wanting just as many....there's only so much that can go around on that line. You need a guy who's willing to get the puck and give it up to the guy hanging around the front ( Matthews ) Comparing our team to Pens is tough, you see Crosby going into the corner to get the puck and dishing...where as Hyman is getting to the corner and Matthews is the guy hanging out front usually. I'd rather Matthews and Willie taking the shots - Garnie
18 assists though. That tells me that he's not doing as much to get the puck to those guys as people want to believe he is. If he was effectively getting the puck out of the corners and getting it to the front of the net so the other two can score, he's numbers would look a lot different. Matthews and Nylander created a lot of their own offense last season. |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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"More
.@frank_seravalli on Coyotes: 'They are an absolute mess'."
- markmark
Meh. We’ll see. Media likes to run with that narrative for some reason.
Chayka crushed Holland on the chychurn trade last year. everybody in the media said the opposite.
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Jeffmt
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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Hyman only had 18A so he wasn't involved in 22 of Matthews' goals. And Matthews had 29A and Hyman had only 10G....
The only thing Hyman does that keeps him on that line is forecheck hard and dig out the puck like a hound dog.
Rychel or Kapanen can do that just as good and both have better hands. I would think both of them are looking at Hyman seeing the same thing and realizing if they do that at camp plus can score they can take his spot.
Kapanen is surprisingly fast and likes to hit too. And, him and Nylander are best buds.
I would put Kapanen, Matthews, Nylander together and watch the point totals rise. - underhill14
Honestly, you could probably put Martin on that line and he'd happily dig out pucks and crack 30 points. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting they do that. |
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need a guy that can score more than 10 though. lots of chances missed by hyman. - Tumbleweed
the thing is, most of those missed chances were the results of his own hard work. Many partial breakaways and the like generated from his hustle and his hustle alone, just couldn't finish. I don't recall too many chances coming off a feed from AM or WN, as those guys were often looking to finish themselves. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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"More
.@frank_seravalli on Coyotes: 'They are an absolute mess'."
- markmark
Maybe yotes are going to pull a Pocklington and sell their best assets for cash before they sell the team or are incarcerated.
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Maybe I'm just unaccustomed to you actually having one...? - lumlums
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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who cares, never played a full season - not once in 8 years. More fragile than Lupul! Buyer beware. - winsix
I'm not going to pretend to know much about Hamonic other than everyone seems to be interested. Obviously I've seen the Islanders play, but I don't recall ever noticing him.
But why is everyone interested? There is nothing in his numbers, advanced or otherwise, which speak to a player anyone would need this much. He appears to be slotted in over his head in NYI already . . In 2014, he was decent, but that was more a product of the team being decent. In other years, he has not stood out in any way from the play of his team.
He, numerically, is about the same as DeKeyser (who has played 80gp+ twice).
I just don't see it. |
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annoyed
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Location: ON Joined: 10.28.2013
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Hyman only had 18A so he wasn't involved in 22 of Matthews' goals. And Matthews had 29A and Hyman had only 10G....
The only thing Hyman does that keeps him on that line is forecheck hard and dig out the puck like a hound dog.
Rychel or Kapanen can do that just as good and both have better hands. I would think both of them are looking at Hyman seeing the same thing and realizing if they do that at camp plus can score they can take his spot.
Kapanen is surprisingly fast and likes to hit too. And, him and Nylander are best buds.
I would put Kapanen, Matthews, Nylander together and watch the point totals rise. - underhill14
I don't think Kap would last 20 games being 1st to the puck along the boards...but who knows. Just because you don't get an assist doesn't mean they didn't cause the turnover that turned into a goal...but yes, it would be nice if he a little more scoring touch....maybe this will his year, I read he's been out in the garage with his dad working on his shot.
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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I'm not going to pretend to know much about Hamonic other than everyone seems to be interested. Obviously I've seen the Islanders play, but I don't recall ever noticing him.
But why is everyone interested? There is nothing in his numbers, advanced or otherwise, which speak to a player anyone would need this much. He appears to be slotted in over his head in NYI already . . In 2014, he was decent, but that was more a product of the team being decent. In other years, he has not stood out in any way from the play of his team.
He, numerically, is about the same as DeKeyser (who has played 80gp+ twice).
I just don't see it. - Monkeypunk
I agree - move on. Barf Snow trying to pull a bullpoop Benning type of hyping of a plug that isn't even worth a second rounder.
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annoyed
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Location: ON Joined: 10.28.2013
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Hyman only had 18A so he wasn't involved in 22 of Matthews' goals. And Matthews had 29A and Hyman had only 10G....
The only thing Hyman does that keeps him on that line is forecheck hard and dig out the puck like a hound dog.
Rychel or Kapanen can do that just as good and both have better hands. I would think both of them are looking at Hyman seeing the same thing and realizing if they do that at camp plus can score they can take his spot.
Kapanen is surprisingly fast and likes to hit too. And, him and Nylander are best buds.
I would put Kapanen, Matthews, Nylander together and watch the point totals rise. - underhill14
I think at the end of the day, the common refrain from all of us is, "There's got to be anybody better than Hyman!". He's decent at fetching pucks, although I noticed later in the year when the intensity increased, he lost more battles than he won.
I'm not sure Kapanen would be any better in that role - but I'd agree he's a superior player in almost every aspect.
I think Uncle Leo probably wins the most board battles but doesn't have the speed. Is Rychel fast? I think Grundstrom is also supposedly somewhat gritty on the puck as well, but I don't know how ready he is, yet. |
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