Antilles
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McDavid is pretty much guaranteed a 9.5m a year deal starting next season if he wants it. If Edmonton doesn't offer that much, GM's won't hesitate to break the unwritten rule and offer sheet him at the 2 firsts, a second, a third level. This seems like Edmonton just being proactive. Strome doesn't seem like a great return, but he is probably better than you'd get for Eberle if you were forced into trading Eberle 13 months from now for cap reasons. |
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It is a no win situation.
Even is Strome excels this season and lights it up, then he is going to ask for a big raise the following year when his agreement is up. If he puts up 50-60 points then he is going to ask for $4-$5 million |
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Ihateallofu
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Location: Meh Joined: 11.09.2014
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Snow schools chiarelli again
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Huh? So it was for cap space to sign Russel? I thought that they needed a dman? And harmonic, barrie and others have been talked about for awhile! Just odd for those wanting a dman they couldn't get one for ebbs?so it was a cheaper forward then or cap?...actually it could solve both! And maybe the thinking was saving cap and replacing ebb! And not questioning value, contract, or who's better! Just why - MR.Hunter
Friedman reported that the price for Hamonic was Eberle with a significant plus so, assuming that was the case, a trade for him didn't seem likely. The next step for me would've been DeHaan as I think he'd be a great fill-in for Sekera while he's out without costing too much. But alas, that wasn't meant to be. |
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HAHAHA good trade oilers |
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It is a no win situation.
Even is Strome excels this season and lights it up, then he is going to ask for a big raise the following year when his agreement is up. If he puts up 50-60 points then he is going to ask for $4-$5 million - oilcat
I'd argue probably closer to 3.5 to 4mil as his scoring history isn't strong enough to suggest he'd get more. I've got no qualms with a versatile scoring forward at that sort of cap hit. But first he has to reach that. What if he scores 40? Then we can resign him for closer to 3mil and still have a cheap and versatile scoring forward. In reality, Eberle was likely gone after this contract anyway and trading him next year when we're in cap crunch mode would've probably returned even less. |
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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I'd argue probably closer to 3.5 to 4mil as his scoring history isn't strong enough to suggest he'd get more. I've got no qualms with a versatile scoring forward at that sort of cap hit. But first he has to reach that. What if he scores 40? Then we can resign him for closer to 3mil and still have a cheap and versatile scoring forward. In reality, Eberle was likely gone after this contract anyway and trading him next year when we're in cap crunch mode would've probably returned even less. - MaximumBone
Shhhhh... No common sense here, please. |
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archromat
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Location: Moncton, NB Joined: 01.16.2012
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This trade is exactly what I expected for Eberle. The Oilers got younger and cheaper with the deal and now they can pay for Draisaitl and McDavid.
I have no idea what the OP was expecting. If I was another GM, I'd have shown no interest; I think Eberle lacks intensity (just my conjecture). I certainly wouldn't have offered a top 4 D... the most they would have gotten from me for him (if I was really bad at F) is a couple of 2nds and a 3rd. Ryan Strome? Sure... same mold of player, three years younger, 3.5m/y cheaper.
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Beergu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.15.2008
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McDavid is pretty much guaranteed a 9.5m a year deal starting next season if he wants it. If Edmonton doesn't offer that much, GM's won't hesitate to break the unwritten rule and offer sheet him at the 2 firsts, a second, a third level. This seems like Edmonton just being proactive. Strome doesn't seem like a great return, but he is probably better than you'd get for Eberle if you were forced into trading Eberle 13 months from now for cap reasons. - Antilles
I'm going to guess the extension is 9.7 per, max years.
Side note, would have liked to see us bring in Schlemko to help the D situation. Only cost a 5th, I think that is a missed opportunity. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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McDavid is pretty much guaranteed a 9.5m a year deal starting next season if he wants it. If Edmonton doesn't offer that much, GM's won't hesitate to break the unwritten rule and offer sheet him at the 2 firsts, a second, a third level. This seems like Edmonton just being proactive. Strome doesn't seem like a great return, but he is probably better than you'd get for Eberle if you were forced into trading Eberle 13 months from now for cap reasons. - Antilles
If they don't resign him, someone will offer him 7 years at max. money. Come July 1st, Edmonton should just lock him up for 8 years at $10M. |
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skidmark
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Regina, SK Joined: 03.04.2010
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What interests me more now is what happens on D. I would rather see what I have in Bakersfield than commit a penny to K. Russell. The reason you have an AHL club is to have the depth to step in. Who can take a 5-6 role in the NHL that was on the Condors or somewhere else? I think that's your first go to. Is Ryan Mantha next? Dillon Simpson? David Musil? I'd rather go that way and audition Nurse and Benning as a 3-4 and re-sign Eric Gryba. |
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Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Meh Joined: 11.09.2014
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This trade is exactly what I expected for Eberle. The Oilers got younger and cheaper with the deal and now they can pay for Draisaitl and McDavid.
I have no idea what the OP was expecting. If I was another GM, I'd have shown no interest; I think Eberle lacks intensity (just my conjecture). I certainly wouldn't have offered a top 4 D... the most they would have gotten from me for him (if I was really bad at F) is a couple of 2nds and a 3rd. Ryan Strome? Sure... same mold of player, three years younger, 3.5m/y cheaper. - archromat
Same mold minus the career 60 pt and 25 goal average per 82 gp
The two are only relative in your head cause of this silly narrative that's been concocted
Eberle is a proven top flight scoring right winger over like 7 seasons.
It's no surprise that pc went For a cost cutting measure . And he didn't actually get "schooled" as he this is exactly what he wanted if he couldn't get the defender we needed
But it's a move that made us inferior offensively. Before we're actually a proven contender yet. Shoulda stood pat. |
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Hendo, you seriously need some kool aid! |
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I fully expect Eberle to thrive on the Island with Tavares and I'm completely content with Strome as long as he can bring around 40 points to the table.
Eberle's departure might serve to open up some more offensive time (PP and 5-on-5) for Slepy or Puljujarvi, too. As a result, we're seeing the potential for developmental gains that might've been harder to facilitate with Eberle in the fold. That shouldn't be a major reason for making the trade, but it can serve to further soften the blow. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Snow schools chiarelli again
What a joke - Ihateallofu
I like the trade as an islanders fan of course but Strome just needs to put it together. He very well may with all of the talent you guys have. You guys shed some salary and you got yourselves a kid with a ton of talent. Don't forget Capuano was our coach with Strome so he may just need a change of scenery like just about every player that played with Capuano. Worst coach we've had imo. Hope Strome does well with you |
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doon
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Spruce Grove, AB Joined: 08.27.2008
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Players due for raises next few seasons. Money moved for a younger player with potential. Everyone can keep female doging about Hall and now Ebs, but what did they accomplish for the team? Move on, future is bright. Don't want Russel for that term though.
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remember when you were crying your eyes out about trolling and banging the flag button ? Puzzy
Then after getting evicerated on every handicapped point you made you decided to run to the ole grammar diss and made the same error while doing so?
UBC > Ohio state
Fag - Ihateallofu
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What interests me more now is what happens on D. I would rather see what I have in Bakersfield than commit a penny to K. Russell. The reason you have an AHL club is to have the depth to step in. Who can take a 5-6 role in the NHL that was on the Condors or somewhere else? I think that's your first go to. Is Ryan Mantha next? Dillon Simpson? David Musil? I'd rather go that way and audition Nurse and Benning as a 3-4 and re-sign Eric Gryba. - skidmark
Oesterle is the wiser option. Strong puck mover, solid possession numbers during his stints (small sample size) and the closest comparable to Sekera in play style. |
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Snow schools chiarelli again
What a joke - Ihateallofu
We got 3.5 million cleared up for a grittier fwd with better skating... When Strome matches Eberle in goals everyone can say they told you so |
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I'm going to guess the extension is 9.7 per, max years.
Side note, would have liked to see us bring in Schlemko to help the D situation. Only cost a 5th, I think that is a missed opportunity. - Beergu
agreed on the Schlemko... |
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Snow schools chiarelli again
What a joke - Ihateallofu
Its a cap deal |
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The-O-G
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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This was the best time to trade Eberle. I like Eberle and would prefer him to remain on the team but some people are incapable of projecting salary past this year. Moving Eberle now makes sense for the future. We need a lot of cap space for the multitude of players needing raises in 2018. None more so than McDavid of course.
Not a huge fan of the return but it does check some boxes. Bigger, can "somewhat" play center with a right shot.
Like most I would have preferred to move Eberle for a better defender like Petrovic for example. But you can't even assume Fla had any interest in Eberle.
Cap space open. Insert Strome take out Eberle. Resign Russel, which gives great flexibility to play the left or right. I'd resign Gryba and promote whichever of the three played best with Russel until Sekera gets back. Benning, Nurse, or Gryba.
Chiarelli keeps the team that played extremely well last year largely together. Not exactly a terrible move. - Aerchon
BINGO
Buy high, sell low.
Wait.
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Dont worry Oilers fans....this trade will only be bad until Tre trades Bennett for Hamonic and Flames fans burn the city down |
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Same mold minus the career 60 pt and 25 goal average per 82 gp
The two are only relative in your head cause of this silly narrative that's been concocted
Eberle is a proven top flight scoring right winger over like 7 seasons.
It's no surprise that pc went For a cost cutting measure . And he didn't actually get "schooled" as he this is exactly what he wanted if he couldn't get the defender we needed
But it's a move that made us inferior offensively. Before we're actually a proven contender yet. Shoulda stood pat. - Ihateallofu
Similar mold, but not the same. From what I've gathered from highlights from the past 3 years and from my few memories of what I've watched of him, I've determined the following:
1.) seems to have a heavier wrister (scores from the outside more than Ebs)
2.) seems to have separation speed
3.) the goals that he scores around the net are more "cleaning up garbage"
4.) his PP slotting seems similar to Letestu's
5.) he's CAPABLE of one timers, but doesn't score on them much (highlights)
Assuming this holds true, then we might be looking at a better fit for McLellan than we had with Eberle. I haven't been able to grasp his effectiveness on the cycle or in board play without game tape. |
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Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Meh Joined: 11.09.2014
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I like the trade as an islanders fan of course but Strome just needs to put it together. He very well may with all of the talent you guys have. You guys shed some salary and you got yourselves a kid with a ton of talent. Don't forget Capuano was our coach with Strome so he may just need a change of scenery like just about every player that played with Capuano. Worst coach we've had imo. Hope Strome does well with you - Cptmjl
Schooled was certainly a stretch as it's not not like pc went in and got convinced strome is the equal player. Pc wanted a somewhat comparable player For way cheaper.
Amd it could work out . Strome has skills. But on track record it's tough to swallow.
I just think it's a huge offensive gamble to take on a squad thats trying to win now. And it's not like puju amd cagg couldn't play with ebs there too. You've handicapped yourself offensively and aren't even A proven contender yet
The real crux is what he does with the savings now... |
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