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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
You snowflakes are acting like the Dems when H Clinton lost. He is not dead, he has just moved on. That is the way of life in all professional sports. Get over it and move on. Here is a fact.....From 2003 to 2016 MAF on a single Cup on his own In two years Matt Murray has won 2 Cups One all by himself and one aided by MAF. I think his track record is much better. Use your brain not your heart. It is a business.
- holeinone

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
You snowflakes are acting like the Dems when H Clinton lost. He is not dead, he has just moved on. That is the way of life in all professional sports. Get over it and move on. Here is a fact.....From 2003 to 2016 MAF on a single Cup on his own In two years Matt Murray has won 2 Cups One all by himself and one aided by MAF. I think his track record is much better. Use your brain not your heart. It is a business.
- holeinone



I think most are using their brains here...its just that most have a heart too and he's been part of the organisation for 14 years. Add to this just how nice and likeable he is and some are gonna have a hard time with his departure.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 22 @ 1:49 PM ET

- Feds91Stammer

Hey Feds, what is your take on Tomas Nosek. Will he be a good or great NHLer, or will he not make it. Do you think he gets traded by VGK before the start of the season?
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
Damn...thats not a price to pay at all....easily would give a 5th for D depth....
- MattStrat

Apparently Ruth doesn't want him - passed on him twice for a low price. And apparently other GMs don't think much of him, either. A 5th round pick is damn near worthless.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
Hey Feds, what is your take on Tomas Nosek. Will he be a good or great NHLer, or will he not make it. Do you think he gets traded by VGK before the start of the season?
- so_buzz11

He would currently be a solid 4C and has a 3rd line ceiling. Doesn't hold enough value to be worth trading imo.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
1. Maatta, DP, Sprong, and a 1st for Duchene
2. Re-sign Kunitz for cheap
3. Sign Brendan Smith and reunite the Badger Boys
4. Sign Franson because he is actually good
5. 3 peat

stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jun 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
1. Maatta, DP and a 1st for Duchene
2. Re-sign Kunitz for cheap
3. Sign Brendan Smith and reunite the Badger Boys
4. Sign Franson because he is actually good
5. 3 peat


- Feds91Stammer


There that's better now
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
damn, you're an idiot. No one's even talking about Flower.
- j.boyd919


I was just going to say, no one in here mentioned Fleury, with the exception of one person commenting on people overreacting about it.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
2018 2nd for Schmidt?

It's not like we ever keep our 2nd rd picks anyway
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think most are using their brains here...its just that most have a heart too and he's been part of the organisation for 14 years. Add to this just how nice and likeable he is and some are gonna have a hard time with his departure.
- MattStrat

It is like anything else.......results make the decisions easier. Time to move on. One guy is not a team. Guys are traded all the time. Let it go. Do you think wise decisions are made with the heart. I don't. That means emotions are involved and that in business can kill you.
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
1. Maatta, DP, Sprong, and a 1st for Duchene
2. Re-sign Kunitz for cheap
3. Sign Brendan Smith and reunite the Badger Boys
4. Sign Franson because he is actually good
5. 3 peat


- Feds91Stammer


Too much for duchene. Drop sprong and add sheary and change first to a second
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
Too much for duchene. Drop sprong and add sheary and change first to a second
- rbaurle51

LOL you aren't getting Duchene then.
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
damn, you're an idiot. No one's even talking about Flower.
- j.boyd919

Look in the mirror and you will see what an idiot truly is
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
LOL you aren't getting Duchene then.
- Feds91Stammer


You honestly think it's requires that much for duchene. That's insanity.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
2018 2nd for Schmidt?

It's not like we ever keep our 2nd rd picks anyway

- YouMeAndDupuis9

VGK is making some questionable moves so why not
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
1. Maatta, DP, Sprong, and a 1st for Duchene
2. Re-sign Kunitz for cheap
3. Sign Brendan Smith and reunite the Badger Boys
4. Sign Franson because he is actually good
5. 3 peat


- Feds91Stammer

Nothing like impersonating Garth Snow. Yikes you must be smoking the same stuff that Snow does
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
You honestly think it's requires that much for duchene. That's insanity.
- rbaurle51

Not necessarily but he is a top 50 F in the league capable of playing C and you would be bidding against idiots like Snow and Bergevin. Also you have to look at it as trading Maatta, a burnt out prospect, and 2 futures to put together possibly the best cap era team yet.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
Too much for duchene. Drop sprong and add sheary and change first to a second
- rbaurle51


wtf lol yeah right.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
Nothing like impersonating Garth Snow. Yikes you must be smoking the same stuff that Snow does
- holeinone

Go back into your hole
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:14 PM ET
Can I just request the mods to ban Holeinone right now before he and his dumb anti fleury poop gets people to snap and cause a toxic atmosphere. thank you.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
Can I just request the mods to ban Holeinone right now before he and his dumb anti fleury poop gets people to snap and cause a toxic atmosphere. thank you.
- martox

x2
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Not necessarily but he is a top 50 F in the league capable of playing C and you would be bidding against idiots like Snow and Bergevin. Also you have to look at it as trading Maatta, a burnt out prospect, and 2 futures to put together possibly the best cap era team yet.
- Feds91Stammer


Sprong has higher offensive upside. A 1st is still a lottery pick. And maatta is still a young function top 4D. Maatta alone wouldn't be the stupidest d for forward swap in the last year.
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Not necessarily but he is a top 50 F in the league capable of playing C and you would be bidding against idiots like Snow and Bergevin. Also you have to look at it as trading Maatta, a burnt out prospect, and 2 futures to put together possibly the best cap era team yet.
- Feds91Stammer


I do agree with you, I just don't agree that it would cost that much to win that trade. Sprong will be an impact forward right off the bat that could easily score 20 goals this year, Maatta could possibly turn it around (not hopeful, but possible with his potential), sheary could yield more attention than not given his past season? Colorado isn't the smartest franchise either
rbaurle51
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: McKees Rocks, PA
Joined: 09.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
wtf lol yeah right.
- j.boyd919


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Sprong has higher offensive upside. A 1st is still a lottery pick. And maatta is still a young function top 4D. Maatta alone wouldn't be the stupidest d for forward swap in the last year.
- sditulli

1. Exactly Sprong has better upside. Have to give to get.
2. How is a PIT 1st a lottery pick?
3. Maatta is a lower end top 4 guy and relatively easy to replace.
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