Friedman tweeting that the Flames are in on Hamonic...

Better not be around Bennett!
- Clyde334

Friedman is stealing my thunder!!!!

WTF!!!!

Friedman tweeting that the Flames are in on Hamonic...

Better not be around Bennett!
- Clyde334

They want forwards that can contribute now...I just don't see any deal for Hamonic that wouldn't involve Bennett


Who would interest the Islanders?

-Tkachuk (no way in hell!)
-Frolik (we'd have to add)
-Bennett (that'll be target #1 for Snow)
-Janko (maybe--we'd have to add)
-Ferland (again, we'd have to add)
-Backlund (wouldn't do it unless they added something)


I really like both of these players and would hate to see them go, but what would you guys say to Frolik & Janko for Hamonic? Creates some holes in our top 9, but we do get that legit top 4 dman...

Friedman tweeting that the Flames are in on Hamonic...

Better not be around Bennett!
- Clyde334

Link?

They want forwards that can contribute now...I just don't see any deal for Hamonic that wouldn't involve Bennett


Who would interest the Islanders?

-Tkachuk (no way in hell!)
-Frolik (we'd have to add)
-Bennett (that'll be target #1 for Snow)
-Janko (maybe--we'd have to add)
-Ferland (again, we'd have to add)
-Backlund (wouldn't do it unless they added something)


I really like both of these players and would hate to see them go, but what would you guys say to Frolik & Janko for Hamonic? Creates some holes in our top 9, but we do get that legit top 4 dman...
- Saskabush

To me the interesting one would be Backlund.

I guess everyone in here would be ok with it considering bennett is so poop hot

To me the interesting one would be Backlund.

I guess everyone in here would be ok with it considering bennett is so poop hot

- The-O-G

Bennett and Brouwer for Hamonic

To me the interesting one would be Backlund.

I guess everyone in here would be ok with it considering bennett is so poop hot

- The-O-G

C'mon dude, you're better than this. It isn't about what Bennett is now. It's about what he could become (and imo, sooner rather than later- I'm expecting him to break out this year).
And no to Backlund He's far too important right now. With either of these 2, we need to wait and see what Janko is.
It's a long shot but Tre has pulled things off before. I wonder if Shinkaruk interests Snow at all. He's a young, (possibly) NHL ready, cost effective player. NYI are up on the cap and need to add depth scoring now that they acquired Eberle. Obviously we'd have to add more but I don't think Tre wants to mess with his core.

C'mon dude, you're better than this. It isn't about what Bennett is now. It's about what he could become (and imo, sooner rather than later- I'm expecting him to break out this year).
And no to Backlund He's far too important right now. With either of these 2, we need to wait and see what Janko is.
It's a long shot but Tre has pulled things off before. I wonder if Shinkaruk interests Snow at all. He's a young, (possibly) NHL ready, cost effective player. NYI are up on the cap and need to add depth scoring now that they acquired Eberle. Obviously we'd have to add more but I don't think Tre wants to mess with his core.
- TandA4Flames

Haha I am just busting everyone's chops.

Speaking of "dude you're better than this".....Shinkaruk? You kidding me? Vegas just took a UFA 35 year old D man over him in the expansion draft. He is literally useless.

To me the interesting one would be Backlund.

I guess everyone in here would be ok with it considering bennett is so poop hot

- The-O-G

We do have a decision to make with him at the end of this year. If Bennett breaks out and Backlund continues to gain recognition we might not be able to afford both of them.

If Backlund has another season like he did last year (or he improves upon it) then I fully expect him to be getting a long term deal at ~6million.

If Bennett gets flipped to wing, then there isn't really an issue and we could probably keep both.

I wouldn't trade Backlund for Hamonic straight up though. I think Backlund is the better player and we'll win more games with him in the lineup than we would with Hamonic.

We do have a decision to make with him at the end of this year. If Bennett breaks out and Backlund continues to gain recognition we might not be able to afford both of them.

If Backlund has another season like he did last year (or he improves upon it) then I fully expect him to be getting a long term deal at ~6million.

If Bennett gets flipped to wing, then there isn't really an issue and we could probably keep both.

I wouldn't trade Backlund for Hamonic straight up though. I think Backlund is the better player and we'll win more games with him in the lineup than we would with Hamonic.
- Saskabush

Totally agree....maybe it's time to jump ship now?

It really all depends on how they feel about Janko. If he is ready, maybe this is the deal they do?

For.........
- The-O-G

Better be for something good ...I like fox a lot ...I think he might end up better than all our D prospects

If Treliving trades Bennett for Hamonic he should be fired. Bennett is still an elite prospect and could easily be the Flames best centre in a few years. They seem to have a log jam at centre right now, but there's really no one else coming after Jankowski, and maybe wait until Jankowski has played more than one NHL game before cementing him into one of the centre spots for the Flames.

If the team has stupidly given up on Bennett already, they better be trading him for a legit top pairing guy instead of a pretty good 3-4. It's a trade they shouldn't be making at all unless they were legit cup contenders, and they're really not there yet.

Haha I am just busting everyone's chops.

Speaking of "dude you're better than this".....Shinkaruk? You kidding me? Vegas just took a UFA 35 year old D man over him in the expansion draft. He is literally useless.
- The-O-G

Shink isn't useless ....he gives Canucks fans hope that Benning can win a trade ...which helps keep Benning in Vancouver ...

If Treliving trades Bennett for Hamonic he should be fired. Bennett is still an elite prospect and could easily be the Flames best centre in a few years. They seem to have a log jam at centre right now, but there's really no one else coming after Jankowski, and maybe wait until Jankowski has played more than one NHL game before cementing him into one of the centre spots for the Flames.

If the team has stupidly given up on Bennett already, they better be trading him for a legit top pairing guy instead of a pretty good 3-4. It's a trade they shouldn't be making at all unless they were legit cup contenders, and they're really not there yet.
- Hunkulese

I like this train of thought

If Treliving trades Bennett for Hamonic he should be fired. Bennett is still an elite prospect and could easily be the Flames best centre in a few years. They seem to have a log jam at centre right now, but there's really no one else coming after Jankowski, and maybe wait until Jankowski has played more than one NHL game before cementing him into one of the centre spots for the Flames.

If the team has stupidly given up on Bennett already, they better be trading him for a legit top pairing guy instead of a pretty good 3-4. It's a trade they shouldn't be making at all unless they were legit cup contenders, and they're really not there yet.
- Hunkulese

1. Could be....might also be a 3C.

2. How many centers do you want?

3. That's what the coaching staff/scouts are paid to do...assess players.

4. Trading him doesn't mean they are giving up on him. Just shifting assets from one area to another.

5. So what else are they waiting for to become "cup contenders"? Maybe Kylington and Fat Rass to develop a bit more? If they aren't now they better be ready to make a run the following season. Cause if they still aren't past 2018-2019 then it'll be full blown blow it up mode.

Shink isn't useless ....he gives Canucks fans hope that Benning can win a trade ...which helps keep Benning in Vancouver ...
- Redmile247

Ha ha...I should have clarified...he's useless to the Flames!

Ha ha...I should have clarified...he's useless to the Flames!
- The-O-G

I kinda figured that's what you meant

Haha I am just busting everyone's chops.

Speaking of "dude you're better than this".....Shinkaruk? You kidding me? Vegas just took a UFA 35 year old D man over him in the expansion draft. He is literally useless.
- The-O-G

You miss the parts where I said "we'd have to add? and it's a long shot? And just because Vegas didn't see fit there, doesn't mean another GM wouldn't see value in said player.

1. Could be....might also be a 3C.

2. How many centers do you want?

3. That's what the coaching staff/scouts are paid to do...assess players.

4. Trading him doesn't mean they are giving up on him. Just shifting assets from one area to another.

5. So what else are they waiting for to become "cup contenders"? Maybe Kylington and Fat Rass to develop a bit more? If they aren't now they better be ready to make a run the following season. Cause if they still aren't past 2018-2019 then it'll be full blown blow it up mode.
- The-O-G

Centre depth is vital to winning. Penguins have it, Preds have it, Sharks had it last year. Trade Bennett, someone gets injured, then what?

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is giving up on him. Bennett has all the tools to be a superstar in the league. Hamonic is pretty good.

The Flames need a bunch of things to happen before they can be anything more than long shot contenders. They need their top line to mature and be able to be a threat on a nightly basis, they need their secondary scoring to score consistently, they need to stop taking dumb penalties and solid goaltending are the biggest issues. If they sort all those things out, they can contend without Hamonic. If it takes a couple more years, then they better be able to slot one of their prospects into a top 4 spot.

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is a desperate move you make when your window is closing. The Flames' window is barely even open yet.

You miss the parts where I said "we'd have to add? and it's a long shot? And just because Vegas didn't see fit there, doesn't mean another GM wouldn't see value in said player.
- TandA4Flames

That's like saying maybe they would want Hathaway ...as long as we add

Can't use scraps as the center piece of a deal

Centre depth is vital to winning. Penguins have it, Preds have it, Sharks had it last year. Trade Bennett, someone gets injured, then what?

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is giving up on him. Bennett has all the tools to be a superstar in the league. Hamonic is pretty good.

The Flames need a bunch of things to happen before they can be anything more than long shot contenders. They need their top line to mature and be able to be a threat on a nightly basis, they need their secondary scoring to score consistently, they need to stop taking dumb penalties and solid goaltending are the biggest issues. If they sort all those things out, they can contend without Hamonic. If it takes a couple more years, then they better be able to slot one of their prospects into a top 4 spot.

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is a desperate move you make when your window is closing. The Flames' window is barely even open yet.
- Hunkulese

I like this argument better than yours OG

Totally agree....maybe it's time to jump ship now?

It really all depends on how they feel about Janko. If he is ready, maybe this is the deal they do?
- The-O-G

When I think about it, Snow could have legit interest in Frolik (assuming BT told him to pound sand when he asked for Bennett or Tkachuk).

He drives possession, kills penalties and helps make whomever is on his line better.

Maybe we could get away with Frolik + (Kulak, prospect, pick) for Hamonic? I would probably be okay with doing something like that.

Centre depth is vital to winning. Penguins have it, Preds have it, Sharks had it last year. Trade Bennett, someone gets injured, then what?

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is giving up on him. Bennett has all the tools to be a superstar in the league. Hamonic is pretty good.

The Flames need a bunch of things to happen before they can be anything more than long shot contenders. They need their top line to mature and be able to be a threat on a nightly basis, they need their secondary scoring to score consistently, they need to stop taking dumb penalties and solid goaltending are the biggest issues. If they sort all those things out, they can contend without Hamonic. If it takes a couple more years, then they better be able to slot one of their prospects into a top 4 spot.

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is a desperate move you make when your window is closing. The Flames' window is barely even open yet.
- Hunkulese

So I guess where we disagree is on the whole Bennett could be a superstar thing. I have no doubt he will be a good player, but I really just don't see the superstar qualities in him.

If the team is high on Jankowski I could see them moving Bennett especially with Monahan and Backlund ahead in the depth charts. I don't see it as desperate at all. I see it as identifying an area of need and filling it. Hamonic is 26 and has some size and skill. He could be a staple in the top 4 for 10 years and is a huge upgrade over a guy like Stone.

Centre depth is vital to winning. Penguins have it, Preds have it, Sharks had it last year. Trade Bennett, someone gets injured, then what?

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is giving up on him. Bennett has all the tools to be a superstar in the league. Hamonic is pretty good.

The Flames need a bunch of things to happen before they can be anything more than long shot contenders. They need their top line to mature and be able to be a threat on a nightly basis, they need their secondary scoring to score consistently, they need to stop taking dumb penalties and solid goaltending are the biggest issues. If they sort all those things out, they can contend without Hamonic. If it takes a couple more years, then they better be able to slot one of their prospects into a top 4 spot.

Trading Bennett for Hamonic is a desperate move you make when your window is closing. The Flames' window is barely even open yet.
- Hunkulese

I agree with all of this.

I agree with all of this.
- TandA4Flames

Keep in mind they have Lazar and Janko in the weeds...not a strech to believe either (or both) will be capable 3C's which leave an open spot on the 4th line (maybe) in a year time. Can easily be filled via free agency. I don't see depth as a problem.

So I guess where we disagree is on the whole Bennett could be a superstar thing. I have no doubt he will be a good player, but I really just don't see the superstar qualities in him.

If the team is high on Jankowski I could see them moving Bennett especially with Monahan and Backlund ahead in the depth charts. I don't see it as desperate at all. I see it as identifying an area of need and filling it. Hamonic is 26 and has some size and skill. He could be a staple in the top 4 for 10 years and is a huge upgrade over a guy like Stone.
- The-O-G

I like the idea of having center depth ...move guys to the wings and if we have injuries you can replace your Centers with nhl guys instead of ahl

I think you trade for a guy like hamonic only when you've decided guys like ras and kylington won't be top 4 guys