its not a big deal
- Fountain-San

This is literally the dumbest take you could have on the situation
"Meh, we just gave up a 24 year old high upside guy that only costs $1m, and got absolutely nothing in return for him, but meh... no big deal."

This is literally the dumbest take you could have on the situation
"Meh, we just gave up a 24 year old high upside guy that only costs $1m, and got absolutely nothing in return for him, but meh... no big deal."
- mixturebill

"he is a luxury right now"

"he wasnt going to work out anyway"

"bruins didnt want to wait on his development"

There is always an excuse. But in the end, it is still just poopty asset management.

"he is a luxury right now"

"he wasnt going to work out anyway"

"bruins didnt want to wait on his development"

There is always an excuse. But in the end, it is still just poopty asset management.
- dothedougie

That's all. You were losing a player either way. Could've handled this better but also could've been worse. It's not like the Bruins let 30 goals walk out the door for nothing...again.

That's all. You were losing a player either way. Could've handled this better but also could've been worse. It's not like the Bruins let 30 goals walk out the door for nothing...again.
- glove_was_stuck

You want to say that you think it was the right move to protect Kevan over Colin... I will disagree with you on that, but can respect the opinion. To simply say "meh, no big deal" is just dumb.

If Vegas trades him for literally ANYTHING, then the B's could have done the same. I don't care if it was a 3rd round pick... if you're willing to just let him walk to another team, only to have that team trade him and acquire assets, it's just foolish. You just let another team use one of your players to profit when that profit could have been yours. And you could have profited doubly because if Colin is not there for them to select, then maybe you end up shedding the salary of a Beleskey.

That's all. You were losing a player either way. Could've handled this better but also could've been worse. It's not like the Bruins let 30 goals walk out the door for nothing...again.
- glove_was_stuck

Not yet....

You want to say that you think it was the right move to protect Kevan over Colin... I will disagree with you on that, but can respect the opinion. To simply say "meh, no big deal" is just dumb.

If Vegas trades him for literally ANYTHING, then the B's could have done the same. I don't care if it was a 3rd round pick... if you're willing to just let him walk to another team, only to have that team trade him and acquire assets, it's just foolish. You just let another team use one of your players to profit when that profit could have been yours. And you could have profited doubly because if Colin is not there for them to select, then maybe you end up shedding the salary of a Beleskey.
- mixturebill

i can say the same thing about most of your takes bud.

it's not dumb at all. i think you overvalue him. just like you do spooner. just cuz a guy is young and has a certain skillset does not make him a good player. would they rather of kept him? probably. but they have a ton of right shot D. they could afford to lose him.

What was up with the overly emphatic french pronunciation of his name last night? Pierre McGuire sounded like he was choking when he said his name.
- highstick87

It's either a parasite, a tumor, or he was dropped on his head as child.

You want to say that you think it was the right move to protect Kevan over Colin... I will disagree with you on that, but can respect the opinion. To simply say "meh, no big deal" is just dumb.

If Vegas trades him for literally ANYTHING, then the B's could have done the same. I don't care if it was a 3rd round pick... if you're willing to just let him walk to another team, only to have that team trade him and acquire assets, it's just foolish. You just let another team use one of your players to profit when that profit could have been yours. And you could have profited doubly because if Colin is not there for them to select, then maybe you end up shedding the salary of a Beleskey.
- mixturebill

yeah i'm sure it was between beleskey and c miller

I've got to agree that it's not losing someone for nothing. It was to the expansion draft. It's not like a free agent signed elsewhere. Someone had to get taken. They would have taken Subban probably if not.

I've got to agree that it's not losing someone for nothing. It was to the expansion draft. It's not like a free agent signed elsewhere. Someone had to get taken. They would have taken Subban probably if not.
- Videoj

You're right. Jeremy Jacobs and company got a little over 16 million dollars of the expansion fee for Colin Miller. As for the team, well they likely wont see a dime of that, nor will the system see any new talent added to the pool. I get it, we have a surplus of D in our depth chart, but there should be at least an effort to trade valuable assets for a return when you know you are likely to lose them. Colin miller has value, more so than anyone else that was available to be selected. At least TRY to get something for him.

EDIT: what is especially frustrating is that Sweeney chose to protect spooner because he thinks he can get assets for him, and his future in Boston has been in doubt. You will likely see a larger return for Colin miller than you will for Ryan spooner. Now when that happens, it becomes even more infuriating. If you cant protect colin, you trade him. Common goddamn sense.

You want to say that you think it was the right move to protect Kevan over Colin... I will disagree with you on that, but can respect the opinion. To simply say "meh, no big deal" is just dumb.

If Vegas trades him for literally ANYTHING, then the B's could have done the same. I don't care if it was a 3rd round pick... if you're willing to just let him walk to another team, only to have that team trade him and acquire assets, it's just foolish. You just let another team use one of your players to profit when that profit could have been yours. And you could have profited doubly because if Colin is not there for them to select, then maybe you end up shedding the salary of a Beleskey.
- mixturebill

Huh? Not even what I said.

I would have protected C. Miller over K. Miller and Schaller over Spooner. C. Miller wasn't going to make this team as a regular player. Not over Carlo, McAvoy or even K.Miller.

C.Miller is good trade bait though. You could've had a return but instead you chose to protect a player who wouldn't have been picked anyway. Now you have nothing to show for it...again.

Huh? Not even what I said.

I would have protected C. Miller over K. Miller and Schaller over Spooner. C. Miller wasn't going to make this team as a regular player. Not over Carlo, McAvoy or even K.Miller.

C.Miller is good trade bait though. You could've had a return but instead you chose to protect a player who wouldn't have been picked anyway. Now you have nothing to show for it...again.
- glove_was_stuck

THIS

i can say the same thing about most of your takes bud.

it's not dumb at all. i think you overvalue him. just like you do spooner. just cuz a guy is young and has a certain skillset does not make him a good player. would they rather of kept him? probably. but they have a ton of right shot D. they could afford to lose him.
- Fountain-San

Look around the league. There are bad defenceman everywhere like Kyle Quincey, Dennis Wideman and Jake Muzzin to name a few. These guys suck and get regular ice time. So what does that say about C. Miller and his inability to stick on the roster? Claude was fired still couldn't make it. Same for Spooner.

I'm arguing in a trade C. Miller had value as defense is so overhauled anyways in this league. A lot more value in a trade than Spooner who (frank)ing sucks.

I've got to agree that it's not losing someone for nothing. It was to the expansion draft. It's not like a free agent signed elsewhere. Someone had to get taken. They would have taken Subban probably if not.
- Videoj

thank you.

Huh? Not even what I said.

I would have protected C. Miller over K. Miller and Schaller over Spooner. C. Miller wasn't going to make this team as a regular player. Not over Carlo, McAvoy or even K.Miller.

C.Miller is good trade bait though. You could've had a return but instead you chose to protect a player who wouldn't have been picked anyway. Now you have nothing to show for it...again.
- glove_was_stuck

Haha, yeah maybe I worded that a little funky... I wasn't inferring you were arguing that. I was just speaking in the general terms of "if someone wants to make this argument" kind of thing. I think our views align. I don't think it's the end of the world losing Colin Miller. I just think it's a stupid move considering the pieces the Bruins have, and the likelihood that they could have gotten something for him in return by way of trade if they were prepared to just let him walk for nothing.

yeah i'm sure it was between beleskey and c miller
- Fountain-San

Not saying it was between the two, but if an obvious choice like Miller is not there, then maybe you can work out a deal with Vegas to shed some salary. Manage your assets a little bit more, rather than sticking your hands in your pockets and shrugging your shoulders. "Meh, no big deal. We we're going to lose someone anyways!"

THIS
- dothedougie

Harvard education at work.

Look around the league. There are bad defenceman everywhere like Kyle Quincey, Dennis Wideman and Jake Muzzin to name a few. These guys suck and get regular ice time. So what does that say about C. Miller and his inability to stick on the roster? Claude was fired still couldn't make it. Same for Spooner.

I'm arguing in a trade C. Miller had value as defense is so overhauled anyways in this league. A lot more value in a trade than Spooner who (frank)ing sucks.
- glove_was_stuck

yeah we'll see.

but you, not you specifically but others, can't on one hand say it's no big deal giving up a third for rinaldo cuz we had picks to give to then lament not getting a 5th round pick for miller.

he's young with upside. great. the fact that he's getting picked and then spun out right away maybe tells you that NHL folks don't think he's really that good. cuz he looks lost sometimes without the puck.

Not saying it was between the two, but if an obvious choice like Miller is not there, then maybe you can work out a deal with Vegas to shed some salary. Manage your assets a little bit more, rather than sticking your hands in your pockets and shrugging your shoulders. "Meh, no big deal. We we're going to lose someone anyways!"
- mixturebill

i'm glad we still have McQuaid and Kevan Miller. NHL ready tough as nails gamers. C miller will never be that. book it.

just like spooner never will be.

yeah we'll see.

but you, not you specifically but others, can't on one hand say it's no big deal giving up a third for rinaldo cuz we had picks to give to then lament not getting a 5th round pick for miller.

he's young with upside. great. the fact that he's getting picked and then spun out right away maybe tells you that NHL folks don't think he's really that good. cuz he looks lost sometimes without the puck.
- Fountain-San

Huh?

Huh?
- glove_was_stuck

some were on here defending that.

rinaldo was a good gamble for a 4th line energy guy and a third round pick wasn't much to give for said gamble.

some were on here defending that.

rinaldo was a good gamble for a 4th line energy guy and a third round pick wasn't much to give for said gamble.
- Fountain-San

OK. I was against that move especially after letting Thornton and Campbell go to get "Younger and more skilled"

Edit: The point is, one the more glaring problems with this organization has not changed under 3 regimes now. Piss poor asset management. Letting guys with value walk for nothing and making abysmal trades.

some were on here defending that.

rinaldo was a good gamble for a 4th line energy guy and a third round pick wasn't much to give for said gamble.
- Fountain-San

This was never a good gamble, even for futures.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/06/21/colin-miller-gamble-but-not-huge-loss-for-bruins/EkEkxvTnbkZAxSBDxsFOnL/story.html
- Fountain-San

i will not pay to read a stupid boston globe article... can you give me the cliff notes?

i can say the same thing about most of your takes bud.

it's not dumb at all. i think you overvalue him. just like you do spooner. just cuz a guy is young and has a certain skillset does not make him a good player. would they rather of kept him? probably. but they have a ton of right shot D. they could afford to lose him.
- Fountain-San

was surprised they didnt expose spooner, I thought they exposed the wrong D man too, but what ever, if they do bring in another legit d-man, they're might not be room for either of them anyway, until McQuids on IR anyway.