would you flip lehner for a 2nd then flip all three second rounders for 16th overall?
- Sabresfan-365

Who am I drafting?

Lol.. I looked at the list backward... I saw names and thought it was who we left unprotected my bad.


Moving on.
- JVince11

No worries
I thought maybe I missed something where Larsson & Foligno's names has been put out there by someone

would you flip lehner for a 2nd then flip all three second rounders for 16th overall?
- Sabresfan-365

Nope.... Without Lehner.... and starting Nilsson or Ullmark... we have hte worst goalie in the NHL and are dead last.

ehhh.... I didn't realize that... short term rental unless we win.

Leave it to NYI to deal a 1st round pick tho. Man alive.
- JVince11

They had to to protect their forwards

I actually hate the deal for Vegas
I'd rather have Brock Nelson than the 15th pick & have to pay Grabovsky

No worries
I thought maybe I missed something where Larsson & Foligno's names has been put out there by someone
- jdfitz77

I actually have heard that they are not keen on Foligno. His bridge deal is already over 3M which is already overpaying for what he does.


I have never thought he wasn't replacable by an ELC type guy. Especially Fashing.

Berube is UFA
All they had to do to lose him was not resign him
- jdfitz77

Maybe Vegas is throwing them a low round pick back and Snow told them if they took Grabovsky too they would take a 7th instead of a 5th? We won't know for sure until they announce it officially.

Who am I drafting?
- buffalofan19

im going off TSN's latest so we'll say one of Valimaki, Liljegren, vesalainen, tolvanen or kostin.

Nope.... Without Lehner.... and starting Nilsson or Ullmark... we have hte worst goalie in the NHL and are dead last.
- JVince11

who said anything about starting nilsson or ullmark? can always add in FA

would you flip lehner for a 2nd then flip all three second rounders for 16th overall?
- Sabresfan-365

I'd pass

Nope.... Without Lehner.... and starting Nilsson or Ullmark... we have hte worst goalie in the NHL and are dead last.
- JVince11

From what I saw Lehner is not that much of an upgrade over Nilsson or Ullmark. Our success, or lack thereof, this season will depend on our skaters much more than our goalies.

They had to to protect their forwards

I actually hate the deal for Vegas
I'd rather have Brock Nelson than the 15th pick & have to pay Grabovsky
- jdfitz77

Grabs is a UFA after this season and its one year at 5M. Gotta reach the floor.

Brock is a 2.5M RFA after this year. 3x 20 goal scoring center.

I would agree with you.

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Foleys said VGK have taken a few UFAs, in theory to walk away from them.

What the.... so basically they had to have made a deal with the team to get said asset if they just take a UFA and then never sign him. So original team A could then resign their own player.

That's.... that's something right there.

I really feel like VGK is going to be some extremely top heavy team with some WHO IN THE F*CK IS THAT GUY in their bottom 6 and bottom pairing because they dealt for hte future so much. Like Adam Pardy playing bottom pairing minutes.
- JVince11

Supposedly taking UFA Englund from Calgary
Assuming that means Calgary is giving them a pick
Vegas probably liked that pick more than whoever they could take from Calgary, presumably Shinkaruk, Poirier or Stajan

I'd pass
- mattmoulson

Thats fair, i figure ill get a pretty 50/50 response on it

They had to to protect their forwards

I actually hate the deal for Vegas
I'd rather have Brock Nelson than the 15th pick & have to pay Grabovsky
- jdfitz77

100% agree

who said anything about starting nilsson or ullmark? can always add in FA
- Sabresfan-365

Who are you taking that'll help?

Miller, Pavelec, Bernier, Mason, Elliot, Ocho Cinco, Kumper, O'Connor, Gustavsson, Jhonas, Leighton...


Its sad sad sad waters out there.

From what I saw Lehner is not that much of an upgrade over Nilsson or Ullmark. Our success, or lack thereof, this season will depend on our skaters much more than our goalies.
- Losman

I'm in the camp that Lehner would be better with a better defense... He also has a higher ceiling than Nilsson or Ullmark could provide currently.

Supposedly taking UFA Englund from Calgary
Assuming that means Calgary is giving them a pick
Vegas probably liked that pick more than whoever they could take from Calgary, presumably Shinkaruk, Poirier or Stajan
- jdfitz77

I would have taken Shinkaruk unless they are getting a 1st.

Grabs is a UFA after this season and its one year at 5M. Gotta reach the floor.

Brock is a 2.5M RFA after this year. 3x 20 goal scoring center.

I would agree with you.
- JVince11

If they need to get to the floor,
they can always sign UFAs to get their
Even if they're just overpaying guys to play in the AHL
Can't bury contracts anymore...
if it's a 1way deal, anything over (roughly) 900k counts against the cap

Who are you taking that'll help?

Miller, Pavelec, Bernier, Mason, Elliot, Ocho Cinco, Kumper, O'Connor, Gustavsson, Jhonas, Leighton...


Its sad sad sad waters out there.
- JVince11

The gap between some of these guys and lehner isnt as big as you think

I'm in the camp that Lehner would be better with a better defense... He also has a higher ceiling than Nilsson or Ullmark could provide currently.
- JVince11

He was pretty damn good facing 30+ shots a game. I'd like to see him when our defense isn't allowing him to get peppered every game.

Thats fair, i figure ill get a pretty 50/50 response on it
- Sabresfan-365

I think I'd just rather have Lehner and 2 second rounders, than need to replace Lehner and only having the 16th

Nope.... Without Lehner.... and starting Nilsson or Ullmark... we have hte worst goalie in the NHL and are dead last.
- JVince11

.923 Sv%, better High danger Sv% than Lehner.

I don't see the big drop off

I would have taken Shinkaruk unless they are getting a 1st.
- Pierceme69

That's who I'd have taken too
BUT...
pretty sure he'd have to clear waivers
So if they didn't see him making the NHL roster,
better to have the pick than lose him for nothing

I'm in the camp that Lehner would be better with a better defense... He also has a higher ceiling than Nilsson or Ullmark could provide currently.
- JVince11

better is misleading. because better means more aggressive, means more open means less likely to collapse in their own end. hed face tougher shots

.923 Sv%, better High danger Sv% than Lehner.

I don't see the big drop off
- sbroads24

would you do those two deals?