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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:46 AM ET
Proper identification of the composition/division fallacy. Handled well, well played.

https://yourlogicalfallac....com/composition-division

- Aristotle



The composition-divison fallacy can also be called "having no clue what the Square of Opposition is" (I had to take a logic course in both high school and college).
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:48 AM ET
The composition-divison fallacy can also be called "having no clue what the Square of Opposition is" (I had to take a logic course in both high school and college).
- buffalofan19

Then you should have no excuse.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:48 AM ET
Considering Regeir was the reason we had multiple 1st and 2nd round picks, I'd say the credit goes to the man in charge
- sbroads24


Those picks don't mean crap if you don't choose the right guys...

And the only reason they had so many was because they started to just unload just about any player that was worth a damn. Not exactly difficult to do. it's not like he managed to pick up all those extra picks and field a playoff caliber team.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:49 AM ET
Then you should have no excuse.
- Hatboro_Swords



I never claimed to pay attention in them...
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:51 AM ET
I never claimed to pay attention in them...
- buffalofan19

Advantage buffalofan19
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:53 AM ET
Bots did a nice job last night. Paid pennies to keep a more important player. It's too bad we couldn't get rid of Ennis (only realistic high paid player) but it's clear that:

A) McPhee wanted Ullmark
B) Ennis (or other player besides Carrier) wasn't going to stop McPhee from picking Ullmark
C) The price to take those big contracts was unreasonable to Bots

The right decision was made in my mind. However, I'm curious as to the cost of unloading our major 3 undesired contracts. My guess is Moulson was a 1st, Bogo, Ennis a 2nd.

- TheSabresTaco

wanted him so bad that he only wanted a 6th rd pick back not to take him. Tells me he really didn't want him at all.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:55 AM ET
wanted him so bad that he only wanted a 6th rd pick back not to take him. Tells me he really didn't want him at all.
- rinaldo

Seriously.

The Sabres options were so bad. It's like we were the expansion team
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:57 AM ET
wanted him so bad that he only wanted a 6th rd pick back not to take him. Tells me he really didn't want him at all.
- rinaldo

False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:59 AM ET
wanted him so bad that he only wanted a 6th rd pick back not to take him. Tells me he really didn't want him at all.
- rinaldo


Thanks for stopping by, but it was exposing a player he wanted. And a 6th. Personally, I don't think Carrier is exposed if he didn't want Ullmark.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:59 AM ET
Seriously.

The Sabres options were so bad. It's like we were the expansion team

- sbroads24


I don't know. If I'm a GM putting a new team together and I have my pick of Pickard or Ullmark, I'm taking Ullmark. He's younger, he's bigger, and put up better numbers with a team that was just as bad as the one Pickard was on.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:00 AM ET
Considering Regeir was the reason we had multiple 1st and 2nd round picks, I'd say the credit goes to the man in charge
- sbroads24

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:00 AM ET
False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)

- yen6d1


David Clarkson kind of contradicts what you're saying here....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:00 AM ET
False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)

- yen6d1


And Grabo and Clarkson ran their former teams a 1st. Yeesh
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:03 AM ET
Thanks for stopping by, but it was exposing a player he wanted. And a 6th. Personally, I don't think Carrier is exposed if he didn't want Ullmark.
- TheSabresTaco

I will be here all day.

so we agree he didn't want the goalie.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:04 AM ET
And Grabo and Clarkson ran their former teams a 1st. Yeesh
- TheSabresTaco

Clarkson is LTIR i believe. But yes they wanted nothing to do with bogo, brown, gaborik etc..

Heard Pham say yesterday that if bogo doesnt play how he thinks he should be used you lose him... hopefully this should humble him that not even a start up team wants his 3rd overall talents..
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:04 AM ET
False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)

- yen6d1

Correct he wanted carrier not the goalie. got a 6th out of it for doing nothing.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jun 22 @ 9:05 AM ET
False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)

- yen6d1


Grabovski and Clarkson say hi
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:05 AM ET
We can trade for top 4 guys all day. It wouldn't hurt to get one more. But really, where's our top 2 guy. I'd rather get that guy than draft at 8.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
Correct he wanted carrier not the goalie. got a 6th out of it for doing nothing.
- rinaldo


Your opinion. Some of us have the opposite. Agree to disagree.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
Correct he wanted carrier not the goalie. got a 6th out of it for doing nothing.
- rinaldo


yeah cause that makes sense.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:07 AM ET
False he wanted carrier and a 6th for him...
Basically if we exposed ennis we wouldve had to give a much higher pick to save ullmark.

And while i dont agree with all the LV moves i do think they avoided bad contacts at all costs (as they should)

- yen6d1


You realize 75% of the roster is contracts other teams wanted to unload....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:07 AM ET
Your opinion. Some of us have the opposite. Agree to disagree.
- HonkFortheGoose


He lives in Garf's blog to troll. Not well mind you.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:08 AM ET
Grabovski and Clarkson say hi
- Matthews_Auston


They avoided our bad contracts but took a few on for good picks and players. I'm sure we did not offer up enough for them to take on Moulsons contract and they clearly set at defense so Bogos was not needed.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:08 AM ET
blah blah blah
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:09 AM ET
Grabovski and Clarkson say hi
- Matthews_Auston

And gave up 1st's, point is more to the sabres lol it was ullmark, then carrier, then you'd have to offer a lot to take any of our trash
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