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doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
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Jun 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
this team might actually be worse than the Avs
- DDM-Coga


Impossible, this isn't the 2014 Sabres we are talking about.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
The fact that VGK took Berube makes me think Ullmark is safe.

They would really only need one young goalie to develop.

They already took Fleury and Grubeur as well

That's 3 goalies already.

- JVince11

Berube is a UFA. They may not even keep him.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
The fact that VGK took Berube makes me think Ullmark is safe.

They would really only need one young goalie to develop.

They already took Fleury and Grubeur as well

That's 3 goalies already.

- JVince11



First thing I thought too
Also to consider...
they're splitting their AHL team
so they probably only need 1 goalie for down there
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Berube is a UFA. They may not even keep him.
- Pierceme69



Why would he be included in the deal then?
They could've just taken Grabovsky & gotten the 1st in addition
JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:15 PM ET
Seems that VGK has taken at least 2 maybe 3 RFAs as well. Risk there.

Maybe Foligno or Larsson. Quality 3rd line guys?
JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
Why would he be included in the deal then?
They could've just taken Grabovsky & gotten the 1st in addition

- jdfitz77


THere has to be a reason....

The rumor is that they could take extra D Men especially and just look to trade them. Said to be the idea with Methot and maybe James Neal as well.

I tell you what... I'd trade a pretty penny to add Neal to this top 6 if we do indeed deal Kane. Neal might be getting old but damn it.. he can put the biscuit away when fed by a guy like Eichel.
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
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No reason to ever doubt @TSNBobMcKenzie. So the deal is #Isles 1st, 15th overall and Grabovski to have Vegas select JF Berube.

HOLY SCHNIKES.... that turned out a lot bigger than I thought. THey REALLLLY wanted them to leave their forwards alone huh.

- JVince11



Grabovsky is our Moulson
So basically a 1st to take that contract, plus not take Bailey, Nelson, Strome, deHann, etc etc
Pierceme69
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Jun 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
Why would he be included in the deal then?
They could've just taken Grabovsky & gotten the 1st in addition

- jdfitz77

It seems to me the Isles wanted to lose both of those players so perhaps as a condition for the #15 pick Vegas was willing to do that.
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
THere has to be a reason....

The rumor is that they could take extra D Men especially and just look to trade them. Said to be the idea with Methot and maybe James Neal as well.

I tell you what... I'd trade a pretty penny to add Neal to this top 6 if we do indeed deal Kane. Neal might be getting old but damn it.. he can put the biscuit away when fed by a guy like Eichel.

- JVince11



Only 1 year left on his deal
I'd do something like Carrier + 2nd

jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
It seems to me the Isles wanted to lose both of those players so perhaps as a condition for the #15 pick Vegas was willing to do that.
- Pierceme69



Berube is UFA
All they had to do to lose him was not resign him
Sabresfan-365
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Jun 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
Grabovsky is our Moulson
So basically a 1st to take that contract, plus not take Bailey, Nelson, Strome, deHann, etc etc

- jdfitz77



grabovski only has 1 year left and scored more too.

Edit: meant better PPG
mattmoulson
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Jun 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
I didn't say Raanta.... I said Fleury, Grubauer, and Berube.
- JVince11


JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Only 1 year left on his deal
I'd do something like Carrier + 2nd

- jdfitz77


ehhh.... I didn't realize that... short term rental unless we win.

Leave it to NYI to deal a 1st round pick tho. Man alive.
Mentalorgasm5
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Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Grabovsky is our Moulson
So basically a 1st to take that contract, plus not take Bailey, Nelson, Strome, deHann, etc etc

- jdfitz77

Grabovski is on LTIR though.
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
Seems that VGK has taken at least 2 maybe 3 RFAs as well. Risk there.

Maybe Foligno or Larsson. Quality 3rd line guys?

- JVince11




Why is taking a RFA a risk?
They can easily match offer sheets

How are u seeing Foligno or Larsson fit in?
We protected them
Sabresfan-365
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Jun 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/...-at-nhl-draft/c-290008990


trade up
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
grabovski only has 1 year left and scored more too.

Edit: meant better PPG

- Sabresfan-365




He's still basically Moulson
It's a player/contract they'd like gone
JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
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Foleys said VGK have taken a few UFAs, in theory to walk away from them.

What the.... so basically they had to have made a deal with the team to get said asset if they just take a UFA and then never sign him. So original team A could then resign their own player.

That's.... that's something right there.

I really feel like VGK is going to be some extremely top heavy team with some WHO IN THE F*CK IS THAT GUY in their bottom 6 and bottom pairing because they dealt for hte future so much. Like Adam Pardy playing bottom pairing minutes.
Sabresfan-365
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Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
He's still basically Moulson
It's a player/contract they'd like gone

- jdfitz77


right but further illustrates how much wed have to give up to get rid of him. they gave up 15th pick (granted they had a lot more to lose in expansion than we did)
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
Grabovski is on LTIR though.
- Mentalorgasm5



What's that matter?
NyI would still have to pay him,
so it helps them for Vegas to take the contract off their hands
JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
Why is taking a RFA a risk?
They can easily match offer sheets

How are u seeing Foligno or Larsson fit in?
We protected them

- jdfitz77


Lol.. I looked at the list backward... I saw names and thought it was who we left unprotected my bad.


Moving on.
jdfitz77
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Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
right but further illustrates how much wed have to give up to get rid of him. they gave up 15th pick (granted they had a lot more to lose in expansion than we did)
- Sabresfan-365



I don't think u can compare what we'd have to give up based on the NyI deal bc (like u said) that 1st is more about protecting Bailey/Nelson/deHann
JVince11
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Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
Calgary Dereck Engelland is one of the UFA picks by Vegas.
Sabresfan-365
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Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
would you flip lehner for a 2nd then flip all three second rounders for 16th overall?
Mentalorgasm5
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Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
What's that matter?
NyI would still have to pay him,
so it helps them for Vegas to take the contract off their hands

- jdfitz77

No cap hit though. Moulson would count against the cap for the next two years.
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