When Toews knows he is losing another winger

Sorry I didn't realize I needed to spell things out clearer. My point and my opinion: Hossa will retire (for money reasons), he will likely play in Russia for much more than the $1 million that he will make from from the Hawks under LTIR. But that's just my opinion, even if it's not shared by the blog author or others here.
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- NJPensfan

jfc cliff notes please

Your post came off as if you felt Hossa was going to go chasing money. The blog hints that isn't the case. If he retires so he can go make more in Russia, it (frank)s the Blackhawks cap. I don't see that happening at all. As it was mentioned earlier, this is a contract that gets bought out during compliance buyouts if there isn't some understanding of what sacrifices need to be made in the later years of the deal

POWERENFORCER .... please report to your post.
- kwolf68

Yeah...I'm a little unstable today. After hearing the news, I probably should have had a cup of decaf.

it was no charity game. It was a war. Bieber don't play no charity
- PatShart

Sorry I didn't realize I needed to spell things out clearer. My point and my opinion: Hossa will retire (for money reasons), he will likely play in Russia for much more than the $1 million that he will make from from the Hawks under LTIR. But that's just my opinion, even if it's not shared by the blog author or others here.

BTW: I've never heard of an allergy medication that is life threatening unless we're talking about a Biologic that although can increase risk of other infections, isn't considered a medication that's dangerous or have long term high risks either. Typically Biologics are used for auto-immune disorders, not skin allergies. And I've never heard of something so unheard of medically on the allergy issue (that seemingly everyone has anymore), that it cant be discussed. Is he on Chemo pills for a skin allergy for Pete's sake? Doubt it.

I lived with and known people for years who've dealt with serious allergy issues of all sorts (internal and external) and never was the medication they were forced to take ever considered life threatening or dangerous to take long term. Even if this is textile contact dermatitis caused by the synthetic materials of hockey equipment, there is plenty of medication for it that isn't life threatening or high risk and I'm pretty sure that if it was a known serious issue with him, the league could allow him special equipment made of material that didn't effect him.

There's too much "according to sources", "declined to comment", "couldn't be reached for comment" and "not disclosing" going on here at a time when his contract means little to him now, the Hawks roster cap issues coinciding with the expansion draft and current FA signings for me to buy this is just an unfortunate thing popping up now even if he does have an allergy.

Allergies being some kind of reason or not aside, in MY OPINION, this is more about Hossa not wanting to play 4 more years for only $4 million dollars, more than the Hawks wanting to get rid of most of his salary somehow with a LTIR designation. He scored 26 goals last season. I can think of other players more deserving of showing the door regardless of their age and cap hit on that team than Hossa.
- NJPensfan

Well said. However, Hossa's body is 100% different in one way or another than every other person on the planet. What he takes or has been taking for this allergy may not effect 90% of the population the way it is effecting him. In the end, regardlesd of the medication or who is taking it, the side effects can fall anywhere between runny nose and death.

That Charity game was a big deal man. Lets not downplay how messed up it is that pronger helped a charity out by playing, It was so wrong of him to do that!!!
- headyhedman77

Can we drink your tears from the 3 Cups he won?

Maybe Toews has a rash too....which explains his play the last several years

Vegas trades are going to start leaking out around 10am est when Vegas files them with the central registry
- Stan_Bowman

Yeah I was thinking about this from a logistics standpoint of the way they were going to try and get people to watch the awards show so that any interested, could every few minutes see the trickle down of player selections and thought, what if they select say Andrew Copp from Winnipeg and trade him to Detroit?

Do they still announce they selected him, and give all the entire details of the transaction that quickly sent him away, or simply announce all those selected, whether they stay or go, or just omit the newly traded?

I mean, the idea is to hype the new team, not confuse the public with players names being announced that are already sent away...


I guess I got my answer below:

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Whatever players VGK are flipping in a 3-way, those trades won't be announced until Thursday. Those players first have to be part of reveal
- mrpaulish

So...if you are a new VGk ticket holder don't get too excited at the first look...

When Toews knows he is losing another winger

- 93Joe

That's the same way I feel when Toews "loses an edge" and falls with no one around him


And then goes to the bench and eats cabbage

Maybe Toews has a rash too....which explains his play the last several years
- PatShart

Maybe he's allergic to poor wingers and that is the real problem...

Maybe Toews has a rash too....which explains his play the last several years
- PatShart

Does Hossa have Vopat's Rash?

>Marian Hossa = hockey player
>JJ, will the Hawks go UFA shopping now?
>Thorton, Marleau, Williams, Sharp -- all available

Can we drink your tears from the 3 Cups he won?
- Hossa1881

Considering I was being facetious about Chris Pronger being ridiculed for playing in a charity game, im not sure what your comment is pertaining too...

>Marian Hossa = hockey player
>JJ, will the Hawks go UFA shopping now?
>Thorton, Marleau, Williams, Sharp -- all available
- SnapitUpstairs

Wow, anyone else on the senior tour you want to mention? Geriatric city on that list of names.

Just heard that the Hawks are considering signing Marcel Hossa. Q is hoping he can flip to the right side.

Maybe he's allergic to poor wingers and that is the real problem...
- wiz1901

His 10.5mil chased away his wingers. I wish he was allergic to that Onnit Crap

His 10.5mil chased away his wingers. I wish he was allergic to that Onnit Crap
- PatShart

I don't agree with your Tows bashing, but the bolded is something I am not able to argue about.

Stay salty pal. Not sure how Pronger was traded as a way to circumvent the cap considering he was on LTIR with the Flyers for some time before a trade was made. It helped Arizona as much as it helped the Flyers. I would bet the Blackhawks will trade an LTIR Hossa at some point too

I don't have a single problem with what they did (expected to do). It was obvious it was happening years ago. I think you confused me with several other people talking about "bullpoop" and "illegal"

It is also a (frank)ing charity game
- YuenglingJagr

What's good for one team is good for another. Only the NHL likes to punish teams for success. It can't just be OK to help teams to get to the floor by trading a dormant salary. That is the real circumvention of the cap.

Sorry I didn't realize I needed to spell things out clearer. My point and my opinion: Hossa will retire (for money reasons), he will likely play in Russia for much more than the $1 million that he will make from from the Hawks under LTIR. But that's just my opinion, even if it's not shared by the blog author or others here.

BTW: I've never heard of an allergy medication that is life threatening unless we're talking about a Biologic that although can increase risk of other infections, isn't considered a medication that's dangerous or have long term high risks either. Typically Biologics are used for auto-immune disorders, not skin allergies. And I've never heard of something so unheard of medically on the allergy issue (that seemingly everyone has anymore), that it cant be discussed. Is he on Chemo pills for a skin allergy for Pete's sake? Doubt it.

I lived with and known people for years who've dealt with serious allergy issues of all sorts (internal and external) and never was the medication they were forced to take ever considered life threatening or dangerous to take long term. Even if this is textile contact dermatitis caused by the synthetic materials of hockey equipment, there is plenty of medication for it that isn't life threatening or high risk and I'm pretty sure that if it was a known serious issue with him, the league could allow him special equipment made of material that didn't effect him.

There's too much "according to sources", "declined to comment", "couldn't be reached for comment" and "not disclosing" going on here at a time when his contract means little to him now, the Hawks roster cap issues coinciding with the expansion draft and current FA signings for me to buy this is just an unfortunate thing popping up now even if he does have an allergy.

Allergies being some kind of reason or not aside, in MY OPINION, this is more about Hossa not wanting to play 4 more years for only $4 million dollars, more than the Hawks wanting to get rid of most of his salary somehow with a LTIR designation. He scored 26 goals last season. I can think of other players more deserving of showing the door regardless of their age and cap hit on that team than Hossa.
- NJPensfan

Opinions are like arseholes - we all have them.. The great thing is some are correct & others are just so off it's often laughable. Good job on being the latter!

Maybe we get our back up goalie this weekend too?
Will miss watching Hoss ,
Great job JJ !!! Really enjoy your articles
- CTblackhawkfan

Thx CT

What's good for one team is good for another. Only the NHL likes to punish teams for success. It can't just be OK to help teams to get to the floor by trading a dormant salary. That is the real circumvention of the cap.
- KMFDMLight

anything to help arizona, right?

>Marian Hossa = hockey player
>JJ, will the Hawks go UFA shopping now?
>Thorton, Marleau, Williams, Sharp -- all available
- SnapitUpstairs

My guess at the strategy:

1-2 value for value trades, followed by backfilling with bargain basement UFA or 2. But we'll see.

I don't see them going for any big $$ UFAs unless they can't do a trade or two.

“everybody’s favorite teammate, two-way player, unselfish, protects the puck like it’s his first born.” Bob Verdi on Hossa.

Kinda like Kris Letang and his mysterious "stroke" giving you cap space. Or his - ahem - "neck surgery" which once again gave you 7+ MIL in cap space? He had no problem being on the ice and lifting the cup, did he?
- PatShart

Lifting the cup and being able to play are two different things. Would have rather seen Letang in the line-up than the cap space (plus assets traded away) used for Hainsey/Streit.

It's a shame concerning Hossa as he was still playing at a high level.

With the unfortunate Hossa news, the Hawks need to make this summer all about retooling, getting younger/faster, and managing the cap hits.

I'd trade (on top of the rumors that Kruger & TVR are gone already) Hammer, Anisimov, Panarin, and maybe even Seabrook.

The whole objective would be to get younger/faster players with cost-controlled cap hits and maintain cap flexibility for the coming years.

Hammer - Trade for a young winger. Can't have him, Keith, and Seabs on long-term deals in their mid-30s for big $$$
Panarin - Trade for a young defensemen (potential Hammer replacement), young goalie (potential CC replacement in 2 years), prospects/picks
Anisimov - Trade for bottom 6 reinforcements, prospects/picks
Seabrook - Trade for a Seabrook-lite replacement like Tanev (if he would even waive)

The Hawks would most likely not be as good as they were in previous years, but still a playoff team IMO. I think this would allow them to load up and make another 5-6 year run while Toews and Kane are still in their prime while getting younger and gain cap flexibility.

It would be a ballsy move and maybe tough to do, but that is the direction I'd go.