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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
lol yep...2nd highest cap# (currently)
- YuenglingJagr


But interestingly, they only selected about $51m worth of contracts in the actual ED. The minimum was $43.8m.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 22 @ 9:27 AM ET
I know Simmonds has the high value now but if you're moving him I really think you just need to tear the entire old core down with G and Jake as well. I mean those guys are going to be 33 by the time the picks you get for Simmonds are hopefully contributing in a meaningful way.
- hereticpride



I could get behind moving Giroux but only if I am getting Patrick at 2. I think he is best bet to be that future top line center.

I could see scenarios with Montreal and Ottawa where they could use Giroux.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
But interestingly, they only selected about $51m worth of contracts in the actual ED. The minimum was $43.8m.
- Feanor

They did everything they could to leverage for more assets. It was pretty unprecedented.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:35 AM ET
so Vegas only took 3 goalies and 12 dmen, 6 in which are UFAs after the season and only one that is on a ELC. Obviously they are going to move half of them. Just have to wonder what kind of value they will have knowing they will need to move them or waive them before the season starts.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
14 F, 7 D, and over $5m in space to sign a 2nd goalie.

Giroux ~ 8.275
Voracek ~ 8.25
Schenn ~ 5.125
Ghost ~ 5
MacDonald ~ 5
Filppula ~ 5
Couturier ~ 4.33
Simmonds ~ 3.975
Read ~ 3.625
Gudas ~ 3.35
Neuvirth ~ 2.5
Raffl ~ 2.35
Weise ~ 2.35
Umberger BUYOUT ~ 1.5
Weal ~ 1.45
Manning ~ 0.975
Lindblom ~ 0.925
Nico/Nolan ~ 0.925
Konecny ~ 0.894
Provorov ~ 0.894
Sanheim ~ 0.863
Morin ~ 0.863
Laughton ~ 0.85
TOTAL ~ 69.269
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Kathryn Tappen
- Scoob


So god damn hot, it's not even fair.

My wife said, "I bet the NHL loves having her around for award shows."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:46 AM ET
14 F, 7 D, and over $5m in space to sign a 2nd goalie.

Giroux ~ 8.275
Voracek ~ 8.25
Schenn ~ 5.125
Ghost ~ 5
MacDonald ~ 5
Filppula ~ 5
Couturier ~ 4.33
Simmonds ~ 3.975
Read ~ 3.625
Gudas ~ 3.35
Neuvirth ~ 2.5
Raffl ~ 2.35
Weise ~ 2.35
Umberger BUYOUT ~ 1.5
Weal ~ 1.45
Manning ~ 0.975
Lindblom ~ 0.925
Nico/Nolan ~ 0.925
Konecny ~ 0.894
Provorov ~ 0.894
Sanheim ~ 0.863
Morin ~ 0.863
Laughton ~ 0.85
TOTAL ~ 69.269

- Feanor


Top-line center.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:50 AM ET
Looks to be pretty quiet so far today on the trade aspect. Guess everyone is recovering from their night out in Vegas...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:52 AM ET
Looks to be pretty quiet so far today on the trade aspect. Guess everyone is recovering from their night out in Vegas...
- FlyersGrace

They usually happen at the draft anyway, but I would expect some deals that actually happened during the expansion process
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:55 AM ET
Top-line center.
- jmatchett383


They really don't have 5 mil in space. They have potentially a lot less because of bonuses. I would assume Patrick with have a total possible salary around 3 potentially if meeting the bonus provisions. They will prolly bank for that this year. I still see 18-19 as the year you see changes with potentially 15-18 in cap space with nobody on roster needing a new contract to go out and acquire a top player.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
Will we hit 2000 replies after draft day?
Is there another team on HB that has = or better fans then us?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
So god damn hot, it's not even fair.

My wife said, "I bet the NHL loves having her around for award shows."

- jmatchett383


lol...I wasn't even watching the show. I was outside cutting the lawn. At about 8:30 my high-school aged nephew texted me "you HAVE to put on the awards show!!!!!!"

I kept it on until the end. lol

Interesting that the best they could do for a host/MC was the guy from Pee-Wee's Big Holiday.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
Will we hit 2000 replies after draft day?
Is there another team on HB that has = or better fans then us?

- Konalover

Coyotes get a lot of replies so they're fans seem pretty great
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:07 AM ET
lol...I wasn't even watching the show. I was outside cutting the lawn. At about 8:30 my high-school aged nephew texted me "you HAVE to put on the awards show!!!!!!"

I kept it on until the end. lol

Interesting that the best they could do for a host/MC was the guy from Pee-Wee's Big Holiday.

- Scoob

and Magic Mike
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:09 AM ET
Will we hit 2000 replies after draft day?
Is there another team on HB that has = or better fans then us?

- Konalover

I think we peaked at 2K though we pretty much covered all of our bases in here yesterday
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:09 AM ET
Phantoms re-signed Swavely if you were a little upset over a coach losing his most trusted, dependable 4th liners
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
They really don't have 5 mil in space. They have potentially a lot less because of bonuses. I would assume Patrick with have a total possible salary around 3 potentially if meeting the bonus provisions. They will prolly bank for that this year. I still see 18-19 as the year you see changes with potentially 15-18 in cap space with nobody on roster needing a new contract to go out and acquire a top player.
- jmdodgeser4


It's also a good idea to leave about 1M for injuries and call ups.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:15 AM ET
and Magic Mike
- YuenglingJagr


unfamiliar

Also, I kept wondering why the heck Sophia Vergara was there. Later my wife informed me that she's married to the host/MC guy.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:15 AM ET
Kathryn Tappen
- Scoob


You guys are a bunch of Marcel Dionnes in here...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:16 AM ET
unfamiliar

Also, I kept wondering why the heck Sophia Vergara was there. Later my wife informed me that she's married to the host/MC guy.

- Scoob

and here I thought you were cultured
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:22 AM ET
and here I thought you were cultured
- YuenglingJagr


I'm not much of a movie/Hollywood guy so most of that stuff is unknown to me.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
I'm not much of a movie/Hollywood guy so most of that stuff is unknown to me.
- Scoob

I knew him from True Blood...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
I'm not much of a movie/Hollywood guy so most of that stuff is unknown to me.
- Scoob

it is only the best male stripper movie ever made
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
it is only the best male stripper movie ever made
- YuenglingJagr


Thanks for the warning
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
Florida hired Pronger as a senior advisor to the President of Hockey operations
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