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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
Could be, then again he might not. I'm thinking not.
- MJL


Will Nico or Nolan score 60 points as a 19 year olds? For Nolan, that's the 17-18 season.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
But everyone knows Vegas will be a tire fire next season
- dragonoffrost

Cool, that settles it for me then. Let's make the trade.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
So so far the names we have seen for Vegas:

Nashville: Neal
Penguins: Fluery
Wild: Huala
Toronto: Liepsic
Anaheim: Stoner(get Theodore in side deal)

Can anyone else add from things the have seen. not Ek but reputable guys?

- J35Bacher



ANA Clayton Stoner
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson
DAL Cody Eakin
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula
MTL Alexei Emelin
NAS James Neal
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot
PHI
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury
SJS
STL David Perron
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa)
WAS
WPG
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
Do you think Flyer fans are crazy enough to create a Flower fan club where they all wear big choppers?

- Glak18


Yes, and not coincidentally those choppers will be the right size and weight to throw onto the ice.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
I have seriously seen 12 year old girls do pull ups.
- Glak18


Parking on the street by the middle school playground, eh.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 2:46 PM ET
ANA Clayton Stoner(Shea Theodore)
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson
DAL Cody Eakin
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula
MTL Alexei Emelin
NAS James Neal
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot
PHI
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury
SJS
STL David Perron
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa)
WAS
WPG

- Feanor

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 2:47 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 2:48 PM ET

- Scoob


Sweep the leg!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:49 PM ET
Or it could be 10th, 15th, 25th..... you can't trade a top 2 pick assuming a pick you'll get in return will be the same the following year.
- Flyers1218

It's definitely a risk but odds say it's likely a top 5 pick. If not top 10 easily. Jus look at past examples of expansion teams. Most of the time the team is last or near last in the standings.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:49 PM ET
I bought Zelda Breath of the Wind for my Wii U, great game, but not as groundbreaking as people make it out to be. I also play it on my PC using an emulator called CEMU. After every update to the emulator Zelda plays better and better. The reason why I prefer it on PC is because you're not locked into 30 fps and when the frames drop on consoles it becomes unplayable for me.

I recommended a PS4 Pro to my sister because she has an OLED 4K tv, but if you don't have a 4K already then a regular PS4 would be just fine. The Pro version does have a small loading time increase, minor graphical enhancements and mostly looks better due to HDR. Personally it's not worth it unless you already own a 4K tv/monitor with HDR.

I just bought Horizon Zero Dawn on sale and it should arrive today. The game alone is worth picking up a PS4. Plus I recommend Nioh as well. Both have tons of content and hours to play and can be played at your leisure. That's why I picked them up.

- Glak18


Sorry got caught in some work training, BUT Zero Dawn is the exact game why I want a PS4 as well as the new God of War and Crash Bandicut! I have the 4K tv and was really looking into getting the Xbox One X come November. I was pretty impressed with their E3 showing the other week.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
Will Nico or Nolan score 60 points as a 19 year olds? For Nolan, that's the 17-18 season.
- Feanor


Don't know but that has zero to do with Mitch Marner becoming the next Patrick Kane. Earlier in the thread, Tomahawk stated that Nico and Nolan are similar players to Marner.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
ANA Clayton Stoner(Shea Theodore)
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson
DAL Cody Eakin
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula(Alex Tuch)
MTL Alexei Emelin
NAS James Neal
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot
PHI
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury
SJS
STL David Perron
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa)
WAS
WPG

- Feanor

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:00 PM ET
I still feel like after all the dust settles Vegas will end up with mostly scrubs... Maybe I'm just pessimistic.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 3:01 PM ET
ANA Clayton Stoner 3.2
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson 1.0
DAL Cody Eakin 3.8
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula (RFA)
MTL Alexei Emelin 4.1
NAS James Neal 5
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot 4.9
PHI
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury 5.7
SJS
STL David Perron 3.7
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic (RFA)
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa) (RFA)
WAS
WPG

- Feanor


That list is getting them to the min salary drafted pretty quick.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 3:07 PM ET
Half empty half full? SO if we do trade the #2 overall and Patrick ends up an injury prone bust (I don't believe this) this could turn out to be the greatest trade / bullet dodged by Hextall
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 21 @ 3:09 PM ET
I still feel like after all the dust settles Vegas will end up with mostly scrubs... Maybe I'm just pessimistic.
- FlyersGrace


I think you're right. A lot of scraps out there that will make a poop team. McPhee knows this as well, hence the aggressive presser the other day about holding players hostage for draft picks. He knows accumulating picks is the only way to go.

If I were any other team, I'd play stone face and say go ahead, take my player. Enjoy your poop team I'm keeping my picks.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 3:09 PM ET
That list is getting them to the min salary drafted pretty quick.
- dragonoffrost


ANA Clayton Stoner 3.2
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson 1.0
DAL Cody Eakin 3.8
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula (RFA)
MTL Alexei Emelin 4.1
NAS James Neal 5
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot 4.9
PHI Andrew MacDonald 5.0
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury 5.7
SJS
STL David Perron 3.7
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic (RFA)
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa) (RFA)
WAS
WPG

Too Soon?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 3:12 PM ET
I think you're right. A lot of scraps out there that will make a poop team. McPhee knows this as well, hence the aggressive presser the other day about holding players hostage for draft picks. He knows accumulating picks is the only way to go.

If I were any other team, I'd play stone face and say go ahead, take my player. Enjoy your poop team I'm keeping my picks.

- StepfordSam



I don't know.

Without some deals they could take some solid players.

MIN: Dumba/Scandella/Staal
ANA: Vatenen/Manson
PIT: Rust


I mean they could build a half decent team. Will they be any worse then Vancouver?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
I don't know.

Without some deals they could take some solid players.

MIN: Dumba/Scandella/Staal
ANA: Vatenen/Manson
PIT: Rust


I mean they could build a half decent team. Will they be any worse then Vancouver?

- J35Bacher


They could. Not sure if that is the best option longterm for them. Overall they would be bottom third team in the league in my opinion.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
ANA Clayton Stoner 3.2
ARI
BOS
BUF
CGY
CAR
CHI
COL
CBJ William Karlsson 1.0
DAL Cody Eakin 3.8
DET
EDM
FLA
LAK
MIN Erik Haula (RFA)
MTL Alexei Emelin 4.1
NAS James Neal 5
NJD
NYI
NYR
OTT Marc Methot 4.9
PHI Andrew MacDonald 5.0
PIT Marc-Andre Fleury 5.7
SJS
STL David Perron 3.7
TBL
TOR Brendan Leipsic (RFA)
VAN Brendan Gaunce (Luca Sbisa) (RFA)
WAS
WPG

Too Soon?

- J35Bacher


Nope, but only because Fleury's salary isn't half retained and sent to philly.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
They could. Not sure if that is the best option longterm for them. Overall they would be bottom third team in the league in my opinion.
- StepfordSam



Yeah.

I am not sure what the best plan is. I mean they could get some 1st rounders and then maybe flip them for better players instead of using them to draft.

Like they take Fleury and get a 1st rounder form pit and then flip 1st rounder to montreal for Galchenyuk or some younger vet player like that.

I'll be curious to see how they build this
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
love pants
- YuenglingJagr

cold take btw
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
We should see a huge improvement on the forwards but the big question is tending and defense. If Amac is eating top minutes again and Neuvirth is our #1 it's going to be a rough season.
- SimmerDown17

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 3:39 PM ET
Don't know but that has zero to do with Mitch Marner becoming the next Patrick Kane. Earlier in the thread, Tomahawk stated that Nico and Nolan are similar players to Marner.
- MJL


Do you realize how obvious it is that you're minimizing Marner and pumping up Patrick simply because one isn't Flyers property and one probably soon will be?

We've all seen you do this song and dance many times before.
jra173
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Somewhere in the Middle, PA
Joined: 04.27.2017

Jun 21 @ 3:42 PM ET

- Scoob


should have beat highlander for the academy award, for best movie ever made.
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