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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:06 PM ET
Hopefully that top line winger you speak of is not named James Neal...because you know you said top line and he is not.

Ditto as above (goaltender wise) that doesn't have horse teeth.

#1 center at pick 6...when most people don't even know if pick 1 and 2 are even #1 centers?

- Glak18


Neal is very capable of scoring 30 goals on a top line with power play time. And is one last year of contract which if we somehow miss the playoffs could be turned into assets.

And Fluery did good in this years playoffs and is the best goalie you can get without giving huge money or term. It's almost a perfect fit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:08 PM ET
Willing to listen to offers ≠ Not being excited about Nico/Nolan
- Tomahawk



The reasons you've given for being willing to listen to offers indicates a lack of excitement for either player in my opinion. If Patrick becomes an all situations 1C, even if he is in the bottom tier of that category, he will be a far more valuable player than a player such as Marner will ever be.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:08 PM ET
Neal is very capable of scoring 30 goals on a top line with power play time. And is one last year of contract which if we somehow miss the playoffs could be turned into assets.

And Fluery did good in this years playoffs and is the best goalie you can get without giving huge money or term. It's almost a perfect fit.

- youarewrong


It might be a perfect fit if the Flyers were in win now mode. Neal is not a great piece.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
When did Nico/Nolan turn into OV/Malkin?
- Tomahawk

Thank you! People in this forum are over rating the #2 pick. I understand the biggest need for the team is a #1C but my goodness people have gone silly.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
The reasons you've given for being willing to listen to offers indicates a lack of excitement for either player in my opinion.
- MJL


Your opinion on my opinion is incorrect sir.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
Thank you! People in this forum are over rating the #2 pick. I understand the biggest need for the team is a #1C but my goodness people have gone silly.
- coffee junkie



In my opinion many are underrating the #2 pick and it's importance to the Flyers. Stating that anyone is comparing it to selecting Malkin is hyperbole. Nobody has done that.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
It's not closed. They could give us a top line left winger. A number 1 goalie. A 6th overall in this draft and their 2018 first which will likely be a top 3-5 pick.

So to move down 4 spots we get a LW for Giroux and a Number 1 goalie to hold the spot till Hart or Sandstrom is ready plus a chance at a franchise player in next years draft, not just a number 1 center and possibly still get a number 1 center with the 6th overall.

- youarewrong

I'm being serious, bc I haven't fully examined who is available, but what players are talking about? The goalies are being said to be had for third round picks. MAF? We want to trade the second to have MAF as our starting goalie? By all accounts it's the top two and then the rest are meh in terms of moving down. Plus with NHL parity who says their pick will be top 5.

Just make the pick and if you want a goalie trade a 3rd. Now is not the time to play mad scientist. Make the pick and continue on the path you've built. Let's not play games here.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
Place bets who goes in 6 hrs....

My bet goes to re...pe.....Neuvy wins s a dark horse with ties....

- Konalover


Bellemare
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
Thank you! People in this forum are over rating the #2 pick. I understand the biggest need for the team is a #1C but my goodness people have gone silly.
- coffee junkie

I don't know how many times I have to keep saying that I KNOW THE OFFERS I PUT UP ARE LUDICROUS THAT'S THE POINT YOU DON'T JUMP THAT MANY SPOTS THEN GIVE AWAY THE PICK FOR "FAIR VALUE"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
Just sayin

Max Talbot came here from Pittsburgh and had a career year

Jaromir Jagr spurned Pittsburgh to come here and helped Giroux have his best year ever

Marc Andre Fleury is next.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
Place bets who goes in 6 hrs....

My bet goes to re...pe.....Neuvy wins s a dark horse with ties....

- Konalover


I'll say it....


A MAC!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm being serious, bc I haven't fully examined who is available, but what players are talking about? The goalies are being said to be had for third round picks. MAF? We want to trade the second to have MAF as our starting goalie? By all accounts it's the top two and then the rest are meh in terms of moving down. Plus with NHL parity who says their pick will be top 5.

Just make the pick and if you want a goalie trade a 3rd. Now is not the time to play mad scientist. Make the pick and continue on the path you've built. Let's not play games here.

- Flyers1218


No reason for the Flyers to pay a premium for any stop gap player. They're not close to being a contending team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
Place bets who goes in 6 hrs....

My bet goes to re...pe.....Neuvy wins s a dark horse with ties....

- Konalover


Who is the "pe..." you're referring to?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
The reasons you've given for being willing to listen to offers indicates a lack of excitement for either player in my opinion. If Patrick becomes an all situations 1C, even if he is in the bottom tier of that category, he will be a far more valuable player than a player such as Marner will ever be.
- MJL


That's pretty silly. Marner could be another Patrick Kane, who is worth more than a bottom tier 1C.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
any chance Spencer Foo signs with us?
- bulet13


We're down to one of four teams but my gut is he realizes there's not enough roster spots.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
Neal is very capable of scoring 30 goals on a top line with power play time. And is one last year of contract which if we somehow miss the playoffs could be turned into assets.

And Fluery did good in this years playoffs and is the best goalie you can get without giving huge money or term. It's almost a perfect fit.

- youarewrong

Oh sweet Jesus. You could have both for less.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
Thank you! People in this forum are over rating the #2 pick. I understand the biggest need for the team is a #1C but my goodness people have gone silly.
- coffee junkie


It's the #2 pick in a draft where the top 2 players are set apart. Those 2 players just happen to play the position where you will have the most need in a few years' time. So yes, since you have no incentive to trade down, you better get a ludicrous package.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
any chance Spencer Foo signs with us?
- bulet13

no
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
I got this sickening picture in my head...

The Flyers trade for MAF and by mid-season newspaper headlines read "We traded for a flower and got a weed".

Sounds about right.

FYI: I just patented that headline, no takeys!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
Who is the "pe..." you're referring to?
- jmatchett383


PEB?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
That's pretty silly. Marner could be another Patrick Kane, who is worth more than a bottom tier 1C.
- Feanor


Could be, then again he might not. I'm thinking not.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 2:15 PM ET
When did Nico/Nolan turn into OV/Malkin?
- Tomahawk

Washington should have taken Malkin
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 2:15 PM ET
I got this sickening picture in my head...

The Flyers trade for MAF and by mid-season newspaper headlines read "We traded for a flower and got a weed".

Sounds about right.

- Glak18


lol and during a losing streak: "The flower is a shrinking violet."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
Washington should have taken Malkin
- mayorofangrytown


Penguins should have taken Ryan.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jun 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
PEB?
- Scoob

Yep...but my bet end on Neuvy.
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