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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:38 PM ET
I was looking long term.

If you think Hornqvist will break down eventually and/or will become too expensive to re-sign long term as a bottom 6 forward...it might make more sense to trade him now and sign Oshie who can be in the top 6 long term for just a little more money

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Pens could have Sheary, Kessel, and Sprong all playing RW next year so they don't need a replacement at RW.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:40 PM ET
You think Jordan would be pissed!
- Thorny87


Haha..Jordan is probably already pissed.

There should be a big blog coming soon on the 3C situation...we've talked about Galchenyuk, Thorton, Staal, Bozak, Duchene, etc. There are a surprising amount of good options available.

YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
Pens could have Sheary, Kessel, and Sprong all playing RW next year so they don't need a replacement at RW.
- Tojo.


But Oshie is a "free asset" who was often the Caps best player in the playoffs, and plays a heavy game we currently dont have. I would find a way to make it work....especially if we flipped a strength (Right wing, hornqvist) for a weakness (defense, letang insurance)
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
Haha..Jordan is probably already pissed.

There should be a big blog coming soon on the 3C situation...we've talked about Galchenyuk, Thorton, Staal, Bozak, Duchene, etc. There are a surprising amount of good options available.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Plus there is always the option of Bonino coming back. We all expect him to get big money somewhere else, but if it doesn't happen and he likes it here, he could be right back here as the 3C again.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
After GMJR's comments about size you guys think he might go after Brian Boyle?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:47 PM ET
But Oshie is a "free asset" who was often the Caps best player in the playoffs, and plays a heavy game we currently dont have. I would find a way to make it work....especially if we flipped a strength (Right wing, hornqvist) for a weakness (defense, letang insurance)
- YouMeAndDupuis9

They don't need a RW even if they move Hornqvist, so I wouldn't pay 6M to get Oshie. Use the cap space elsewhere.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
After GMJR's comments about size you guys think he might go after Brian Boyle?
- Thorny87

It's possible.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
why arn't the penguins in on spencer foo... always go all in for the college players. they are free players and with the penguins most of them are good contributors to the big club. you need all the young cheap talent you can get... another big miss by GMJR.
penguins have a really good development system that gives great reward to college talent so I have no idea why foo is not considering pittsburgh.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
Cool story.
- j.boyd919

Just making an observation. Sorry if it triggered you so you had to act "cool".
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
They don't need a RW even if they move Hornqvist, so I wouldn't pay 6M to get Oshie. Use the cap space elsewhere.
- Tojo.


This. Defense is a glaring weakness, especially given Letang's injury history. Go after a guy like Kulikov or take a shot at MDZ.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
Please tell me exactly which team is going to do the defending champions a favor like that for a 7th round pick.
- jmatchett383


Just about any one of them. A 7th round pick is a free asset to them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Just about any one of them. A 7th round pick is a free asset to them.
- sditulli


Such as?
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
If I'm Vegas I'm no doubt taking Mrazek and Fleury to be split starters with the plan being trading Fleury 18-19 season for picks (if not sooner if Raanta or Mrazek does great). Then you have Raanta or Grubauer as a back up after that. That's a great goalie situation.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Kessel has a higher SCF winning percentage though.
- Feds91Stammer

This is why I love/hate selective stats. They are fun to twist around to fit my agenda but are easily used against me. haha
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
If I'm Vegas I'm no doubt taking Mrazek and Fleury to be split starters with the plan being trading Fleury 18-19 season for picks (if not sooner if Raanta or Mrazek does great). Then you have Raanta or Grubauer as a back up after that. That's a great goalie situation.
- Zac_O

Don't think any of those guys get through waivers. I'd go Fleury-Grubauer
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
This. Defense is a glaring weakness, especially given Letang's injury history. Go after a guy like Kulikov or take a shot at MDZ.
- jmatchett383

MDZ is on my list of bargain targets. Think that might be the route I'd go on the 3rd pairing unless I can find a righty I like.

I want a top pair leffy and a bottom pair righty, yet all the most interesting names are reversed.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
After GMJR's comments about size you guys think he might go after Brian Boyle?
- Thorny87


Only as a 4th line center on a cheap contract.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
What about a package of Sprong+Rust+1st for Brodie... Would you pull the trigger on that?
- j.boyd919


Personally I wouldn't. I don't want to see Sprong traded. I think he has such a bright future and will be a dynamic player for the Pens.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
Don't think any of those guys get through waivers. I'd go Fleury-Grubauer
- Tojo.

I'd go Mrazek, Raanta, and Ullmark. Ullmark is waiver exempt. Then you take Schmidt and Rust/Hagelin.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
After GMJR's comments about size you guys think he might go after Brian Boyle?
- Thorny87

Does he just want size or someone that plays physical too? Boyle is an average 4C that plays very soft especially for his size.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
I'd go Mrazek, Raanta, and Ullmark. Ullmark is waiver exempt. Then you take Schmidt and Rust/Hagelin.
- Feds91Stammer

I like Ullmark as a 3rd goalie as well. Tough to leave Schmidt there (at least partially for how bad it would screw the Caps), but I like Grubauer better as the long-term guy.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
Mattaa + 1st + roster player or prospect not called sprong or zach. for duchene and will butcher. kappa
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 20 @ 1:20 PM ET
I like Ullmark as a 3rd goalie as well. Tough to leave Schmidt there (at least partially for how bad it would screw the Caps), but I like Grubauer better as the long-term guy.
- Tojo.

My prediction is that Schmidt will be claimmed by LV.

LV also will take Fleury.
Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Jun 20 @ 1:21 PM ET
why arn't the penguins in on spencer foo... always go all in for the college players. they are free players and with the penguins most of them are good contributors to the big club. you need all the young cheap talent you can get... another big miss by GMJR.
penguins have a really good development system that gives great reward to college talent so I have no idea why foo is not considering pittsburgh.

- martox


You do realize that all the fish in the sea don't just go to "one" location don't you? Many players choose an organization they fit best with or have ties to through someone in an organization, Pittsburgh isn't a fit for every single college player. Not a miss at all by GMJR
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:22 PM ET
You do realize that all the fish in the sea don't just go to "one" location don't you? Many players choose an organization they fit best with or have ties to through someone in an organization, Pittsburgh isn't a fit for every single college player. Not a miss at all by GMJR
- Darklight11

sure it is
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