did somebody suggest that?
- classic321

Not in the context it's being made out to be but then again reading and comprehension is a hard concept for some.

Yes
- Redmile247

I think Chiarelli is one of the worst GM's in the league but no way he makes that deal.

Tanev is not that good.

Trouba would get that.

Time the Yotes make a PO push. Good stockpile of kids already.
Need D & a starter. Give OEL the help he needs.
- Nighthawk

Yeah you are right on that as a concept but not convinced they are ready to be buying like that. All their moves are sell and build types so far.

I know making a good trade and leverage is a strange concept to a Flames fan. It's what I would charge for trading within the division. Canucks don't need to sell to Oil. So if they want to buy then overpay they must.

Can't see why you don't get that concept. Trades are not solely based about value for value but one of position and opportunity.

Anyway, that post you clued out on was saying Isles were better trading partner between the two. Oil in addition to being in division have worse draft pick and overeral prospects. All they got of interest really is JP.
- Nuck4U

Wouldn't the oil want to charge for trading the guy projected behind Mathews and Laine within the division ?

the isles just protected 5 d men ...now they are a better trading partner ?

Wouldn't the oil want to charge for trading the guy projected behind Mathews and Laine within the division ?

the isles just protected 5 d men ...now they are a better trading partner ?
- Redmile247

He's buying so he's not in position to charge. If he wants the player then that's the price for doing business. Like you saw in getting Larsen for Hall he had to overpay.

As for the Isles that's because they have a ton of prospects that were exempt from expansion draft. That's why they are better trading partner between the two if Isles are buying. Plus their better draft pick.

I think Chiarelli is one of the worst GM's in the league but no way he makes that deal.

Tanev is not that good.

Trouba would get that.
- classic321

He shouldn't if Trouba is made available. But if not and he's got no options but wants to buy he'll overpay. Just like he did before. But here Canucks should gouge the buyer more cause its within the division.

He's buying so he's not in position to charge. If he wants the player then that's the price for doing business. Like you saw in getting Larsen for Hall he had to overpay.

As for the Isles that's because they have a ton of prospects that were exempt from expansion draft. That's why they are better trading partner between the two if Isles are buying. Plus their better draft pick.
- Nuck4U

NYI most likely has a side deal in place with LV

He's buying so he's not in position to charge. If he wants the player then that's the price for doing business. Like you saw in getting Larsen for Hall he had to overpay.

As for the Isles that's because they have a ton of prospects that were exempt from expansion draft. That's why they are better trading partner between the two if Isles are buying. Plus their better draft pick.
- Nuck4U

Somehow I don't think chireli is as desperate to trade as last year

He shouldn't if Trouba is made available. But if not and he's got no options but wants to buy he'll overpay. Just like he did before. But here Canucks should gouge the buyer more cause its within the division.
- Nuck4U

Different scenario than last offseason ... another hall for Larsson won't happen

Liljergren could apparently fall that far.
- thundachunk

id say no further than 12

Somehow I don't think chireli is as desperate to trade as last year
- Redmile247

Yeah I would agree on that. So don't think it's likely they shop.

If you want to swing focus on best trade partner for a Tanev deal factoring leverage and reward then Dallas is it. Next would be Buffalo and Bolts. Then Yotes and Isles. I'd put Pens above Oil too.

But that's the most likely buying group right now in my opinion above. It's hard to say what shakes out after expansion flurry of activity. But either way JB has options.

Different scenario than last offseason ... another hall for Larsson won't happen
- Redmile247

Don't be so sure. Many would say Drouin for Sergachev was in same theme of overpayment.

NYI most likely has a side deal in place with LV
- Nighthawk

Yeah talk is they are giving up their first.

Don't be so sure. Many would say Drouin for Sergachev was in same theme of overpayment.
- Nuck4U

I meant in edm ....

Drouin and sergachev are both skilled so I don't see it the same

Yeah I would agree on that. So don't think it's likely they shop.

If you want to swing focus on best trade partner for a Tanev deal factoring leverage and reward then Dallas is it. Next would be Buffalo and Bolts. Then Yotes and Isles. I'd put Pens above Oil too.

But that's the most likely buying group right now in my opinion above. It's hard to say what shakes out after expansion flurry of activity. But either way JB has options.
- Nuck4U

Dallas makes the most sense ...yotes the least

Like it or not circumventing the cap should be penalized.
- Nighthawk

except that if that player is traded the penalty should go with the contract. That prevents the original team from circumvention by making the player untradable, but protects say like the canucks from getting penalized well into a new regime years after a player is traded

However I wonder, do the canucks have a legit beef with this in that luongo's contract was done before the penalty was even know about?

Really don't think Tanev gets moved until maybe mid-season if at all this year. Vegas will have players like Methot to sell to teams needing a defensive defenseman, and it won't be at as high of a cost as what people think we can get for Tanev.
Vegas not only will get lots of picks for taking/not taking certain players, they will have an abundance of defensemen available for picks driving the cost down.

Let's wait and see what As_I_See_It thinks.
- Scooby_Doo

just so I can wipe my ass with it

Dallas makes the most sense ...yotes the least
- Redmile247

Yeah agree with you on Yotes. But was going with Nighthawk's take that's it's time for them to start buying. Only then do they bump up on list for try on partnering up OEL with Tanev.

Time the Yotes make a PO push. Good stockpile of kids already.
Need D & a starter. Give OEL the help he needs.
- Nighthawk

perhaps why doan has been ejected

Just got back from a family function, met my Uncle's new wife, and here is the kicker






I graduated with her.
- A_SteamingLombardi

as long as they are happy together

Not in the context it's being made out to be but then again reading and comprehension is a hard concept for some.
- Nuck4U

Ive noticed the very same thing bro

...it's epidemic here.

NYI most likely has a side deal in place with LV
- Nighthawk

well they do have a deal in place in which nyi surrenders a 1st for lv to take grabovski

I meant in edm ....

Drouin and sergachev are both skilled so I don't see it the same
- Redmile247

Okay on Oil. But Habs and Bolts trade is within theme of overpayment for D despite skill level. A prospect for established and proven young star scorer is not an even value trade.

Anyway, see Oil tapping Vegas for trades on their D pickups. They got d!ck to offer on expansion draft they may talk up offering prospects to get some D off Vegas.

Really don't think Tanev gets moved until maybe mid-season if at all this year. Vegas will have players like Methot to sell to teams needing a defensive defenseman, and it won't be at as high of a cost as what people think we can get for Tanev.
Vegas not only will get lots of picks for taking/not taking certain players, they will have an abundance of defensemen available for picks driving the cost down.
- Reubenkincade

or maybe even higher. Sell to the highest bidder is what most Gms not named mike millbury would do