I know we are probably close to getting a new blog, but I spent a bit of time looking at team's depth charts and found the following about when the 120 "top-4" D were selected in the draft:

Round 1: 52
Round 2: 23
Round 3: 12
Round 4: 8
Round 5: 3
Round 6: 5
Round 7: 3
Round 8: 2
Round 9: 1
Undrafted: 11

To me, this is a no brainer that JB needs to spend some time drafting and developing top defensemen from the top end of the draft. Center is a need, but a flashy choice at this time IMO when you consider the lack of attention paid to the back end in recent years:

VAN currently has:
Edler - 3rd rounder
Tanev - undrafted
Stecher - undrafted
Gudbranson - 1st rounder
Hutton - 5th rounder
Sbisa - 1st rounder
Beiga - 5th rounder

Prospects they have:
Juolevi - 1st rounder
Subban - 4th rounder
Pedan - 3rd rounder
Brisebois - 3rd rounder
Tryamkin - 3rd rounder
McEneny - undrafted
Chatfield - undrafted
Sautner - undrafted

I already said the 5OA + Tanev for 3OA + 29OA + Prospect was the makings of a solid deal. A deal that is somewhat plausible. Obviously the prospect still needs to be established, but you can see that it's realistic. Tanev for the 3OA + "A" prospect simply is not... And that's fairly clear, wouldn't you agree?

As far as your "validation" comment goes, obviously nobody needs anything from anybody... But am I not allowed to disagree or even cut down COMPLETE bullpoop trades regardless of which blog they appear? Yes. Just like anyone can do the same for me and does from time to time.

Lightnen up, brother. We're all hockey fans here and we don't have to agree or even like each other.
- As_I_See_It

BTW , NO I DO NOT AGREE

they are not COMPLETE bullpoop.

And you are correct on one thing only, I don't have to like you..and I certainly don't agree with you.

nope, just leaf bandwagoners coming in and trying to sound smart.
- Crazybagoham

like that was EVER going to be achieved

So we want to trade down after tanking to get a high pick

Trade down after a two month debate about BPA

Extend the Sedins and Benning

And oh my lord we will lose Sbisa

Okay as you were
- VANTEL

Drama, drama, drama

Drama, drama, drama
- Makita

You know there is only two spots you can drop from 29 .

It's not like you would be worse off if you tried something new

I know we are probably close to getting a new blog, but I spent a bit of time looking at team's depth charts and found the following about when the 120 "top-4" D were selected in the draft:

Round 1: 52
Round 2: 23
Round 3: 12
Round 4: 8
Round 5: 3
Round 6: 5
Round 7: 3
Round 8: 2
Round 9: 1
Undrafted: 11

To me, this is a no brainer that JB needs to spend some time drafting and developing top defensemen from the top end of the draft. Center is a need, but a flashy choice at this time IMO when you consider the lack of attention paid to the back end in recent years:

VAN currently has:
Edler - 3rd rounder
Tanev - undrafted
Stecher - undrafted
Gudbranson - 1st rounder
Hutton - 5th rounder
Sbisa - 1st rounder
Beiga - 5th rounder

Prospects they have:
Juolevi - 1st rounder
Subban - 4th rounder
Pedan - 3rd rounder
Brisebois - 3rd rounder
Tryamkin - 3rd rounder
McEneny - undrafted
Chatfield - undrafted
Sautner - undrafted
- WhiteLie

Nice list I know you want Heiskanen or Makar (I do as well) but I think they will both be gone. My money is on us selecting Glass

There were other ridiculous trade scenarios that didn't involve VAN's 5OA. Just look at some of the garbage Dragon was pitching. Totally out to lunch. That's what I was referring to.

What you have posted above is actually somewhat reasonable.
- As_I_See_It

you are picking a fight with me, this is not cool.
Look at your own posting history for someone who is out to lunch.

Makita please show this troll the door

Nice list I know you want Heiskanen or Makar (I do as well) but I think they will both be gone. My money is on us selecting Glass
- CanuckDon

I agree that the current draft order likely has those two gone, but I also think that Vegas is the x-factor here. If they are truly acquiring several 1st rounders, I cannot see why they wouldnt make several major moves to get into the top 5 which could flip the script a little.

If not those two, Mittlestadt, Glass and Vilardi are my preferences

Benning is a HUGE Makar fan. There is very real chance we take him if he slips past Colorado
- CanuckDon

yes. And we should
Thats likely thats why he was looking at the 3oa.

You can play the victim card if you like, especially when you post inflammatory posts like this in the Leafs Blog and promptly need to tell Canuck fans that whether or not their valuation is garbage.

"The collective brain damage and delusion in the Nucks' thread surrounding Tanev's value is staggering.

It's as if they think the rest of the league wants to help fast track their rebuild and bail them out of the their problems by doing them favours.

Sad, but not surprising".

Go play your silly bugger games elsewhere, maybe you should head back to your thread to report on the brain damaged ref in the canucks thread
- Makita

Excellent post Makita.

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if these guys got a nice vacation from here, always playing silly bugger, like we are unable to read what they post in their blogs after they come fishing here.

And the way I_See_It is the 3rd and 5th are close to being a wash, so Tanev is worth 29th and a prospect, not naming a prospect but a prospect that could not amount to anything.

And this is why Tanev will stay a Canuck, because it's not worth 2 possibilities for someone that has a proven skill set.
- Makita

I agree with this. Posters seem to forget that many propects dont work out.
JB would have to be pretty darn certain the player is legit nhl product. I do have to say that I feel Makar is worth taking a leap of faith on

Looks like JB and Nill are playing another game of chicken. Hope this time Stars blink and overpay. He burned JB who was selling last time on Hammer. Last minute to go for lesser player they later lost in free agency. So given Star's needs, and what's available out there, hope JB bends them over for Tanev with 3OA plus prospect and cap dump. Won't know until draft announcements probably.

So far the available D off expansion protectect lists weren't either good enough for Stars 3OA or not what them teams need. We know the top forwards available out there or moved weren't wanted by Stars. There are reports that Vegas is going to deal D picked up. We'll know by tomorrow. After that it's likely Stars options will narrow.

That comes back to Canucks. If Stars want to fill their needs they give JB the price for Tanev. Otherwise they take their pick and Nill holds his breadth he'll still be around in 3/4 years. But JB still has options for Tanev other then Stars as so many teams need top D now.

I agree with this. Posters seem to forget that many propects dont work out.
JB would have to be pretty darn certain the player is legit nhl product. I do have to say that I feel Makar is worth taking a leap of faith on
- SMBDragon

This part doesnt scare me, I think more often then not teams will survive if a trade doesnt end up being like Gomez for McDonagh.

Off the top of my head the Joe Thornton rendered nothing but they used the salary space to sign Chara and won a cup. Iginla brought Calgary nothing when the prospects fizzled, but they are on the upswing again. Rangers trading Gaborik wasnt a massive haul, but Brassard turned into Zibenejad so one decent piece. Likewise Columbus got a few decent seasons out of the Nash haul, but few remnants remain

Its nice to get good assets back, obviously, but I think stepping up and swinging is still good enough. Its better than hoarding players until they have no value

I agree with this. Posters seem to forget that many propects dont work out.
JB would have to be pretty darn certain the player is legit nhl product. I do have to say that I feel Makar is worth taking a leap of faith on
- SMBDragon

If Dallas is willing to move Honka then I'd say the 3rd doesn't have to be involved. I know not everyone here follows other team's prospects as closely but if he was drafted by the Canucks, a lot of us would value him equal to or even higher than Juolevi.

If Dallas is willing to move Honka then I'd say the 3rd doesn't have to be involved. I know not everyone here follows other team's prospects as closely but if he was drafted by the Canucks, a lot of us would value him equal to or even higher than Juolevi.
- Nucker101

How dare you!? Juolevi is the next Lick Nidstrom.

If Dallas is willing to move Honka then I'd say the 3rd doesn't have to be involved. I know not everyone here follows other team's prospects as closely but if he was drafted by the Canucks, a lot of us would value him equal to or even higher than Juolevi.
- Nucker101

I think he would be a nice addition. I would be ok with adding him, as he very well could be the PP.guy we need.
I would think Dallas would still have too add though.

The Knights are expected to draft several restricted free agents this week, but McPhee cautioned that they may not all end up getting contracts from him.

“I don’t know if the terminology is the right terminology, but there are ‘throwaway picks.’ For some teams, there isn’t a whole lot you can do, so you’re going to take a throwaway pick instead of a big contract you don’t like,” he said. “There will be some of those claims, where we won’t qualify the player.”

Sounds like he's a big Sbisa/Gaunce fan

How dare you!? Juolevi is the next Lick Nidstrom.
- SRam19

OJ is the next Porn star

OJ is the next Porn star
- Makita

This part doesnt scare me, I think more often then not teams will survive if a trade doesnt end up being like Gomez for McDonagh.

Off the top of my head the Joe Thornton rendered nothing but they used the salary space to sign Chara and won a cup. Iginla brought Calgary nothing when the prospects fizzled, but they are on the upswing again. Rangers trading Gaborik wasnt a massive haul, but Brassard turned into Zibenejad so one decent piece. Likewise Columbus got a few decent seasons out of the Nash haul, but few remnants remain

Its nice to get good assets back, obviously, but I think stepping up and swinging is still good enough. Its better than hoarding players until they have no value
- WhiteLie

yes, us fans have to remember that you cant win every trade or draft pick

Sounds like he's a big Sbisa/Gaunce fan
- Nucker101

apparently neither is the rest of the league if he cant even acquire a low round pick for them

If Dallas is willing to move Honka then I'd say the 3rd doesn't have to be involved. I know not everyone here follows other team's prospects as closely but if he was drafted by the Canucks, a lot of us would value him equal to or even higher than Juolevi.
- Nucker101

ya Im not familiar with him

yes, us fans have to remember that you cant win every trade or draft pick
- SMBDragon

Exactly. An example would be the Sedins, whom a lot of posters hope they will walk away and retire. If we had dealt them 2 years ago for average prospects that didnt pan out, what difference would it have made between now and then? We'd still be where we are, Sedin leave for nothing anyway. Take a chance, everything will work out

yes, us fans have to remember that you cant win every trade or draft pick
- SMBDragon

The problem right now though, is we need to start winning on our high draft picks. I have a fair amount of patience, but would like too see some of our prospects making a little better progress than what has happened so far.
I want some safe picks to have a more stable pool of talent.