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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
Dallas is looking for D as well, that's why people have suggested Tanev + for the 3rd pick and keep our 5th pick
- NorthNuck

Tanev and Van's 2nd might get a 3OA. As seen by Sergachev and a 2nd for Drouin.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Just to be clear, the trade was.....

Tanev and 5ov
For
3ov, 29ov and an A prospect (d1ckson)

- Pres.cup


If this was the trade, I would be fine with it. Dont love the 29th pick, wish it was a bit higher, but a first round pick and a prospect is enough for me to move on from Tanev
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
Just to be clear, the trade was.....

Tanev and 5ov
For
3ov, 29ov and an A prospect (d1ckson)

- Pres.cup

So who would VAN take 3OA in this scenario?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
So who would VAN take 3OA in this scenario?
- As_I_See_It

same player they could probably get a 5OA
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Just to be clear, the trade was.....

Tanev and 5ov
For
3ov, 29ov and an A prospect (d1ckson)

- Pres.cup


that's good value for the nucks. benning should be all over that.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
There were other ridiculous trade scenarios that didn't involve VAN's 5OA. Just look at some of the garbage Dragon was pitching. Totally out to lunch. That's what I was referring to.

What you have posted above is actually somewhat reasonable.

- As_I_See_It


Well.... that's your problem... right there...
Im sure you've got your own posters in leaf land that... sometimes... get a little... over zealous
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
If this was the trade, I would be fine with it. Dont love the 29th pick, wish it was a bit higher, but a first round pick and a prospect is enough for me to move on from Tanev
- WhiteLie

I don't love the idea of using Tanev to move up two spots... If it was to move into the top 2, I'd be more open to it. I don't see a lot of value in moving up from 5 to 3 unless you absolutely LOVE one of the two top ranked defencemen.

Obviously, there are other pieces involved here, but I don't think Dallas would be offering up as much as people think
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:10 PM ET
So who would VAN take 3OA in this scenario?
- As_I_See_It


Nobody... we trade it to Jersey with granlund and 55ov for their first...
WhiteLie
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Jun 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
I don't love the idea of using Tanev to move up two spots... If it was to move into the top 2, I'd be more open to it. I don't see a lot of value in moving up from 5 to 3 unless you absolutely LOVE one of the two top ranked defencemen.

Obviously, there are other pieces involved here, but I don't think Dallas would be offering up as much as people think

- nucks_94


Agreed, the moving up outside the top 2 spots isnt desired. It gets worse when you realize that 29th pick was straight up for Eaves, and the Dickinson is also a 29th overall pick. Neither of those seem like excellent value, but I am not one who likes to sit/wait out for better deals. VAN has a habit of doing so and it not working out well
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Makar is high risk high reward pick.

Something which Benning is against, otherwise he would have picked Keller last year.

- classic321

Benning is a HUGE Makar fan. There is very real chance we take him if he slips past Colorado
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
Dallas is looking for D as well, that's why people have suggested Tanev + for the 3rd pick and keep our 5th pick
- NorthNuck

the whole Tanev to Dallas for the 3rd was made up by Kuzma. It never had legs.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:17 PM ET
If this was the trade, I would be fine with it. Dont love the 29th pick, wish it was a bit higher, but a first round pick and a prospect is enough for me to move on from Tanev
- WhiteLie

I just wanted Doan's rights but this is way better
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
Benning is a HUGE Makar fan. There is very real chance we take him if he slips past Colorado
- CanuckDon

Yeah, I just heard an interview with Benning and he gave a pretty direct comparison to Karlsson

If he honestly believes that Makar could be the next Karlsson, he'll need to trade up to 3rd overall cause Makar won't fall past Colorado
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 1:19 PM ET
the whole Tanev to Dallas for the 3rd was made up by Kuzma. It never had legs.
- CanuckDon

I'm not saying it's going to happen. But it is a fact they are looking for help on D, and that they are willing to trade the 3OA and it is a fact that JB would move Tanev for a good enough deal.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
There were other ridiculous trade scenarios that didn't involve VAN's 5OA. Just look at some of the garbage Dragon was pitching. Totally out to lunch. That's what I was referring to.

What you have posted above is actually somewhat reasonable.

- As_I_See_It

I must have missed the memo...when exactly did someone anoint you as the individual that decides what a person can value a Vancouver player at.

In this draft, in my opinion, Tanev is worth the 3rd overall, I certainly don't need your approval or validation of how I view things, and either doesn't Dragon
WhiteLie
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Jun 20 @ 1:26 PM ET
I just wanted Doan's rights but this is way better
- CanuckDon


Constantly undervaluing Canuck players...
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
the whole Tanev to Dallas for the 3rd was made up by Kuzma. It never had legs.
- CanuckDon


I guess Kuzma forgot to run it by Toronto fans for approval.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
I guess Kuzma forgot to run it by Toronto fans for approval.
- Makita

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
Constantly undervaluing Canuck players...
- WhiteLie

I am the poster that said Burrows wasn't worth a bag of pretzels so you may be on to something
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
I must have missed the memo...when exactly did someone anoint you as the individual that decides what a person can value a Vancouver player at.

In this draft, in my opinion, Tanev is worth the 3rd overall, I certainly don't need your approval or validation of how I view things, and either doesn't Dragon

- Makita


Even if it is fair value, for the same reason TB didn’t trade Drouin for Tanev, Dallas won’t trade the 3OA straight up for tanev.

A straight up trade like that is just terrible in the long-term.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:39 PM ET
Even if it is fair value, for the same reason TB didn’t trade Drouin for Tanev, Dallas won’t trade the 3OA straight up for tanev.

A straight up trade like that is just terrible in the long-term.

- Tumbleweed

you are correct, but I still don't like you
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:40 PM ET
Even if it is fair value, for the same reason TB didn’t trade Drouin for Tanev, Dallas won’t trade the 3OA straight up for tanev.

A straight up trade like that is just terrible in the long-term.

- Tumbleweed


Maybe, maybe not, in a weak draft with a particular team requiring a shut down defense man, you never know.

Drouin was traded for a very good defense prospect that plays a different style from Tanev, not all D play the same, not all forwards play the same.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
Did we pass on Glass and/or Vilardi yet?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
you are correct, but I still don't like you
- CanuckDon


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:43 PM ET
Maybe, maybe not, in a weak draft with a particular team requiring a shut down defense man, you never know.

Drouin was traded for a very good defense prospect that plays a different style from Tanev, not all D play the same, not all forwards play the same.

- Makita


to me, if benning is looking to move up, then:

Tanev and 5ov
For
3ov, 29ov and an A prospect

is a really good deal for the nucks.
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