Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Chayka has done a nice job of acquiring assets. I don't necessarily think it means he is doing a good job however. The Coyotes have some solid looking prospects but right now don't have a hell of a lot of talent on the roster. They have a bunch of prospects with upside, but the problem is they will most likely struggle with development because there are few good players to work them in with.
About half the teams in the league have better 3rd lines than the best line the Yotes can put together. At some point in time you have to win in the NHL, not just make asset deals just for the sake of "winning" a trade. - MacPatty
So basically you are trying to knock Chayka because Tanner is supportive of him or you are just discounting Chayka because of the lack of talent that AZ had before he even got there.
Chayka is doing a great job. |
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So basically you are trying to knock Chayka because Tanner is supportive of him or you are just discounting Chayka because of the lack of talent that AZ had before he even got there.
Chayka is doing a great job. - Feds91Stammer
best gm in the last year. hands down |
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Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Upstate, NY Joined: 05.28.2013
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ok buddy. just did - rinaldo
Liar. |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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So basically you are trying to knock Chayka because Tanner is supportive of him or you are just discounting Chayka because of the lack of talent that AZ had before he even got there.
Chayka is doing a great job. - Feds91Stammer
He really is sizing up the team in terms of talent and depth. His first year was VERY good. If he's a great GM will be determined based on how he follows up over the next 2+ years. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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So basically you are trying to knock Chayka because Tanner is supportive of him or you are just discounting Chayka because of the lack of talent that AZ had before he even got there.
Chayka is doing a great job. - Feds91Stammer
I am saying that you can't make any real judgement on what he has done so far. It looks nice on paper, but anyone can trade away guys like Yandle and Handzal at the trade deadline and acquire assets. Or take on bad contracts to get a few assets.
This summer will give you a good indication of what he can do. He has plenty of cap space and assets, now lets see if he can turn that into a roster that can be competitive before we start talking about what a great job he is doing.
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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ok buddy. just did - rinaldo
To be fair, it wasn't one of your better posts! |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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I am saying that you can't make any real judgement on what he has done so far. It looks nice on paper, but anyone can trade away guys like Yandle and Handzal at the trade deadline and acquire assets. Or take on bad contracts to get a few assets.
This summer will give you a good indication of what he can do. He has plenty of cap space and assets, now lets see if he can turn that into a roster that can be competitive before we start talking about what a great job he is doing. - MacPatty
There seems to be this idea that anyone could have done it, but isn't that what we say whenever we're confronted with something that might make us have to reassess how we think of an NHL GM?
He's 27 when hired and the avg age of a GM is like 55. Seems if we acknowledge how he's basically outperformed most of the league, we might have to reconsider how much we value experience.
Chayka has killed it. 100%. He is also dealing with his hands being tied due an untenable situation with the head coach sort of being his boss.
But if "anyone" could have made those trades, why was it Chayka who did, and not the GMs of 10-12 other struggling teams who clearly are terrible at asset management.
Chayka has done well, the only knock against his success is that virtually any smart person could come in and outperform 80% of the NHL's GMs. So your original complaint is valid but only if you consider other people and not people currently employed by an NHL team. |
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BURDA13
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 02.09.2015
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Doan is finally gone according to Pierre LeBrun... wow |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Doan is finally gone according to Pierre LeBrun... wow - BURDA13
is it really that surprising? |
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There seems to be this idea that anyone could have done it, but isn't that what we say whenever we're confronted with something that might make us have to reassess how we think of an NHL GM?
He's 27 when hired and the avg age of a GM is like 55. Seems if we acknowledge how he's basically outperformed most of the league, we might have to reconsider how much we value experience.
Chayka has killed it. 100%. He is also dealing with his hands being tied due an untenable situation with the head coach sort of being his boss.
But if "anyone" could have made those trades, why was it Chayka who did, and not the GMs of 10-12 other struggling teams who clearly are terrible at asset management.
Chayka has done well, the only knock against his success is that virtually any smart person could come in and outperform 80% of the NHL's GMs. So your original complaint is valid but only if you consider other people and not people currently employed by an NHL team. - james_tanner1
do you really think any of the moves he made where ground breaking, trend setting moves? Where they original moves that were outside the box thinking?
Lets see what he does if they ever become good. they look good on paper and e gets credit for that. your just over doing it. Was any luck involved you think?
just curious as to what other 10-12 other struggling team you are talking about. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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There seems to be this idea that anyone could have done it, but isn't that what we say whenever we're confronted with something that might make us have to reassess how we think of an NHL GM?
He's 27 when hired and the avg age of a GM is like 55. Seems if we acknowledge how he's basically outperformed most of the league, we might have to reconsider how much we value experience.
Chayka has killed it. 100%. He is also dealing with his hands being tied due an untenable situation with the head coach sort of being his boss.
But if "anyone" could have made those trades, why was it Chayka who did, and not the GMs of 10-12 other struggling teams who clearly are terrible at asset management.
Chayka has done well, the only knock against his success is that virtually any smart person could come in and outperform 80% of the NHL's GMs. So your original complaint is valid but only if you consider other people and not people currently employed by an NHL team. - james_tanner1
Again, age has nothing to do with anything. He has been GM for one year and has made some good moves. He made a few nice trades for assets and they did a nice job at the draft. All I am saying is you need to see if he can put together a team that can win hockey games before you can call him a great GM. |
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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders |
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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Doan is finally gone according to Pierre LeBrun... wow - BURDA13
He's on his way to the Islanders. Snow gave up 3-3rd rounders and a half-eaten meatball sub for him. |
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gmiel1980
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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 09.30.2015
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For your loyalty through all of the crap, for sticking with a team when not a lot of others would have, for being the face of the franchise, for always being available to fans, for your dignity during an ugly time in the face of BK, for sticking it out for as long as you did and most importantly....
For taking the time during an autograph signing for season ticket holders to talk to one of your biggest fans, laughing hysterically about the hair on your rookie card, taking the time to talk to my 11 year old daughter then, not caring what security said, letting her dad get a picture with you and her that she forever cherishes...
Thank you Shane Doan |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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is it really that surprising? - Codes1087
benning is preparing a 2-year deal |
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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders |
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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do you really think any of the moves he made where ground breaking, trend setting moves? Where they original moves that were outside the box thinking?
Lets see what he does if they ever become good. they look good on paper and e gets credit for that. your just over doing it. Was any luck involved you think?
just curious as to what other 10-12 other struggling team you are talking about. - rinaldo
I'd rather have Chayka than Snow. Just a question. What constitutes a ground-breaking, trend-setting move to you? |
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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders |
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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For your loyalty through all of the crap, for sticking with a team when not a lot of others would have, for being the face of the franchise, for always being available to fans, for your dignity during an ugly time in the face of BK, for sticking it out for as long as you did and most importantly....
For taking the time during an autograph signing for season ticket holders to talk to one of your biggest fans, laughing hysterically about the hair on your rookie card, taking the time to talk to my 11 year old daughter then, not caring what security said, letting her dad get a picture with you and her that she forever cherishes...
Thank you Shane Doan - gmiel1980
Never had the opportunity to meet him, but he seems like a very down-to-earth kind of guy. |
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I'd rather have Chayka than Snow. Just a question. What constitutes a ground-breaking, trend-setting move to you? - Isleshockeyman
the way tanner talks him up is like he is doing stuff no other gm has done before or inventing new ways to make trades is all I am saying.
not saying he is bad at all. he has made nice moves. quite frankly easy moves. just doesn't equate to being great is all. Had he said has very nice first year, I agree. |
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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders |
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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the way tanner talks him up is like he is doing stuff no other gm has done before or inventing new ways to make trades is all I am saying.
not saying he is bad at all. he has made nice moves. quite frankly easy moves. just doesn't equate to being great is all. Had he said has very nice first year, I agree. - rinaldo
Gotcha. At least he's making moves. Snow hoards all his prospects and never makes a move. |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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do you really think any of the moves he made where ground breaking, trend setting moves? Where they original moves that were outside the box thinking?
Lets see what he does if they ever become good. they look good on paper and e gets credit for that. your just over doing it. Was any luck involved you think?
just curious as to what other 10-12 other struggling team you are talking about. - rinaldo
Why does a move have to be outside the box and groundbreaking to be good? How often does anyone make a move worthy of those adjectives? Couple times a decade? |
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James Tanner
Washington Capitals |
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Location: North Cederbrooke , ON Joined: 01.19.2017
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For your loyalty through all of the crap, for sticking with a team when not a lot of others would have, for being the face of the franchise, for always being available to fans, for your dignity during an ugly time in the face of BK, for sticking it out for as long as you did and most importantly....
For taking the time during an autograph signing for season ticket holders to talk to one of your biggest fans, laughing hysterically about the hair on your rookie card, taking the time to talk to my 11 year old daughter then, not caring what security said, letting her dad get a picture with you and her that she forever cherishes...
Thank you Shane Doan - gmiel1980
That's awesome. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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benning is preparing a 2-year deal - Tumbleweed
hes saving that for extending the Sedins for a couple of years. |
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Why does a move have to be outside the box and groundbreaking to be good? How often does anyone make a move worthy of those adjectives? Couple times a decade? - james_tanner1
the way tanner talks him up is like he is doing stuff no other gm has done before or inventing new ways to make trades is all I am saying.
not saying he is bad at all. he has made nice moves. quite frankly easy moves. just doesn't equate to being great is all. Had he said has very nice first year, I agree. |
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To be fair, it wasn't one of your better posts! - james_tanner1
ha, cant be on top of game all the time!!! all good |
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