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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:31 AM ET
Lets say we can dump Moulson, we do not get players in return or maybe a D if we package it correctly, what do we do with our current players lines?

LW C RW
Evander Kane Ryan O'Reilly Kyle Okposo
Marcus Foligno Tyler Ennis Justin Bailey
Johan Larsson Jack Eichel Evan Rodrigues
Alexander Nylander Sam Reinhart Nicholas Baptiste

- lulags



You've got a lot of guys out of position here

Ennis hasn't played center in years, has done both Wings
Reinhart has been a RW for the most part, although I'd love if he was back at Center
Larsson is a center
Rodrigues got switched to center last year, but plays wing also
Nylander played RW last year
Bailey was switched to LW

U left off Girgensons, C/W
Also left off Carrier, LW
hawk33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Get off my lawn
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:34 AM ET
I bet the Rasmussen poll has you at 50% approval.
- Der Kaiser


Very good stuff.

This post made hockeybuzz great again.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 19 @ 11:34 AM ET
How many did TO start last year?
- adambuffalo


Good point. Housley seems like a development guy, so maybe it happens. I think with the current guys we have, it would make sense to bring in a bottom six vet or 2. I still see either Girgs or Larsson gone by camp
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:35 AM ET
Fun fact. Jerome Gauthier-Leduc is finally a good defenceman.

In the Elite Ice Hockey League. (Northern Ireland)
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:35 AM ET
@fitzy I still take my chances with the 2nd
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:42 AM ET
The Belfast Giants have a 10 year old playing pro hockey. Nice.

https://twitter.com/EIHLs...gue-player-of-the-week%2F
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:45 AM ET
The Belfast Giants have a 10 year old playing pro hockey. Nice.

https://twitter.com/EIHLs...gue-player-of-the-week%2F

- TheSabresTaco



He probably drinks and smokes too. So there's that.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
He probably drinks and smokes too. So there's that.
- Buffalo--Sabres


There's no laws against that in Ireland
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
There's no laws against that in Ireland
- TheSabresTaco



As one would expect
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
I've got:

Kane-ROR-Okposo
Nylander-Eichel-Ennis
Bailey-Reinhart-Baptiste
Foligno-Larsson-Girgensons

McCabe-Risto
Beaulieu-Bogo
Antipin-Guhle

Lehner
Ullmark

- jcragcrumple

GMJB talked about kids being in rochester to develop, come up when they earn a slot


lines right now IMO look more like

Kane-Eichel-Okposo
Ennis-ROR-Reinhart
Folgino-Girgens-Giionta/Larsson
Desluarers-E Rod/Larsson- some scrub
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
I am guessing the ennis rumors was fake news
- homiedclown


Nope he's gone
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
for the record, I never said anything about who vegas will take



- homiedclown


Robin H6
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
How many did TO start last year?
- adambuffalo


7 or 8 but all those rookies are way better than ours
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
You've got a lot of guys out of position here

Ennis hasn't played center in years, has done both Wings
Reinhart has been a RW for the most part, although I'd love if he was back at Center
Larsson is a center
Rodrigues got switched to center last year, but plays wing also
Nylander played RW last year
Bailey was switched to LW

U left off Girgensons, C/W
Also left off Carrier, LW

- jdfitz77


This is assuming Carrier will get nabbed by LV
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
So seems like Vegas is trying their best to get top notch (1st or early second) round picks from teams as part of this expansion draft. In reality, if you have a player you have spent years on (development) and seems to be a NHL player, I would give up my second round pick in a second. It's the first rounder that is hard to give up. Now like Columbus to give up a 1st (24th overall) to take Clarkson and that be the player they "lose" is not that much due to shedding that salary.

I hope the Sabres give up a deal like this:

Sabres get
Dumba (I think he is better than the rest available)

Vegas gets
1st round (8th)
Moulson / Bogosian
(and might have to include a Carrier too)


Vegas wants to build through the draft, well I am willing to help with this deal. Sure a D man at 8th overall could be "better" but could also be worse and also will take a few years to get there. Dumba was 7th overall by the way

(From Last Blog)

- Lilroot9


Clarkson isn't available for the expansion draft. He's on the NHL list of veteran players "exempt."


http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...mpt-from-expansion-draft/
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
GMJB talked about kids being in rochester to develop, come up when they earn a slot


lines right now IMO look more like

Kane-Eichel-Okposo
Ennis-ROR-Reinhart
Folgino-Girgens-Giionta/Larsson
Desluarers-E Rod/Larsson- some scrub

- homiedclown


think we will sign Gionta eh? I'm not convinced of that unless he is willing to do 1-1.5 per 1 or 2 year deal
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
Clarkson isn't available for the expansion draft. He's on the NHL list of veteran players "exempt."


http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...mpt-from-expansion-draft/

- HonkFortheGoose


I think the Clarkson situation will play similarly to the Moulson one. If there's a Moulson one. CBJ bribes Vegas to pick insignificant player, trades them a first round pick and Clarkson for a later pick.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
GMJB talked about kids being in rochester to develop, come up when they earn a slot


lines right now IMO look more like

Kane-Eichel-Okposo
Ennis-ROR-Reinhart
Folgino-Girgens-Giionta/Larsson
Desluarers-E Rod/Larsson- some scrub

- homiedclown



Delauriers will never touch the NHL imo. He can be waived without much detriment to the cap situation

Gionta may come back, although i'd like to see them bring in some new blood. Let him be a scout or something.

Overall, yeah i agree, but i think either Bailey or Baptiste will earn a spot in camp
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
Dumb isn't worth 8. Let's just draft and develop our own guy
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
think we will sign Gionta eh? I'm not convinced of that unless he is willing to do 1-1.5 per 1 or 2 year deal
- lulags


We know Gionta wants to finish his career here. I assume he knows he needs to have modest expectations for a one year contract. He still does his job well when employed correctly. I don't see a reason why he can't come back at 1.5-2 for one year, especially if Moulson isn't here hogging a roster spot.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
You've got a lot of guys out of position here

Ennis hasn't played center in years, has done both Wings
Reinhart has been a RW for the most part, although I'd love if he was back at Center
Larsson is a center
Rodrigues got switched to center last year, but plays wing also
Nylander played RW last year
Bailey was switched to LW

U left off Girgensons, C/W
Also left off Carrier, LW

- jdfitz77


Reinhart should be at center, I agree. The real problem is flexing guys we maybe should not flex. If our top line is ROR, Kane, Okposo that leaves Eichel screwed...again
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
Delauriers will never touch the NHL imo. He can be waived without much detriment to the cap situation

Gionta may come back, although i'd like to see them bring in some new blood. Let him be a scout or something.

Overall, yeah i agree, but i think either Bailey or Baptiste will earn a spot in camp

- jcragcrumple


zero.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
zero.
- TheSabresTaco



Then that seals it. There's no downside to getting a guy who didn't score a goal off your roster
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
think we will sign Gionta eh? I'm not convinced of that unless he is willing to do 1-1.5 per 1 or 2 year deal
- lulags


I read something the other day that basically said that he's most likely not a fit at this point. Re-signing him would push someone else into a spot that they don't really fit in.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzi...ourable-mentions-1.778987 Trade down
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