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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
Talbot was a great trade chip too tho and they didn't get much. Fans perception and actual GM perceptions are way different. Backup goalies are probably the least valuable on a team if you ask a GM. Just because they want someone as a number one, he isn't a number one whenever your trading for him. Basically the team getting the goalie has the other by the balls imo

AND I still don't get what you have against Fast as a player, he may be the best fourth liner in the leauge. And it's AVs fault he puts him on the 3rd line not his. But I agree I don't think Fast goes

- Slimtj100

I think most agree we lost that Talbot trade now and would hope we don't make the same mistake if he isn't selected. I don't think a 2nd and moving up 8 spots (trade with Winn for example) is a crazy proposal?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
The only "trade" of Raanta that would make sense is to Vegas with something else they would want (draft picks?). This would only be done if the Rangers wanted this to happen and if Vegas notified the Rangers of their potential selection. In the end, if Raanta was the player Gorton was hoping to lose, then they'd make the trade to hopefully keep Vegas from changing their minds later and selecting a player the Rangers don't wish to lose.

This "trade" would act as the Vegas selection of a NYR player and thus the Rangers would not lose anyone else on Wednesday.

- mames11

Could so the same with Grabner, because for LV he is a trade chip anyway down the road. So, you can try and say you can take the chance that he repeats 30 goals and get more at mid-year or obtain a chip now and eliminate the down side risk if he struggles.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
just think of how the Black Hawks feel right now.

They traded Raanta to the Rangers for Ryan Haggerty

- jimbo83

And Lindberg from ARI for Ethan Werek
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
Pretty much. Can't wait to see how fat he is after he ate every candy bar around all summer.
- JRR1285

f'n slob he is...
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
I think most agree we lost that Talbot trade now and would hope we don't make the same mistake if he isn't selected. I don't think a 2nd and moving up 8 spots (trade with Winn for example) is a crazy proposal?
- nyrangers9479


I still think it's great to lose Raanta and keep the other 3 guys
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
I still think it's great to lose Raanta and keep the other 3 guys
- jimbo83

My order would be
Fast
Raanta
Grabner
Lindberg
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
Talbot was a great trade chip too tho and they didn't get much. Fans perception and actual GM perceptions are way different. Backup goalies are probably the least valuable on a team if you ask a GM. Just because they want someone as a number one, he isn't a number one whenever your trading for him. Basically the team getting the goalie has the other by the balls imo

AND I still don't get what you have against Fast as a player, he may be the best fourth liner in the leauge. And it's AVs fault he puts him on the 3rd line not his. But I agree I don't think Fast goes

- Slimtj100

Another reason we should welcome a Raanta move to Vegas. Hate to see him go though - well not as much as I hated to see Cam leave...
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think most agree we lost that Talbot trade now and would hope we don't make the same mistake if he isn't selected. I don't think a 2nd and moving up 8 spots (trade with Winn for example) is a crazy proposal?
- nyrangers9479

Everyone in here knew that when the trade happened!
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
Could so the same with Grabner, because for LV he is a trade chip anyway down the road. So, you can try and say you can take the chance that he repeats 30 goals and get more at mid-year or obtain a chip now and eliminate the down side risk if he struggles.
- airjan23



I would prefer to do that and dangle Grabner to Vegas. Why...Sure the Rangers would miss his speed...However, will he duplicate his positive production this upcoming season? Likely...unlikely?

If he does, do you think you can resign him for the under $2M he is currently making on a player that scored 20+ this year for the first time since 11-12?

Sell high...
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
TSN has their expansion rosters out. Take it for what it's worth, Button has Vegas taking Gazdic from NJ.

http://www.tsn.ca/button-...e-golden-knights-1.782983

- smellmyfinger

How does he still have a job?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
How does he still have a job?
- tomburton99


he looks like he is wearing a mask

mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
I still think it's great to lose Raanta and keep the other 3 guys
- jimbo83


How much would you pay for Vegas to stay away from all 4? How much would you pay for Vegas to take your #4 guy on the list (whomever that may be)
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
How much would you pay for Vegas to stay away from all 4? How much would you pay for Vegas to take your #4 guy on the list (whomever that may be)
- mrhattrick27


I don't think anything, I really think the Rangers are better off just taking their lump and lose one of them and move on
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
I think most agree we lost that Talbot trade now and would hope we don't make the same mistake if he isn't selected. I don't think a 2nd and moving up 8 spots (trade with Winn for example) is a crazy proposal?
- nyrangers9479


I would have loved to swindle some team on Talbot but the truth of the matter is the team traded away their back up. Despite how anyone wants to twist it, he is not and was never better then Hank.

Don't forget he spent a lot of time on the bench in Edmonton the first year and is now 29 or 30 and for all intents and purposes, was not very good in the Anaheim series.

This is not the same situation so comparing the two is kind of silly
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
And I am going to bring this up again. Who is exposed that you'd want Vegas to flip to us (not counting the clearly worked out protected guys like the Ducks defenseman).

Dumba for a 1st and a prospect to Vegas?
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
I don't think anything, I really think the Rangers are better off just taking their lump and lose one of them and move on
- jimbo83


Unless the price is low, or, they know they can get a lot for Raanta already (if they knew that, why wouldn't they have just dealt him be deadline?) I agree.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
he looks like he is wearing a mask


- jimbo83

That's not nice.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:22 PM ET
That's not nice.
- tomburton99


his head reminds me of one of the types of mask used in Point Break

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
his head reminds me of one of the types of mask used in Point Break


- jimbo83

Never seen it.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
he looks like he is wearing a mask


- jimbo83


I've always said he looks like a caricature.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
he looks like he is wearing a mask


- jimbo83

Post a pic how you looked with that weird 'mask' on your twitter profile a few weeks ago... Was a great pic
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Never seen it.
- tomburton99


you have a television?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Post a pic how you looked with that weird 'mask' on your twitter profile a few weeks ago... Was a great pic
- 21peter


I saw this guy on CNN (fake news), thought it was Butchie


21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
his head reminds me of one of the types of mask used in Point Break


- jimbo83

Not being an American, I only know 2 of those guys. LBJ and Reagan. Who's the other 2?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Not being an American, I only know 2 of those guys. LBJ and Reagan. Who's the other 2?
- 21peter


you got Jimmy Carter and Mr. Nixon in there
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