I decided to delete my comment. poor horse has been beaten too much.
- storm88

It is summertime . Dead horses are all we have

The Blue Jackets are believed to be giving up their first round pick, No. 24. The Islanders are believed to be giving up a first round pick. The Blackhawks are believed to be giving up Trevor van Riemsdyk. The Ducks are believed to be giving up a big package. The Ducks don’t have a first round pick but do have some young defensemen.

The Golden Knights could have other deals in the works as teams like the Senators, Rangers, Wild, Predators and Panthers may have players they don’t want to lose.
- NorthNuck

Sbisa

Sbisa
- VANTEL

Gonna keep hoping he is gone until I hear them call Gaunces name

Gonna keep hoping he is gone until I hear them call Gaunces name
- NorthNuck

I don't see them taking any .

A few teams like Edmonton NJ Tor Vancouver Buf Det Col has a sh1t list . Vegas would be better served to trades and UFA signings like Russell from Edm UFA

Gonna keep hoping he is gone until I hear them call Gaunces name
- NorthNuck

I hope we keep Sbisa. Tree is gone, we need the depth back there. Also, he's a pending UFA and an asset at the deadline. After that, who knows who they take? Gaunce hasn't proven anything. Hasn't scored either. I think his 1st goal went off his skate a few years ago.

Maybe Vegas takes a Chaput? Speaking of which, my morning coffee is kicking in. I'll see u guys later....

People seem to be missing the point. There seems to be a 50/50 split on feeling towards JB.

GMs do not sign a year to year contract for themselves. They usually sign a 3-4 year contract. Bennings contract runs out this year and I don't see Aquillini hiring him for another 3-4 year term. Too much negativity flowing his way from media and fans. I don't see Canucks signing on for four more years sorry.
- VANTEL

Oh I get it...and I'm not sure Benning will be re-signed. But the expectations around here are a tad on the ridiculous side. Many here said it would take 5-10 years to clean up the mess Gillis left Benning and that's pretty much exactly what's happening.

Gonna keep hoping he is gone until I hear them call Gaunces name
- NorthNuck

I could care less what scrap is taken from Vancouver's garbage list.
I care about the entry draft and trading Tanev and putting this 'rebuild' into full swing.

I know everyone is throwing out Makar's name but I would go Glass and Pettersson and sign a UFA Franson or Russell as a stop gap , then go after D next year.

A succession plan of Bo Glass and Pettersson with Sutter as insurance .
- VANTEL

def a lot of different ways to go with the draft. I like the idea of makar because he can be a franchise D, the type that can make a huge difference in a team. They dont come often.

I could care less what scrap is taken from Vancouver's garbage list.
I care about the entry draft and trading Tanev and putting this 'rebuild' into full swing.
- Marwood

Amen

I could care less what scrap is taken from Vancouver's garbage list.
I care about the entry draft and trading Tanev and putting this 'rebuild' into full swing.
- Marwood

For sure in the grand scheme expansion doesn't really affect us much at all other than that we will have a new team in our div next year. It is nice to have other news to keep entertained until the draft though

I hope we keep Sbisa. Tree is gone, we need the depth back there. Also, he's a pending UFA and an asset at the deadline. After that, who knows who they take? Gaunce hasn't proven anything. Hasn't scored either. I think his 1st goal went off his skate a few years ago.

Maybe Vegas takes a Chaput? Speaking of which, my morning coffee is kicking in. I'll see u guys later....



- storm88

yes me too. But did look at the D available and think maybe sbisa wouldnt even be considered. But we dont know which are protected by trade agreement yet either so its still possible.
Im hoping they take gaunce, but if your LV why would you? Unless they need a 4 defensive C

For sure in the grand scheme expansion doesn't really affect us much at all other than that we will have a new team in our div next year. It is nice to have other news to keep entertained until the draft though
- NorthNuck

Oh I get it...and I'm not sure Benning will be re-signed. But the expectations around here are a tad on the ridiculous side. Many here said it would take 5-10 years to clean up the mess Gillis left Benning and that's pretty much exactly what's happening.
- LordHumungous

A team that should have been rebuilding 3 years ago have only traded two expiring contracts.

Spending to the cap when a team is ending bottom three is poor management. No it is not my money but having cap space to acquire assets is important.

Draft selections and development come as an issue. Too early to make a call on OJ but I would have went Sergachev or Tkachuk. The whole arena went WTF when OJ was announced, but like I said too early to call on that one.

def a lot of different ways to go with the draft. I like the idea of makar because he can be a franchise D, the type that can make a huge difference in a team. They dont come often.
- SMBDragon

Carol pointed out something yesterday. If this is a deep draft why are so many GMs willing to part with their first round picks?

There could be a bunch of Fools Gold out there. I am not sold on Makar that is why I say go with the safe pick . We don't have enough top asstes to take chances

Who ever called the 1040 poll question today was absolutely spot on. Today's question:
"Who will win a Stanley Cup first, Vancouver or Vegas?"

Those ass monkeys are so predictable.

Who ever called the 1040 poll question today was absolutely spot on. Today's question:
"Who will win a Stanley Cup first, Vancouver or Vegas?"

Those ass monkeys are so predictable.
- Marwood

A team that should have been rebuilding 3 years ago have only traded two expiring contracts.

Spending to the cap when a team is ending bottom three is poor management. No it is not my money but having cap space to acquire assets is important.

Draft selections and development come as an issue. Too early to make a call on OJ but I would have went Sergachev or Tkachuk. The whole arena went WTF when OJ was announced, but like I said too early to call on that one.
- VANTEL

The JV pick seems to have put a lot over the edge here...but it's still too soon. Oilers were gonna take OJ before CLB screwed up the draft last year so OJ was going high anyways. Great pick IMO.
I'd like to go on what we have 'should have' done as well but making the PO's in WD's first year put a wrench into the rebuild no matter how we slice it. Plus interference by ownership.

Kesler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Burrows, Hansen and a few others have taken priority over some of the other actions Benning needed to be looking at.

I'd be more than happy with another top ten pick. I don't like waiting until next years TDL because it put the prospect (if you acquire a draft pick) one year behind what this years kid will be.
- LeftCoaster

Patience big guy. We knew 3 years ago that this was a mess and was going to take some time.

I have been a believer that any GM gets 5 years to see the fruits of his Labour. Benning had a slow start, I would give him a 2 year extension , 6 years to fix this mess( or show good signs of) he inherited.

Oh I get it...and I'm not sure Benning will be re-signed. But the expectations around here are a tad on the ridiculous side. Many here said it would take 5-10 years to clean up the mess Gillis left Benning and that's pretty much exactly what's happening.
- LordHumungous

People's expectations were set by this mgmt's teams stated expectations of "retooling on the fly". I think most people knew it was a dumb idea that wouldn't accomplish much and lo and behold we are 4 years later, with the best players on the team still coming from the previous regime.

It was time for Gillis to go and he deserves criticism for many of his decisions but the suggestion that there was a massive mess to clean up or that it would take 5-10 years to clean up is asinine.

The JV pick seems to have put a lot over the edge here...but it's still too soon. Oilers were gonna take OJ before CLB screwed up the draft last year so OJ was going high anyways. Great pick IMO.
I'd like to go on what we have 'should have' done as well but making the PO's in WD's first year put a wrench into the rebuild no matter how we slice it. Plus interference by ownership.

Kesler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Burrows, Hansen and a few others have taken priority over some of the other actions Benning needed to be looking at.
- LordHumungous

JV did put a bad taste in mouths , no doubt. As I said many times I wanted to take JV. I don't hold Benning responsible for the pick but hold him accountable for Development.

OJ we all agree wait and see.

Kesler had to be traded and Jim had his nuts in a vice because Kesler is a d1ckhead. No blame to Jim

Hamhuis and Vrbata sorry unforgivable for not being moved earlier . Same as Tanev this year if not moved. IMO.

Bieksa give Jim a pat on the back.

Hansen and Burrows finally many kudos

The JV pick seems to have put a lot over the edge here...but it's still too soon. Oilers were gonna take OJ before CLB screwed up the draft last year so OJ was going high anyways. Great pick IMO.
I'd like to go on what we have 'should have' done as well but making the PO's in WD's first year put a wrench into the rebuild no matter how we slice it. Plus interference by ownership.

Kesler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Burrows, Hansen and a few others have taken priority over some of the other actions Benning needed to be looking at.
- LordHumungous

Oilers are probably one of the few teams with a worse drafting record than the Canucks in the past 15 years but because they are rumored to of been interested in him, us selecting him at 5 was a good decision?

I don't see them taking any .

A few teams like Edmonton NJ Tor Vancouver Buf Det Col has a sh1t list . Vegas would be better served to trades and UFA signings like Russell from Edm UFA
- VANTEL

I see it going down a few way for VAN:

1) they select a prospect-type they feel will pass through waivers and be near the top of the call up list - ie Gaunce/Boucher/Pedan

2) They find out which available player on VAN's list other teams want and swing a deal that way. - ie selecting Sbisa/Dorsett, eating 25%-50% of his cap hit and moving him for a mid-round pick

3) they target Miller on a 1-2 year backup/mentor role (though seems unlikely now with Fleury, but offers for the Flower could change things)

Benning just better not offer up anything to sway Vegas to a certain player, there is nothing worth saving on their list

Carol pointed out something yesterday. If this is a deep draft why are so many GMs willing to part with their first round picks?

There could be a bunch of Fools Gold out there. I am not sold on Makar that is why I say go with the safe pick . We don't have enough top asstes to take chances
- VANTEL

I like your mention of fools gold. Usually with most draftees I think "will he /can he do all that in the nhl" which is several steps up from the leagues they are currently in. There isnt really much of a sure thing really.

Glass many of us feel is a safer pick for C and I'd have to agree, along with nico and nolan (if truly healthy). Liljegren, makar, hague and heiskanen are all "safe looking" picks for D. When I look at Makars scouting reports, they all seem to indicate the same things, including that he has something special in his game that is unusual. They also seem to indicate he's destined for NHL as well. I think this is a player you take that leap of faith on.

Yes petersson has great skills but is very very thin, thin enough to be concerning. Perhaps a look at several family members builds would be what is needed to confirm or relieve those concerns

Patience big guy. We knew 3 years ago that this was a mess and was going to take some time.

I have been a believer that any GM gets 5 years to see the fruits of his Labour. Benning had a slow start, I would give him a 2 year extension , 6 years to fix this mess( or show good signs of) he inherited.
- Reubenkincade

When people talk about Benning he is described as a nice guy , honest to a fault , open . I would like him as a friend but I don't know I would keep him as a GM.

Seeing his name at the bottom of lists as best GMs , and hearing about him making bad trades (their opinions ) does not sit well .

His personality blends in with soft Trevor and the mild manner Sedins Tanev Edler , but is this what you want from your team? The old expresion Nice Guys Finish Last is certainly coming into play here.

I want to wash my hands from the old Gillis era and move onto a new era and unfortunately to me Benning is caught in the old era poopstorm

I see it going down a few way for VAN:

1) they select a prospect-type they feel will pass through waivers and be near the top of the call up list - ie Gaunce/Boucher/Pedan

2) They find out which available player on VAN's list other teams want and swing a deal that way. - ie selecting Sbisa/Dorsett, eating 25%-50% of his cap hit and moving him for a mid-round pick

3) they target Miller on a 1-2 year backup/mentor role (though seems unlikely now with Fleury, but offers for the Flower could change things)

Benning just better not offer up anything to sway Vegas to a certain player, there is nothing worth saving on their list
- WhiteLie

All very possible