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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM ET


The funny part is, I know you're serious, which makes it all that much more enjoyable for me knowing I annoy the crap outta you lol.

- LeftCoaster

No you are wrong, I actually enjoy your posting. You are all over the map, but I agree with some of your opinions and go what the F on some.

I personally try to keep a level thought process and I also try to be realistic in my assessment of Canucks players, and we have that in common. Except I will not use hindsight to change my opinions on JB or players who were selected.


Edit: I will also post something contradicting just because of the drama here with the going flavour of the day.

JB.....B+
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 8:06 PM ET
I think so too, him and Horvat looked really good together.


whats the over/under on Jake Virtanen??

- Crazybagoham



If 12mins/game i say 14 goals
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:08 PM ET
Some of the moves I have really liked from JB are Goldobin Dahlen Boeser Gaudette Tryamkin Granlund Sutter Demko and Gudbrandson.

I am excited to see how that turns out down the road
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 8:11 PM ET
Development is an organizational plan, do I think Benning as the GM is responsible for the outcome of the organizations prospects, you're God damned right I do.

I know someone in the Wings organization and Ken Holland is responsible for how Detroit develops their prospects, people within the organization follow it to a T!

- LeftCoaster


Thats right. Coaches boss is his GM & anyone thinking otherwise is a fool.
Very few coaches get full control & thats a fact.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 8:12 PM ET
so tanev to dallas for 3oa to take Makar with
5oa to habs for galchenyuk

Promote Pedan to see regular duty

- SMBDragon

Good lord no!!!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 8:12 PM ET
No you are wrong, I actually enjoy your posting. You are all over the map, but I agree with some of your opinions and go what the F on some.

I personally try to keep a level thought process and I also try to be realistic in my assessment of Canucks players, and we have that in common. Except I will not use hindsight to change my opinions on JB or players who were selected.

- Makita

I don't like calling it hindsight, you're judged on your successes and failures both professionally and personally. If you can't judge Benning on his past what are people basing their opinion of him on?

For the record, I was never a fan, and I've said so many many many times on here

Edit: D-
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
Thats right. Coaches boss is his GM & anyone thinking otherwise is a fool.
Very few coaches get full control & thats a fact.

- Nighthawk


Willie had full control. Unless Megna being on the top unit PP for the entire season was a management decision?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
If 12mins/game i say 14 goals
- Nighthawk


give me the under please. or did u mean games?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:16 PM ET
give me the under please.
- storm88


10 goals in Utica?

like last season
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:16 PM ET
Willie had full control. Unless Megna being on the top unit PP for the entire season was a management decision?
- Crazybagoham



And Willie was let go and still without a new job for those exact reasons
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
I don't like calling it hindsight, you're judged on your successes and failures both professionally and personally. If you can't judge Benning on his past what are people basing their opinion of him on?

For the record, I was never a fan, and I've said so many many many times on here

Edit: D-

- LeftCoaster

Before the Tryamkin fiasco you would have given a B and next week if could be an F or C+
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
And Willie was let go and still without a new job for those exact reasons
- VANTEL


yesss, but obviously JB allows his coach control over those types of decisions?

#notalljimsfault
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
I've heard about 10 different GMs on the radio in the middle of the season ,middle of the weekday ( I remember Holland being on Tim and Sid) and they will say yaaa I checked for trades like 2 weeks ago but its been pretty quiet, so I try to make it to games. And they never sound rushed for time.

Sounds like a full schedule

A gm will make a callup, some trade calls, but if everything is running smoothly, they won't be busy

- Crazybagoham

You're right. GM's do diddly-squat but make a couple of half-assed phone calls about trades and have some beers with some scouts to toss some names around for the draft that is happening whenever. Simple.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
You're right. GM's do diddly-squat but make a couple of half-assed phone calls about trades and have some beers with some scouts to toss some names around for the draft that is happening whenever. Simple.
- Marwood



Well, has Jim Benning's (supposed) hard work paid off yet?

Maybe he should run like that, why do you think Holland hasn't been fired in 25 years? He allows people to do their jobs, and kicks back and takes the heat.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
I don't know what you are trying to convince me about ? Do you think thowing out some opinions is going to make me change my mind?

He should have started a rebuild three years ago and he hasn't yet begun . He gets a C- from me.

- VANTEL


You're judging him with a set of parameters that he was not working with, so it is bound to disappoint you.

If you view it given what he had to work with, you might see it different.

that's all .

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
yesss, but obviously JB allows his coach control over those types of decisions?

#notalljimsfault

- Crazybagoham



If JB did allow him to do that Willie would still be part of the club.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
I give you a CanuckDon guarantee that Boeser scores 20 this year
- CanuckDon

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
And Willie was let go and still without a new job for those exact reasons
- VANTEL


Only proving WD thought he had control but wrongo.
Egocentric & screwed himself.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
Well, has Jim Benning's (supposed) hard work paid off yet?

Maybe he should run like that, why do you think Holland hasn't been fired in 25 years? He allows people to do their jobs, and kicks back and takes the heat.

- Crazybagoham

He's 112 days into the rebuild.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
You're judging him with a set of parameters that he was not working with, so it is bound to disappoint you.

If you view it given what he had to work with, you might see it different.

that's all .

- dbot



I've seen it from all sides. I know some here think I have an issue with JB. I absolutely don't. I think his contract is up ,time to find an upgrade. He did good and screwed up some things.

As I said it is only my opinion but I think the only way he keeps his job is by winning a blockbuster.


Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
I've seen it from all sides. I know some here think I have an issue with JB. I absolutely don't. I think his contract is up ,time to find an upgrade. He did good and screwed up some things.

As I said it is only my opinion but I think the only way he keeps his job is by winning a blockbuster.

- VANTEL



I agree with you there. I think the organization stinks top to bottom, and its not JB making most of the decisions. We need a GM that can actually make a trade, though. JB is too hesitant to be useful to us anymore. Plus every GM knows they can outtalk him, and knows exactly what he wants. He doesn't know how to play the game.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
Before the Tryamkin fiasco you would have given a B and next week if could be an F or C+
- CanuckDon

Not true at all if you look back two years. His first draft I was excited, however, he lost me during his first year.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 8:29 PM ET
I've seen it from all sides. I know some here think I have an issue with JB. I absolutely don't. I think his contract is up ,time to find an upgrade. He did good and screwed up some things.

As I said it is only my opinion but I think the only way he keeps his job is by winning a blockbuster.

- VANTEL


I don't think anyone outside of JB's family would care if he was let go and an upgrade was brought in.
I just think it's unfair to judge him on the number of draft picks playing full nhl seasons when he's publicly stated that his first goal was to shore up the young nhl players and then he'd focus more on developing draft picks (which usually means letting em develop in the minors).
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
I've seen it from all sides. I know some here think I have an issue with JB. I absolutely don't. I think his contract is up ,time to find an upgrade. He did good and screwed up some things.

As I said it is only my opinion but I think the only way he keeps his job is by winning a blockbuster.

- VANTEL


My take is once again this season will decide his fate.
The roster turnover & NMC's & NTC's ftom the GM regime r nearly gone.
5yrs is a fair time but in our case it had mitigating problems.
With TG coaching we will see a different team on the ice & i think a better systems approach with the kids getting more breathng room. TG will hold all accountable but yet not as rigid as WD. A new refreshing approach will come IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
I don't think anyone outside of JB's family would care if he was let go and an upgrade was brought in.
I just think it's unfair to judge him on the number of draft picks playing full nhl seasons when he's publicly stated that his first goal was to shore up the young nhl players and then he'd focus more on developing draft picks (which usually means letting em develop in the minors).

- dbot



I don't blame him for drafting JV I was hoping he drafted JV . I do blame the organization for not following up on their million dollar investment and not calling him into the office and ask him why he turning into the town drunk and McDonalds favorite golden boy. I do blame Canucks for the Tryamkin fiasco. Make him feel part of the club and feel at home. He had more upside than any Canuck prospect in the last decade .
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