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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:08 PM ET
Unless McPhee sees what Jimbo does in Sbisa, I think it's Gaunce.
- Nucker101

Sbisa is a better player than Gaunce, they'll take Sbisa.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
He's three years younger.
- LeftCoaster

Thanks for stealing my thunder
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
Sbisa is a better player than Gaunce, they'll take Sbisa.
- LeftCoaster



I say they will trade instead.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:10 PM ET
Thanks for stealing my thunder
- VANTEL

I'm sorry....I just want you to be right for once
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:11 PM ET
Sbisa is a better player than Gaunce, they'll take Sbisa.
- LeftCoaster


Yeah Sbisa is the guy, if not I can see them grabbing a depth forward like Chaput to play 4c. I can't see them being interested in Gaunce, literally no offensive upside.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:11 PM ET
Sbisa is a better player than Gaunce, they'll take Sbisa.
- LeftCoaster

It's not that black and white.

Sbisa costs almost 3M more. Vegas has plenty of quality D(giggity) to choose from
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yeah Sbisa is the guy, if not I can see them grabbing a depth forward like Chaput to play 4c. I can't see them being interested in Gaunce, literally no offensive upside.
- Crazybagoham

The guy is a waste of a water bottle
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
The guy is a waste of a water bottle
- LeftCoaster


Draft him, make him change in his car outside the rink
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
It's not that black and white.

Sbisa costs almost 3M more. Vegas has plenty of quality D(giggity) to choose from

- Nucker101

He has more value in a trade than Gaunce if they flip him.
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
I know that Vegas is not going to get low picks out of all the wheeling and dealing. Perhaps getting a top 5 for Tanev is wishful thinking and an alternative might be to scoop a few picks for Tanev from them as he doesnt have the modified NTC yet and would help settle down a new Vegas D squad ?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
Vegas "D" will be twice as good as the Canucks (potentially)
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
It's not that black and white.

Sbisa costs almost 3M more. Vegas has plenty of quality D(giggity) to choose from

- Nucker101


They will have to reach the cap floor, and will need NHL roster players (they will have a lot of AHL guys) I think they will take Sbisa, not too old and can increase his value for a flip
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
I know that Vegas is not going to get low picks out of all the wheeling and dealing. Perhaps getting a top 5 for Tanev is wishful thinking and an alternative might be to scoop a few picks for Tanev from them as he doesnt have the modified NTC yet and would help settle down a new Vegas D squad ?
- Tigersmyle


I'd trade tanev for the 6oa and the rights to one of the young islanders forwards
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm sorry....I just want you to be right for once
- LeftCoaster

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
I'd trade tanev for the 6oa and the rights to one of the young islanders forwards
- Crazybagoham



Do you think they will trade their first pick ever?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:19 PM ET
Do you think they will trade their first pick ever?
- VANTEL


they have a TON of leeway in terms of wacky trades, its only the #6 so I doubt they are that attached if it gets them a core player. I could see them trading the pick, depending on the deal ( I really don't see them trading the pick for Tanev though :lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:19 PM ET
It's not that black and white.

Sbisa costs almost 3M more. Vegas has plenty of quality D(giggity) to choose from

- Nucker101



Exactly
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
they have a TON of leeway in terms of wacky trades, its only the #6 so I doubt they are that attached if it gets them a core player. I could see them trading the pick, depending on the deal ( I really don't see them trading the pick for Tanev though :lol
- Crazybagoham



They may trade one of their first but not the 6 OA
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
That awkward moment when you realize that Vegas will probably have a better NHL team and Farm team come post Draft day.. Vegas is essentially thr Mob of the NHL right now.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
I know it's hard without knowing the back deals, but do a mock expansion draft and you'll see how many dmen that are better than Sbisa are available and how many that are just as good(but cheaper) are available.

The cap floor argument is silly, why would McPhee take on bad deals for free? He can trade with a team in cap hell and get back a pick/prospect.

Sbisa has barely any value, how often do expensive bottom pairing dmen get traded right before free agency?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
I know it's hard without knowing the back deals, but do a mock expansion draft and you'll see how many dmen that are better than Sbisa are available and how many that are just as good(but cheaper) are available.

The cap floor argument is silly, why would McPhee take on bad deals for free? He can trade with a team in cap hell and get back a pick/prospect.

Sbisa has barely any value, how often do expensive bottom pairing dmen get traded right before free agency?

- Nucker101


Gudbranson
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
I know it's hard without knowing the back deals, but do a mock expansion draft and you'll see how many dmen that are better than Sbisa are available and how many that are just as good(but cheaper) are available.

The cap floor argument is silly, why would McPhee take on bad deals for free? He can trade with a team in cap hell and get back a pick/prospect.

Sbisa has barely any value, how often do expensive bottom pairing dmen get traded right before free agency?

- Nucker101



Yup
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
I know it's hard without knowing the back deals, but do a mock expansion draft and you'll see how many dmen that are better than Sbisa are available and how many that are just as good(but cheaper) are available.

The cap floor argument is silly, why would McPhee take on bad deals for free? He can trade with a team in cap hell and get back a pick/prospect.

Sbisa has barely any value, how often do expensive bottom pairing dmen get traded right before free agency?

- Nucker101


people talk about sbisas contract like its a 10x10 deal.... its like 3m a year? he was one of our better d men last year and he's only 27. There are plenty of worse d men out there on worst contracts. You could get a 2nd or a 3rd out of sbisa at a deadline, just because of the way he plays.

I don't buy all the Sbisa hate, personally. I think he's okay.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:26 PM ET
people talk about sbisas contract like its a 10x10 deal.... its like 3m a year? he was one of our better d men last year and he's only 27. There are plenty of worse d men out there on worst contracts. You could get a 2nd or a 3rd out of sbisa at a deadline, just because of the way he plays.

I don't buy all the Sbisa hate, personally. I think he's okay.

- Crazybagoham



It adds no value to Vegas they would be better off taking Pedan


There is no Sbisa hate . He is a 3 mil bottom pairing Dman on one of the worst teams in the NHL. No hate but no love either
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
people talk about sbisas contract like its a 10x10 deal.... its like 3m a year? he was one of our better d men last year and he's only 27. There are plenty of worse d men out there on worst contracts. You could get a 2nd or a 3rd out of sbisa at a deadline, just because of the way he plays.

I don't buy all the Sbisa hate, personally. I think he's okay.

- Crazybagoham


His contract is not back breaking, but you're not understanding McPhee's options. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong here, but from Vegas' perspective it doesn't make much sense to draft him.
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