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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:53 PM ET
Pass, He's 33 going on 34 and isnt shutting guys down like he used to
- Sabresfan-365


But he's like really good in NHL 16.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:53 PM ET
so how disappointed will everyone be when after 3pm none of the rumoured available D-men are on the sabres?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:53 PM ET
does say a lot about his value. gunna go out on a limb and say kane for brodin wont happen lol
- Sabresfan-365


About whose value? Kane's?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:54 PM ET
About whose value? Kane's?
- Wetbandit1



oui
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:54 PM ET
so how disappointed will everyone be when after 3pm none of the rumoured available D-men are on the sabres?
- Sabresfan-365


Meh, I don't think we're going to get the moves we think we will period. I think we've seen the big deal and we'll see 2nd or 3rd round picks so Vegas won't take so and so.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
Why? ROR is Mr. Hockey - Kyle Okposo is Mr. Hockey

Evander Kane peaked when we needed him to the most -

Brayden McNabb may go to Vegas -

Lehner was a miss - but Tyler Myers will most likely never play again, Drew Stafford is washed up, Brendan Lemieux? Where is he? Joel Armia? Winnipeg is STACKED and couldn't make the playoffs.

Bogosian is a miss - no doubt - but he at least has time to recover and is expected to play big minutes, and if he does recover, the contract wont be as bad in a few years.

- -JCDC-


Tread Softly, speaking logic in here is highly discouraged and will require much shame upon you if this profanity continues. Strangely, Pach seems to follow this logic which is truly refreshing and professional, Pach is Legit and On Point. Quality over Quantity ALL DAY!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
Meh, I don't think we're going to get the moves we think we will period. I think we've seen the big deal and we'll see 2nd or 3rd round picks so Vegas won't take so and so.
- Wetbandit1


it sounds like vatanen, hamonic and brodin are on the move though. i figure theyd need to be for expansion reasons.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:56 PM ET
oui
- Sabresfan-365


It's tough, because I'm sure he's got 31 different values depending on which team you're talking about. But in general before last year I'd say he was worth a Larsson. But now? Who the (frank) knows?
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:56 PM ET
About whose value? Kane's?
- Wetbandit1


He's worth a Top 4 d dman or top 6 forward and a prospect or #1 pick.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
it sounds like vatanen, hamonic and brodin are on the move though. i figure theyd need to be for expansion reasons.
- Sabresfan-365


I'm not saying they all don't move, but I would be surprised if they all did. There are just too many variables, it could end up like the deadline with an unnamed GM not getting even a 7th round pick because they're either holding out for more, or for future purposes don't want to set a precedent that they're able to be worked over.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 8:59 PM ET
He's worth a Top 4 d dman or top 6 forward and a prospect or #1 pick.
- mattsox


Based on his skills I'd agree, but with him we're not just talking about his skills.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:59 PM ET
He's worth a Top 4 d dman or top 6 forward and a prospect or #1 pick.
- mattsox



yes thats why the offer today was jay bouwmeester.


Edit: you're going to be really mad at JB when the return for kane is like half of this arent you?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
I'm not saying they all don't move, but I would be surprised if they all did. There are just too many variables, it could end up like the deadline with an unnamed GM not getting even a 7th round pick because they're either holding out for more, or for future purposes don't want to set a precedent that they're able to be worked over.
- Wetbandit1



itd be hard for me to imagine them not all moving. we're not talking about ufa's being traded for 5th round picks we're talking about legit players under contract.

Vatanen and Brodin especially.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
Idk if it's legit, but here it is...

https://rumorbreaks.wordp...mor-update-trade-edition/

- jdfitz77

If only we could get the Ghost. Nobody is talking about it because I don't think there are any Expansion Draft casualties, but Flyers are loaded with young Defencemen. Heard they're bringing up the young bucks Hagg and Morin. Sanheim possibly too. Lehner, Kane and Guhle for the Ghost. Let's get this party started.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:11 PM ET
I honestly have no idea bro she got out of her car and just jumped in and I was watching lol


I'm guessing it's a drug drop

- GERBE!!!75PTS


The real question is what were YOU doing there? Narc.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:12 PM ET
So do the Sabres trade Lehner/Kane tomorrow by 3 pm tomorrow? If they do and they are older then they have to protect them, if they trade Lehner then that other team has to be committed to him and protect him. It gets complicated.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:13 PM ET
So do the Sabres trade Lehner/Kane tomorrow by 3 pm tomorrow? If they do and they are older then they have to protect them, if they trade Lehner then that other team has to be committed to him and protect him. It gets complicated.
- GilPerreault11



i think both will be here
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:13 PM ET
If only we could get the Ghost. Nobody is talking about it because I don't think there are any Expansion Draft casualties, but Flyers are loaded with young Defencemen. Heard they're bringing up the young bucks Hagg and Morin. Sanheim possibly too. Lehner, Kane and Guhle for the Ghost. Let's get this party started.
- Hatboro_Swords


No (frank)ing way.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
so how disappointed will everyone be when after 3pm none of the rumoured available D-men are on the sabres?
- Sabresfan-365


Always disappointed, year after year after year... why should this be such a surprise or disappointment to any Sabre fan ?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
i think both will be here
- Sabresfan-365


Rob Ray said he thinks it will be after July 1st for Kane. They want to talk contract first.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Rob Ray said he thinks it will be after July 1st for Kane. They want to talk contract first.
- Wetbandit1

I never heard the sabres shopping kane
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Always disappointed, year after year after year... why should this be such a surprise or disappointment to any Sabre fan ?
- 22sabresQ



its always a surprise thanks to some really bad expectation management
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
Rob Ray said he thinks it will be after July 1st for Kane. They want to talk contract first.
- Wetbandit1


i hope they just wait for enough value and then ship him off.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
Rob Ray said he thinks it will be after July 1st for Kane. They want to talk contract first.
- Wetbandit1


Good and they should because the cupboard will be bare at left wing when he is gone.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
I never heard the sabres shopping kane
- homiedclown


I don't think he was really citing any source, just what he "thinks". But it sounded like he had some info. Make of that what you will...
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