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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
BuffaloHardHat
- sbroads24


Not me.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
Pittsburgh has a dilemma with what defensemen to protect

Letang, Matta, & then either Schultz or Dumoulin
I'd really like Dumoulin here

I wonder what Pitt will do?

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
Pittsburgh has a dilemma with what defensemen to protect

Letang, Matta, & then either Schultz or Dumoulin
I'd really like Dumoulin here

I wonder what Pitt will do?

- jdfitz77



schultz is in line for a pretty good raise so maybe he gets moved?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
He is though.

He's just not the goal scorer Kane is.

I'd take Kane 100 out of 100 times, but the drop off isn't as significant as you think.

Versteeg is a career .56 PPG player
Kane is a career .60 PPG player.

That's not much of a difference.

It's not like I want Versteeg to be a top line player here for 5 years.

He's a depth guy

- sbroads24




Again, tilting numbers to fit a narrative
Now do the goals per game & compare

Versteeg blows
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
Pittsburgh has a dilemma with what defensemen to protect

Letang, Matta, & then either Schultz or Dumoulin
I'd really like Dumoulin here

I wonder what Pitt will do?

- jdfitz77



Well they won without Letang and could save some cash there...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
schultz is in line for a pretty good raise so maybe he gets moved?
- Sabresfan-365

Yes please
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:33 PM ET
schultz is in line for a pretty good raise so maybe he gets moved?
- Sabresfan-365



U could be right there

I just like Dumoulin in the defensive zone much better
He'd be a good pair for Risto I think
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:33 PM ET
Well they won without Letang and could save some cash there...
- jcragcrumple



Sure...
but can they trade him?
He's hurt more than Bogosian
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
Yes please
- sbroads24



U prefer him to Dumoulin?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
Sure...
but can they trade him?
He's hurt more than Bogosian

- jdfitz77


No idea. Frankly I'm amazed that a who had a stroke was allowed to come back at all
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
Again, tilting numbers to fit a narrative
Now do the goals per game & compare

Versteeg blows

- jdfitz77

Wouldn't just using this fit your narrative?

I'm using overall production over there career.

They have both produced like 2nd liners over their career.

One is a goal scorer, one isn't
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 16 @ 5:41 PM ET
Alexander Sultzer
- jcragcrumple


Or if you Mike Schoop.

Alex Zulzer.

I F(*&^ hate him for that.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
Or if you Mike Schoop.

Alex Zulzer.

I F(*&^ hate him for that.

- ImThatGuy


I texted this to a buddy today, may as well repost:

WGR personalities ranking because I'm on my lunch break:

1.) Howard Simon
2.) Bulldog
3.) Paul Hamilton
4.) Brian Koziel
5.) Jeremy White
6.) Schopp and Bulldogs producer with the horrible buffalo accent
7.) The emergency broadcast test sound
8.) Mike Schopp
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
U could be right there

I just like Dumoulin in the defensive zone much better
He'd be a good pair for Risto I think

- jdfitz77


same but price on him will be too high i think
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
Wouldn't just using this fit your narrative?

I'm using overall production over there career.

They have both produced like 2nd liners over their career.

One is a goal scorer, one isn't

- sbroads24



They're different players,
so the best way is to compare what defines their productivity the best

The best way u can describe Versteeg is by his point total...
which is mediocre

The best way u can describe Kane, is as a goal scorer...
which is FAR above mediocre
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
What's this?
- chilliard77


I honestly have no idea bro she got out of her car and just jumped in and I was watching lol


I'm guessing it's a drug drop
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
Pittsburgh has a dilemma with what defensemen to protect

Letang, Matta, & then either Schultz or Dumoulin
I'd really like Dumoulin here

I wonder what Pitt will do?

- jdfitz77




Nothing? Vegas is taking Murray.

Edit: Fluery
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Nothing? Vegas is taking Murray.
- Lilroot9


No lol
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
They're different players,
so the best way is to compare what defines their productivity the best

The best way u can describe Versteeg is by his point total...
which is mediocre

The best way u can describe Kane, is as a goal scorer...
which is FAR above mediocre

- jdfitz77

Why is that the best way?

Seems like cherry picking.

You think Versteeg sucks. No sense in debating it.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 5:58 PM ET
I honestly have no idea bro she got out of her car and just jumped in and I was watching lol


I'm guessing it's a drug drop

- GERBE!!!75PTS

I'm about to drop $1,900
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 6:03 PM ET
Why is that the best way?

Seems like cherry picking.

You think Versteeg sucks. No sense in debating it.

- sbroads24


Just playing devil's advocate...Goal scoring ability is more valuable than playmaking ability in this league. Didn't back read to hear the whole debate, but it seems as though some comparison is being drawn...not sure those two can be juxtaposed because Kane scores at such a higher rate.

As an example, would you rather have:
10g 30a - 40pts
30g 10a - 40pts

I think most will say the latter.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 6:07 PM ET
Why is that the best way?

Seems like cherry picking.

You think Versteeg sucks. No sense in debating it.

- sbroads24



That's not cherry picking
If I were to compare Versteeg's goals to Kane's,
That's cherry picking
Same way it is to compare points vs points

The best way to compare any player is by what they do best
For Versteeg, its points... which is mediocre

Your argument holds true that Kane's point totals are mediocre
However, he is a GOOD (at least) goal scorer

Versteeg can't be considered GOOD in any respect
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 16 @ 6:09 PM ET
No lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I meant Fluery. Sorry
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 6:10 PM ET
Nothing? Vegas is taking Murray.
- Lilroot9




Are they though?
Or is it just assumed?

Just bc Fleury is willing to waive for Vegas doesn't mean they want him

McPhee could want Grubauer to be his starting goalie
Then he could take a defenseman from Pitt
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 16 @ 6:11 PM ET
habs need centers


big time


reinhart, borgen, gorges, fasching, second rd pick (wild) for

pacioretty and gallagher

- homiedclown


I would do that move so fast. But no way in hell Montreal goes for it. Basically we'd get a better Reinhart in Pacioretty and Gallagher a little poop who can score(Marchand lite in both senses he won't score as much, but he won't try and remove a guy's testicles with his stick either). For Reinhart, and a bunch of nobodies. Done done done.
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