Garrioch reporting Sens will protect Ceci

If they protect Ceci over Methot or even Claesson, they are phucking idiots.

Garrioch reporting Sens will protect Ceci
- JACMAN

Fair point however I don't think Ceci even had a strong season. His 2015-16 season was considered his best and it was beyond average. He had worse metrics, just produced a few more goals. That "good season" of his, he still had terrible shot generation and shot suppression.

In every season Ceci has had, I have yet to really see one that was wow there are some great underlying numbers here. He scored 10 goals, thats about it

Im not saying that he is useless (well I did but that was to be a Richard to AlfiesSalad) but hes just average...there are lots of guys like him. Ryan Murray, Olli Maatta, Nathan Beaulieu...they are decent young defenders however they probably are as good as they ever will be, they are easy to trade for and sign as a UFA but bc these guys were drafted at a high draft stock and a bigger prospect name coming up, there is inflated perception of what they can do bc of "pedigree"....the proofs in the pudding and after 250-300 NHL games under their belt. They are what they are
- DDM-Coga

very fair points.

As far as the news that Ceci is being protected that's very confusing with Methot being a pillar on this team IMO

If they protect Ceci over Methot or even Claesson, they are phucking idiots.
- sgoodwin

when did Claesson become bobby Orr? The guy had a strong playoffs but Methot plays top pairing against the best players in the world - including against sid and geno in the playoffs

when did Claesson become bobby Orr? The guy had a strong playoffs but Methot plays top pairing against the best players in the world - including against sid and geno in the playoffs
- AlfieisKing

Agreed, I don't get the love for Claeson either. He is not as good as Ceci, and probably never will be.

Really? The guy has played a couple dozen games and he already seems way better than Ceci to me. Solid, reliable and with better hockey IQ. He's a better defenseman IMO.

Agreed, I don't get the love for Claeson either. He is not as good as Ceci, and probably never will be.
- SensnRBs

Bob McKenzie- Ottawa was not able to make a trade for Ceci, Phaneuf or Methot

Bob McKenzie- Ottawa was not able to make a trade for Ceci, Phaneuf or Methot
- JACMAN

If that's true, then the 'move' is to protect Karlsson, Phaneuf, and Ceci, and start work on a deal with Vegas to protect Methot. The issue there is whether or not the Senators have another unprotected player that Vegas would have substantial interest in.

As for Claesson, I think he played far better than Wideman in the playoffs, but how consistent he can be over the course of a full season would be the real measure. That said, Karlsson seems comfortable enough playing with him, and if Methot is taken he seems like maybe the most likely player to get a shot at the LHD spot beside Karlsson... unless they go UFA shopping, which isn't out of the question given that losing Methot would free up $4.9M x 2yrs.

If that's true, then the 'move' is to protect Karlsson, Phaneuf, and Ceci, and start work on a deal with Vegas to protect Methot. The issue there is whether or not the Senators have another unprotected player that Vegas would have substantial interest in.

As for Claesson, I think he played far better than Wideman in the playoffs, but how consistent he can be over the course of a full season would be the real measure. That said, Karlsson seems comfortable enough playing with him, and if Methot is taken he seems like maybe the most likely player to get a shot at the LHD spot beside Karlsson... unless they go UFA shopping, which isn't out of the question given that losing Methot would free up $4.9M x 2yrs.
- khawk

I think EK needs a more physical partner, not another smallish D-man..... that's why Methot works so well.

Anyone who thinks it makes a difference who Karlsson plays with need to wake up. He's the best d-man in the game. It doesn't matter.

Way too much worry about this protection business. Vegas will be picking a team and the cap is still very much in play. Not sure why Vegas would want to take a one dimensional d-man making 4.9 mill for the next two years whose really only successful due to playing with Karlsson.

I guess it depends on how the build the team, but adding Methot would be a "get to the cap floor" move, which is entirely possible.

Bottom line, Methot is a great character guy and decent d-man. However, he's a dime a dozen d-man who has a pretty hefty salary. Easily replaceable.

Anyone who thinks it makes a difference who Karlsson plays with need to wake up. He's the best d-man in the game. It doesn't matter.

Way too much worry about this protection business. Vegas will be picking a team and the cap is still very much in play. Not sure why Vegas would want to take a one dimensional d-man making 4.9 mill for the next two years whose really only successful due to playing with Karlsson.

I guess it depends on how the build the team, but adding Methot would be a "get to the cap floor" move, which is entirely possible.

Bottom line, Methot is a great character guy and decent d-man. However, he's a dime a dozen d-man who has a pretty hefty salary. Easily replaceable.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

When in the heck did this actually become an opinion people share? Methot is solid for this team and I can't believe people think he is easily replaceable. He is the best defensive D-man on the team and is actually a perfect fit on this team. CECI was the one that should have been traded and Dorion and staff should have had a plan along time ago - maybe discussions with Sakic and others.

I for one will be very pissed if Methot is gone - and only bringing in another solid d-man - like a Markov, though I doubt he's available - would do it.

If they protect Ceci over Methot or even Claesson, they are phucking idiots.
- sgoodwin

Well their ya go! Ceci for Landy it would be Chabot + but like some of you said it's not happening!moving along! do you guys think that the Sens are sending their 1st to Vegas? Cause apparently Vegas has three 1st rounders already one is their's one is Columbus and that leaves one more! Anaheim and Minnesota don't have one and aside from the Sens I can only think of Nashville maybe? What do you guys think is that a good move?you'll still lose a player! But the 1st would be to protect Methot I guess?

Anyone who thinks it makes a difference who Karlsson plays with need to wake up. He's the best d-man in the game. It doesn't matter.

Way too much worry about this protection business. Vegas will be picking a team and the cap is still very much in play. Not sure why Vegas would want to take a one dimensional d-man making 4.9 mill for the next two years whose really only successful due to playing with Karlsson.

I guess it depends on how the build the team, but adding Methot would be a "get to the cap floor" move, which is entirely possible.

Bottom line, Methot is a great character guy and decent d-man. However, he's a dime a dozen d-man who has a pretty hefty salary. Easily replaceable.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Also do you want to piss Karlsson off? Their best friends!

But the 1st would be to protect Methot I guess?
- MR.Hunter

Right now it def better not be a first. I seriously can't understand why some on this board think loosing Methot won't be a big deal - do they even watch hockey?

Also do you want to piss Karlsson off? Their best friends!
- MR.Hunter

Exactly.
I'd have to think they protect Methot at all costs with trades. There's no way you can come back next year - UNLESS - you go out and sign a guy like Kulikov for 1 year or spend A LOT of $ and bring in Alzner.

Right now it def better not be a first. I seriously can't understand why some on this board think loosing Methot won't be a big deal - do they even watch hockey?
Exactly.
I'd have to think they protect Methot at all costs with trades. There's no way you can come back next year - UNLESS - you go out and sign a guy like Kulikov for 1 year or spend A LOT of $ and bring in Alzner.
- AlfieisKing

Everyone values late first rounders way too much. Here are picks 25-30 from 2007-2014

The below represent about 20% that became regular/semi-regulars. From these, how many would actually be a huge upgrade to the Sens today. The reality is that 80% of these players will be Jim O'Brien and Matt Puempel. So yes, giving these to keep Methot, and maybe also asking Vegas to ignore Claesson, is a small price to pay

2007 - David Perron
2008 - Tyler Ennis, John Carlson
2009 - Kyle Palmieri
2010 - Kuznetsov, Coyle, Nelson
2011 - Rakell
2012 - Pearson
2013 - Dano
2014 - Pastrnak

Also do you want to piss Karlsson off? Their best friends!
- MR.Hunter

They're defensive partners....not best friends. More importantly, they're both professionals who understand that it's a business where some times tough decisions need to be made. Most importantly it's a Moot discussion because why would OF want a 32 year old, 5 mil dman who doesn't put up points? The scouts watch the games, they know that meth plays with the best dman in the nhl and that absolutely inflates his value